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    Cuba in the Cross fire

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    Post  miketheterrible 12/07/21, 05:12 am

    Hahahahahahaha

    I know Americans are stupid, but this is just sad.
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    Post  Kiko 12/07/21, 06:38 am

    Russia 'follows the development' of Cuban situation and prompts as 'unacceptable' any intent on destabilising it from the outside.

    https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/397569-rusia-sigue-desarrollo-situacion-cuba.

    Also:

    Russia monitors situation in Cuba, considers outside interference inadmissible— diplomat.

    Earlier, it was reported that riots had occurred in several of the republic’s cities, with a number of shops being destroyed.

    MOSCOW, July 12. /TASS/. Russia is keeping a close eye on the situation in Cuba and believes that outside interference is inadmissible, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said in a commentary on Monday.

    "We are closely following the situation in Cuba and around it," she stressed. "We consider outside interference in the domestic affairs of a sovereign state and other destructive actions that would encourage the destabilization of the situation on the island unacceptable."

    According to Zakharova, the Cuban authorities "are taking all necessary measures to restore public order in the interests of the country’s citizens within the framework of the national Constitution and the current domestic legislation."

    Cuba’s state television earlier reported that riots had occurred in several of the republic’s cities, with a number of shops being destroyed. Earlier, mass demonstrations began in the city of San Antonio de los Banos located 24 kilometers south of Havana. President Miguel Diaz-Canel urged the defenders of the Cuban Revolution to take to the streets to prevent provocations against the authorities.

    The president noted that "the Yankees who have always supported the blockade <...> are seeking humanitarian intervention" and also encouraging campaigns aimed at spreading the idea that the government allegedly cannot control the challenging epidemiological situation.

    https://tass.com/politics/1313053.


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    Post  kvs 12/07/21, 07:01 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Hahahahahahaha

    I know Americans are stupid, but this is just sad.

    It is stupid but it works on the people who take pride in not caring about the rest of the world. You just need to throw
    out some hyperbole about human rights and "think of the children" and most Americans are keen to support humanitarian
    bombing and the slaughter of innocents.

    The self-righteous have been scum since the dawn of history.

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    Post  miketheterrible 12/07/21, 07:03 am

    Most countries wouldn't approve of it anyway. Plus whatever sympathy some Cubans have to US would be gone as well.
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter 12/07/21, 10:56 am

    Kiko wrote:Miami Mayor Calls to Send Troops to 'Protect' Cubans From a 'Bloodbath’ as Protests Sweep The Island, 12.07.2021.

    Thousands of citizens of Cuba, which has been under a US embargo for almost 60 years, preventing the arrival of humanitarian aid to the island nation during the pandemic, took to the streets on Sunday in protests driven by food shortages, high prices, COVID-19 restrictions and a lethargic vaccination rollout.

    "Cubans are worthy and ready to rule themselves without tyranny. It can end today and it must end today. The implications of this moment can mean freedom for millions of people in the hemisphere, from Nicaraguans and Venezuelans and so many more," the mayor said at a news conference.

    Suarez attended a demonstration in the Little Havana section of Miami, where hundreds had gathered outside the Cuban Versailles restaurant.

    As images have surfaced showing thousands of Cubans flooding the streets in protest against poor economic conditions and the government's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, Miami Mayor Francis Suarez called for international intervention led by the United States "to protect the Cuban people from a bloodbath."

    The Cuban regime’s military police are shooting at unarmed Cuban protestors fighting for freedom. 60 years of communism, cruelty, & oppression cannot last any longer! We are imploring the USA to take action as we peacefully demonstrate on the streets of Miami #PATRIAYVIDA 🇨🇺 pic.twitter.com/oXy24RjwZW

    — Mayor Francis Suarez (@FrancisSuarez) July 11, 2021

    I have never felt such raw emotion from the people of Miami desperate for intervention by the government and by themselves on behalf of Cuba. This is the moment for freedom in Cuba. IT CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER! pic.twitter.com/gM1SjOZ222

    — Mayor Francis Suarez (@FrancisSuarez) July 12, 2021

    Three US Representatives - Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart (FL-25), Carlos A. Gimenez (FL-26), and Congresswoman Maria Elvira Salazar (FL-27) - released a joint statement in solidarity with the protests in Cuba.

    “Now more than ever, the United States and the international community must support the Cuban people in their struggle for freedom," they wrote in their statement.

    Amid a resurgence of coronavirus cases associated with the arrival of the Delta variant of the virus, with health authorities reporting a record 6,923 cases and 47 deaths on Sunday, the island republic is suffering from the crippling fallout from US sanctions imposed by the administration of former president Donald Trump.

    People have also been brought out into the streets over a worrying lack of food, medicine and other basic products.

