Neutrality wrote:Airbornewolf wrote:
just out of my curiousity, this is not the first time the suggestion was raised about using an form of guided ammunition in eastern ukraine. besides the fact of GPS/Glonass guided ammunition accuracy is far worse than advertised today's artillery units use different methods to get their accuracy. why are some of you so horny for these types of high-tech weapons?.
I'm no military expert so I'm just speculating with what I know. Quick elimination of large pockets of manpower for one. Bigger damage is another one. How about using mini drones with laser acquisition or is that not possible for artillery rounds yet?
you are thinking in expensive, not available weaponry. no offense of course, like i stated in another thread i dont mind elaborating on the reality in the field. large pockets of manpower?. sure but you either end up with option 1 i mentioned, being to saturate an target area. or 2 illegal weaponry like cluster warheads or WP (white phosphorous).
for your question, yes there are drones available that can laze an target area to get an grid reference for an arty strike. but again its too expensive and elaborate and its way easier to just send an guy there in an recon team to instead laze the target, get an grid reference and radio it back to an artillery unit. the chances of an handful of guys being detected is way smaller than some drone flying overhead.
if the NAF wants to whipe an unit off the map, and they know where they are... they hit them in the early hours like 0300 in the morning. most of them will be asleep anyway and put more rounds trough their artillery weaponry than they normally would, its what the millitary calls saturating an target. basically as soon the shell ejects out of the gun ram an fresh round in with the propellant charge and fire the gun again. after their fire mission the NAF fire unit should immediately relocate to avoid counter-fire on their position. what does not get killed or destroyed by NAF fire will be rendered inoperable by either shrapnell damage or for personel blast damage or trauma of the extreme shelling. dont forget Arty fire has an profound psychological effect next to its physical ones.
saturation fire even happens today within NATO, last time the Dutch used such tactics was in Afghanistan 2007, when Chora was in danger of being overun and kept the PZH2000 in saturation fire to neutralise anything that came near the FOB Chora.