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    Post  victor1985 Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:05 pm

    What do you think about substances for brain improvemenr? Mean improve scientists brain
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    Post  George1 Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:13 pm

    victor1985 wrote:What do you think about substances for brain improvemenr? Mean improve scientists brain

    what this has to do with russian army? Smile
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:15 pm

    victor1985 wrote:What do you think about substances for brain improvemenr? Mean improve scientists brain

    Books and critical thinking is already the best brain improvement and i hope they stay away from brains it would be abused anyway.
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    Post  victor1985 Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:52 am

    George1 wrote:
    victor1985 wrote:What do you think about substances for brain improvemenr? Mean improve scientists brain

    what this has to do with russian army? Smile
    Well we can improven brain for scientists that work for the army. I mean logical part of brain.
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    Post  victor1985 Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:34 am

    Also would be good for economists from government and banks. And for economists of army who will calculate best proportions for number of rockets/money/caracteristics and qualyties of rockets and weapons. After all this substances will be good for everyone including mayrs/government staff
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    Post  victor1985 Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:37 am

    Also not forget the fact that computers can be made more intelligent than humans and could provide best weapons and economic solutions
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:54 am

    I enjoyed the movie "Limitless", and am looking forward to "Lucy" or what ever it is called, but I think most experiments with brain improving chemicals mainly dealt with stuff like LSD etc to make soldiers more aggressive and less effected by death and violence and generally were unpredictable and therefore considered dangerous and unreliable.
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    Post  victor1985 Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:31 pm

    Well i said that because LSD or others were used for agresivity. For sure psychyatrists evolved whit the research upon brain improve since more logic is not dangerous. Is about stronger signals bwtween neurons. But what about a mecanism that would accelerate evolusion?
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    Post  victor1985 Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:33 am

    also mounted to brain chips can be done?
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:09 pm

    victor1985 wrote:also mounted to brain chips can  be done?

    If you mounted your brain on a chip.. what would be left to distinquish you from a chimpanzee?
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    Post  collegeboy16 Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:19 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    victor1985 wrote:also mounted to brain chips can  be done?

    If you mounted your brain on a chip.. what would be left to distinquish you from a chimpanzee?
    maybe he is referring to the other way around... would be nice to have some exabyte rom to store all my collection and then view them anytime. Twisted Evil
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:40 pm

    I have seen research where blind people have rudimentary CCD chip sensors to "see" light that are attached to the optic fibre transmitting information directly to the human brain... the person has to learn to interpret the electrical signals but in a sense they are able to sense brightness and darkness.

    the brain is just a bio mass that communicates with chemical electric signals much like a computer chip so it is not impossible.

    The main problem is that the capacity of the human brain is orders of magnitude more complex than any computer chip today.
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    Post  victor1985 Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:51 pm

    well yes but in few time the power of computer chips will override human brain. then a chip can be mounted oh human brains to improve human brain. in not even neccesary to be more than human. an an simple 15% from human brain chip would increase power of calculation. also supercomputers are today as powerfull as a human brain. did someone tried connect a human brain to a supercomputer?
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    Post  victor1985 Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:53 pm

    and the problem is which nation make for the first time connection and made a improve in human brain. that nation would have first the best weapons
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:21 am

    The main problem would be communication... with the CCD chips they sent electrical signals to the persons brain... that person had to learn what those signals meant which took time and practise.

    Eventually they could "see" light and dark and obstructions or bright flashes, but they couldn't see the way we do.

    Compared to a human brain even a super computer is limited... limited in terms of available connections and speed. For calculations your brain will be slower than a super computer but even just basic things like imagination is beyond most computers.

    equally defining a language for both to communicate would be difficult.

    there are lots of barriers and problems before we start downloading our memories to Youtube, or storing backups to storage media... or like on the Matrix being able to learn things by uploading programmes.

    what if improving the human brain makes that person want to stop war rather than produce new more capable weapons?
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    Post  victor1985 Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:56 pm

    that person would be alone and others would search for reasons......in a way stopping the war is a bad ideea. every day we have a war. whit others....
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    Post  Manov Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:14 am

    http://www.darpa.mil/newsevents/releases/2014/08/07.aspx


    here, The famous DARPA brain chip in development.

    there is a very interesting documentary in youtube where they mention it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2wO1CY7OcA

    If you are familiar with the manga GUNMM by Yukito Kishiro, you know what they are talking about


    Transhumanism is the future, and a really scary one
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    Post  victor1985 Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:05 pm

    So what if someone could be a lot smart so unpredictible? Just have him under control and permanent surveillance and threath him so he reveal important things. Have him like a hostage...........
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    Post  victor1985 Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:00 pm

    Look at "throught the wormhole" and see episode whit brain hack. By monitorizing alfa and teta waves in brain can be said when is perfect moment to do something.
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    Post  Regular Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:42 pm

    Some drugs make Your brain work better for a while. You are more focused and all. Stimulants and etc.
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:03 pm

    Regular wrote:Some drugs make Your brain work better for a while. You are more focused and all. Stimulants and etc.
    Usually for those who already have some problems with focusing, not good or practical for a healthy brain.
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    Post  victor1985 Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:08 pm

    There are some tehniques that do improve performance. Simple tehniques. Like one i saw on youtube. A device made by someone that i dont remember create electricity in the brain and stimulate brain. Also i saw others that do same kind sort of tehniques.
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    Post  kvs Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:08 pm



    There are limitations to brain improvement.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:51 am


    I thought about the cause of genius . If we studied and found common elements in the life of geniuses , then we can find , what causes it . Through relaxation and allowing my mind to wonder freely , without fear of ridicule or strong emotion , I have surprised myself ! Coming up with some good ideas .

    I first come up with the idea , then find that others have come up with it too ! I find the references later ! When I post or write . You need a relaxed and quiet environment . Free from stress . Plus a continuous effort , lasting many years . Then you get a genius ! Children can easily be made into genius , in the right environment .

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:17 am

    nomadski wrote:
    I thought about the cause of genius . If we studied and found common elements in the life of geniuses , then we can find , what causes it . Through relaxation and allowing my mind to wonder freely , without fear of ridicule or strong emotion , I have surprised myself ! Coming up with some good ideas .

    I first come up with the idea , then find that others have come up with it too ! I find the references later ! When I post or write . You need a relaxed and quiet environment . Free from stress . Plus a continuous effort , lasting many years . Then you get a genius ! Children can easily be made into genius , in the right environment .

    Geniuses are born. There are environmental factors which may make a genius not realize their potential like being born in extreme poverty but most of them don't exist in the developed world

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