The Situation in the Ukraine. #11

kvs wrote:

cracker wrote:"12 000 russian army troops in support of separatists" - white house.




so the US finally went full mental retards... no shame anymore. Well... anything will be tried now anyway, there are no limits anymore.

This kind of dog crap usually came from Ukr "authorities", left untouched by "serious" US / EU representatives... Only balts and PL reported these kind of jokes... now, USA too.

This is US 1984 style newspeak for 12,000 volunteers.   I can see there being this many since there were 5,000 last summer.

I don't see the US and NATO bitching about volunteers fighting in Syria or previously in Libya.

Also, I don't recall NATO bitching at the KLA (or UCK) in Kosovo for having thousands of volunteers from Albania.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:well it even looks like Janes Defence are giving some praise to Russia. Russian seem to be doing a good job (and they are) in Ukraine


http://www.janes.com/article/49469/update-russia-s-hybrid-war-in-ukraine-is-working?utm_campaign=%5bPMP%5d_PC5308_J360%204.3.15_KV_Deployment&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua&elqaid=11848&elqat=1&elqTrackId=4493fdb8d087439c84f080b445bc9df1

Janes is growing more disappointing by the minute. Instead of just focusing on military technology, do they really need get involved in to politics?

Zivo wrote:"Russian EW, communications and other units central to their military operations are typically placed adjacent to kindergartens, hospitals or apartment buildings so that Ukrainian units are unable to launch any strikes against them without causing unacceptable and horrific collateral casualties."

Yeah, I'm going to need to see proof of that claim. Clear satellite images will be adequate...... *crickets*

Implementation of Minsk Agreements a condition for IMF credits--Lagarde

3/4/2015

Largarde: IMF credits to Kiev depend on implementing of the Minsk Agreement.

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

The IMF Executive Director Christine Lagarde made this statement during an interview on the MSNBC TV channel. According to Lagarde, financial aid to Kiev will depend on the stability of situation in Eastern Ukraine.

Lagarde also said that Ukraine is right now in a serious economic crisis which is affecting both the country’s economy and budget, to the point of putting it on the edge of default.

“The government is trying to improve the situation through external borrowing. The IMF opened a two-year credit line for Ukraine with up to $17.5 billion available. The overall financing of Ukraine by IMF and other sources may reach $40 billion,” underscored Lagarde.

The IMF Board of Directors is expected to approve the new Ukraine aid packet on March 11.

Lagarde also said that the crisis in Eastern Ukraine is seriously delaying economic reforms.

“European politicians are in agreement that the only way to resolve the crisis in Ukraine is through the Minsk Agreement. The meeting of Russian, Ukrainian, French, and German leaders in Minsk on February 12 resulted in a set of measures which include a ceasefire starting on February 15, followed by a withdrawal of heavy weapons and the establishment of a security zone.”

J.Hawk's Comment: Lagarde is no doubt honest about her desire to avoid further fighting. After all, if Kiev defaults, it's IMF's money on the line, after all. It's another question what Kiev's priorities are. It seems unlikely that there will be any fighting prior to the next IMF tranche. However, after March 11 all bets are off. Zakharchenko did warn of a likelihood of escalation in February-April time-frame, and it may well be that the current calm is simply motivated by the need to get the money from the IMF, then resume fighting. Western leaders are already making statements to the effect that any violation of Minsk Agreements would result in new sanctions against Russia. Are these statements motivated by the obvious weakness of Kiev's military forces and by concern that Novorossia might want to exploit that weakness, or diplomatic and ideological preparation for the next Kiev provocation?

Zivo wrote:"Russian EW, communications and other units central to their military operations are typically placed adjacent to kindergartens, hospitals or apartment buildings so that Ukrainian units are unable to launch any strikes against them without causing unacceptable and horrific collateral casualties."

Yeah, I'm going to need to see proof of that claim. Clear satellite images will be adequate...... *crickets*

Lothar von Trotha wrote:Thinkin' (dreaming) what if that US batallion gets captured. Maybe exchanging it for equipment or some territorial gains would be a good option? That would require more determined RU stance - much more balls and determination.

Hisroyalhighness wrote:Good idea and where are the clear satellite pictures of massive Russian armor crossing the border the White House keeps mentioning? Are they going to be released some time this century?

Zivo wrote:"Russian EW, communications and other units central to their military operations are typically placed adjacent to kindergartens, hospitals or apartment buildings so that Ukrainian units are unable to launch any strikes against them without causing unacceptable and horrific collateral casualties."

Yeah, I'm going to need to see proof of that claim. Clear satellite images will be adequate...... *crickets*

magnumcromagnon wrote:Ukraine: 'No land to oligarchs. All land to the people, 'demand farmers outside the Rada

par far wrote:US is gearing to arms the Ukrainian fascist regime with lethal arms and a offensive may come in mid summer(according to the expert).

http://rt.com/op-edge/238029-us-lethal-aid-supply-ukraine/

Alexander Vershbow, the second most senior figure in NATO as its deputy secretary general, took the opportunity of a conference in Riga Thursday to claim that large numbers of Russian soldiers are dying in fighting in Eastern Ukraine.

higurashihougi wrote:Oh shit, "large number"

http://www.lsm.lv/en/article/politics/large-number-of-russian-troops-dying-in-ukraine-says-vershbow.a120436/

Alexander Vershbow, the second most senior figure in NATO as its deputy secretary general, took the opportunity of a conference in Riga Thursday to claim that large numbers of Russian soldiers are dying in fighting in Eastern Ukraine.

#UK delivers £850k worth of non-lethal aid to #Ukraine. Includes helmets, laptops, NV goggles, etc.

#Ukrainian government is planning for a 2015 GDP drop of -11.9% and inflation of 42.8%. #Peremoga

Hisroyalhighness wrote:

#Ukrainian government is planning for a 2015 GDP drop of -11.9% and inflation of 42.8%. #Peremoga

https://twitter.com/sbobkov/status/573534282590781441