    Crowds in the streets of #Cuba chanting "freedom" #SOSCuba pic.twitter.com/kJDDVuEITP

    — Newsistaan (@newsistaan) July 11, 2021

    ​Thousands of Cubans, from Havana to Santiago, turned out for the Sunday protests, with the images going viral on social media.

    We have NEVER seen a day like today in #Cuba

    62 years of misery, repression & lies boiling over into organic, grassroots protests in over 32 cities #SOSCuba #PatriaYVida pic.twitter.com/U5L5Zzb5mg

    — Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) July 12, 2021

    A spate of broadcasts on social media showed hundreds of people marching through the streets of San Antonio de los Baños, Guira de Melena and Alquízar, all in the province of Artemisa, near Havana.

    Diaz Canel addressed the island on Sunday in a televised speech to denounce what he called a “smear campaign” unleashed by the US, while urging Cubans to remain calm.

    "We will not let anti-revolutionary mercenaries who are beholden to the American empire to create instability. There will be a revolutionary response," he said in a televised address to the nation.

    Referring to protests reportedly taking place in several cities, he added:

    “We are calling on all Communists to take to the streets where these provocations are being staged and oppose them."

    The United States imposed trade restrictions on Cuba in the late 1950s in response to the communist revolution. Ex-US President Barack Obama took some minor steps towards normalizing relations with its neighbor, however the arrival of the Trump administration reversed many of those.

    After President Joe Biden, who vowed to continue Obama's policies, entered the White House, the Cuban Foreign Ministry had high hopes for restoring relations between the two countries, abruptly cut off under the Donald Trump administration.

    The latter had returned Cuba to the US list of state-supporters of terrorism.

    However, Biden administration's review of the US policy toward Cuba has not progressed over the past five months, ostensibly because of its current low priority for the White House, The Washington Post reported in June, citing anonymous sources.

    On June 23, the United States voted against a UN General Assembly resolution condemning the embargo on Cuba that was adopted by the overwhelming majority of 184 other nations. Top Cuban diplomat, Minister of Foreign Affairs Bruno Rodriguez, underscored that political and ideological differences were not an "impediment to a respectful and civilized relationship" with neighbours. Rodriguez slammed the White House for making empty promises and seeing no progress.

    by Svetlana Ekimenko, for Sputniknews.

    https://sputniknews.com/world/202107121083365722-miami-mayor-calls-to-send-troops-to-protect-cubans-from-a-bloodbath-as-protests-sweep-the-island/


    Yeah, this is not going to happen, talk is cheap. He just wants to be re-elected.



















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    Post  Hole 12/07/21, 11:16 am

    Insurrection in Washington but "struggle for freedom" in Havana. Sad

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    Post  Kiko 12/07/21, 11:30 am

    Shameless US Hypocrisy on Cuba, by Finian Cunningham for Sputniknews. 12.07.2021.

    US corporate media are having a field day over public protests in Cuba that are being hailed as a revolt against the island’s communist government.

    The protests are said to have been prompted by economic hardship which has been aggravated by the Covid-19 pandemic. Scarcely mentioned by the Western media is the proverbial elephant in the room. That is, Cuba has endured nearly 60 years of unremitting economic sanctions imposed on it by the US.

    Can we please just focus on that vital background to the story and get our heads around the fact that the American government is a criminally hostile and lawless entity. The Caribbean country has been throttled and strangulated for over half a century by over a dozen American presidents whose malign conduct is no better than that of crime bosses.

    Under President Trump, the economic blockade was tightened with new vindictive measures to hit the Cuban economy and population of 11 million. The new Biden administration has done nothing to reverse those harsher sanctions.

    President Biden this week has the gall to say “the United States stands with the people” of Cuba in their protests. What Biden really means to say is the US is standing on the necks of Cubans.

    Every year, the vast majority of countries at the United Nations general assembly make an appeal for Washington to lift its callous embargo on Cuba. Every year, Washington vetos that international call.

    There is no legal justification for American sanctions on Cuba. It is an act of sheer spite because Cuba dared to have a socialist revolution in 1959 when it kicked out a US-backed dictator and American businesses that were exploiting the people to the hilt. Cuba then became the “threat of a good example” to the rest of the hemisphere also plagued by American imperialism and predation. It had to be punished and destroyed so that others would not repeat the rejection of Uncle Sam and his crime syndicate.

    Amazingly, Cuba and its revolution have survived against impossible odds and brought its people many successes in social development. It also inspired other Latin American nations to follow its path despite Washington’s unforgiving barbarity. America likewise sanctions Venezuela and Nicaragua because of their socialist governments, thereby making social misery and suffering in those countries as well.

    It cannot be overstated. American economic sanctions are criminal. They are nothing short of economic warfare and aimed deliberately at making life unbearable for the population in order to destabilize the government and incite revolt.

    When US media blithely mention “sanctions” on Cuba that is a monstrous feat of hypocrisy. Washington should be unequivocally condemned for crimes against humanity and aggression towards a peaceful nation.

    The media silence in the face of this appalling barbarity really demonstrates the cowardice and propaganda function of the US corporate media.

    The Cuban people have been subjected to a siege of terror for six decades. That state-sponsored terrorism by the United States has involved attempted military invasion (the Bay of Pigs in 1961), the threat of nuclear annihilation (1962 missile crisis), countless assassination plots against the late leader Fidel Castro and other government figures, biological warfare to destroy the island’s agriculture, as well as mass murder as in the CIA bombing of a Cuban civilian airliner in 1976 which killed 73 people.

    The psychopathic US rulers have ratcheted up economic warfare against the people of Cuba during a worldwide pandemic, limiting Cuba’s access to medicines and other vital imports.

    Not only that but there are grounds to believe that the relatively small protests that have erupted across Cuba have been instigated by Washington and its paid-for “opposition figures”.

    It has all the hallmarks of a “color revolution” orchestrated by US intelligence and the ever-pliant news media who are scripting a “pro-democracy” uprising.

    However, such American media claims should be disdained with contempt. Pathetically, the corporate-controlled media have never stood up during 60 years to tell the truth about the American government and its criminal covert war on the Cuban people. Whatever they “report” now about Cuba should be dismissed as yet more distortion and fabrication in the service of Uncle Sam.

    https://sputniknews.com/columnists/202107121083370185-shameless-us-hypocrisy-on-cuba/

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    Post  kvs 12/07/21, 11:44 am

    As noted by miketheterrible, the number of demonstrators is small. If there was so much discontent against the "regime", then Cuba would
    have undergone what happened in the 1950s. Recall that Castro was not installed but rose in a real revolution. America had the chance
    to engage with the revolutionary government but was too bitter about losing control of its colony. This prompted Castro to move into
    the Soviet camp for support.

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    Post  miketheterrible 12/07/21, 12:04 pm

    kvs wrote:As noted by miketheterrible, the number of demonstrators is small.   If there was so much discontent against the "regime", then Cuba would
    have undergone what happened in the 1950s.   Recall that Castro was not installed but rose in a real revolution.   America had the chance
    to engage with the revolutionary government but was too bitter about losing control of its colony.   This prompted Castro to move into
    the Soviet camp for support.


    It was rather pathetically small, much like Navalny's crew.

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    Post  nomadski 12/07/21, 11:29 pm

    So who claimed that there was shooting by government against protesters ? I knew there was something fishy with this news. Covid related demonstrations are worldwide and not just Cuba. Yet no call for regime overthrow by American politicians in those parts!

    If you are under sanctions like Iran, then you organise economy accordingly. Stop dependant imports. I remember in the old days in Iran, yogurt was sold in reusable ceramic pots. No need to import plastics or have injection moulding machines to manufacture plastic containers. Uses existing technology.

    I heard on news about sanctions in Cuba, effect on population and shortage of goods. Those goods are for example :

    ( 1 )  Disposable needles for Covid injection. Then use old fashioned reusable needles
            that you boil afterwards. A thousands needles will serve 100,000 people.

    ( 2 )  Toilet paper shortages. Use water instead.

    ( 3)  Oil shortage. Import from Iran and allow use of port for Iran warship! A big
            bargaining point to get Guantanamo back and lift sanctions !

    ( 4)  Food shortage. Feed good quality food to people instead of fat American tourist
           gringo. Dollars won't buy you much if you are sanctioned anyway. Import food from
            Iran and export sugar to Iran. An agricultural exchange programme.
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    Post  GarryB 13/07/21, 12:09 am

    Cuba should make notes of all this propaganda bullshit coming from the US and start pumping it out the next time a black person gets shot by a cop and there are BLM protests... or maybe Cuba should demand a recount for the US 2020 elections because the numbers don't seem to add up... Twisted Evil

    I remember in the old days in Iran, yogurt was sold in reusable ceramic pots. No need to import plastics or have injection moulding machines to manufacture plastic containers. Uses existing technology.

    Milk and drinks came in glass bottles too that could be cleaned and reused multiple times and then smashed up and melted and made into bottles again...

    The very idea of having bottled water was absurd... now such things are everywhere... ridiculous.
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    Post  higurashihougi 13/07/21, 02:50 am

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter 13/07/21, 05:31 am

    Cubans Denounce ‘Misery’ in Biggest Protests in Decades
    The rallies, widely viewed as astonishing for a country that limits dissent, were set off by economic crises worsened by the pandemic.
    MIAMI — Shouting “Freedom” and other anti-government slogans, thousands of Cubans took to the streets in cities around the country on Sunday to protest food and medicine shortages, in a remarkable eruption of discontent not seen in nearly 30 years.

    Thousands of people marched through San Antonio de los Baños, southwest of Havana, with videos streaming live on Facebook for nearly an hour before they suddenly disappeared. As the afternoon wore on, other videos appeared from demonstrations elsewhere, including Palma Soriano, in the country’s southeast. Hundreds of people also gathered in Havana, where a heavy police presence preceded their arrival.

    “The people are dying of hunger!” one woman shouted during a protest filmed in the province of Artemisa, in the island’s west. “Our children are dying of hunger!”

    One clip circulating on Twitter showed protesters overturning a police car in Cardenas, 90 miles east of Havana. Another video showed people looting from one of the much-detested government-run stores, which sell wildly overpriced items in currencies most Cubans do not possess.

    In a country known for repressive crackdowns on dissent, the rallies were widely viewed as astonishing. Activists and analysts called it the first time that so many people had openly protested against the Communist government since the so-called Maleconazo uprising, which exploded in the summer of 1994 into a huge wave of Cubans leaving the country by sea.

    Carolina Barrero, a Cuban activist, went even further. “It is the most massive popular demonstration to protest the government that we have experienced in Cuba since ’59,” she said by text message, referring to the year Fidel Castro took power. She called the public outpouring on Sunday “spontaneous, frontal and forceful.”

    “What has happened is enormous,” she added.

    The protests were set off by a dire economic crisis in Cuba, where the coronavirus pandemic has cut off crucial tourism dollars. People now spend hours in line each day to buy basic food items. Many have been unable to work because restaurants and other businesses have remained on lockdown for months.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/11/world/americas/cuba-crisis-protests.html


    Earlier on Sunday, Mr. Díaz-Canel posted photographs of nurses and other medical personnel arriving by bus in Matanzas. But it was too late: The months of pent-up frustration exploded.

    “They should be calling for peace and dialogue, not blood,” Andy Ruiz, a protester in Havana, said in an interview. “What I saw today was people seeing freedom for the first time.”

    Adonis Milán, a theater director in Havana, said the extreme conditions became too much to bear.

    “This is no longer a question of freedom of expression; it’s a question of hunger,” Mr. Milán said. “People are hitting the street. They are asking for an end to this government, to one-party rule, to repression and the misery we have lived through for 60 years.”

    A few hours later, he called back, sobbing, saying that the internet had been cut off, that anti-riot squads were in the streets and that a number of artists had been arrested after they demanded airtime on national television.

    “I managed to escape,” he said.
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    Post  higurashihougi 13/07/21, 05:49 am

    https://baotintuc.vn/the-gioi/cong-dong-quoc-te-phan-doi-am-muu-gay-bat-on-cuba-keu-goi-go-bo-cam-van-la-habana-20210713065959677.htm

    International community express support for Cuba.

    Vietnam's representative in United Nation, Mr. Đặng Đình Quý, heavily condemned the U.S. embargo on Cuba. The unjust embargo severely violate the UN Charter and caused severe hardship to Cuban people. Vietnam demanded that the U.S. must stop all the embargoes towards Cuba, Cuba should be free to participate in all legal economic relationship in the world.

    Spokewoman of Russian Foreign Ministry, Ms. Maria Zakharova, condemned all intervention of foreign powers against a sovereign country, and condemn the sabotage attempts against Cuba.

    El Salvador's FMLN condemned reactionary "SOS Cuba movement" whose aim only is to sabotage the Cuban revolution.

    Colombian Communist Party call the international solidarity to assist and defend Cuba. "Cuba is dignity.", the Party said.

    The Argentine Marxist, Atilio Borón, condemned the foreign powers who aimed to sabotage and regime-change in Cuba as "crime against humanity". "Cuba is not alone.", he said.

    Bolivian President, Luis Arce, expressed his support for the Cuban people in the struggle against the saboteurs. He stated that Cuban's internal affairs should be solved by Cuban only, not by the foreign power who imposed the embargo for 60 years. Mr. Acre said that as Cuban gains more scientific and medical achievements, the attacks from foreign media is intensifying.

    Mexican President, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, opposed the interventions against Cuba, and proposed humanitarian aid for the country. Mr. Obrador also demanded the end of embargo against Cuba, and stated that there is an "unusual" media campaign against Cuba, originated from someone who opposed the policy of Cuban government.

    Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega called for solidarity with Cuba and express that the progressive humanity will move foward regardless.

    Venezuela's PSUV express its support for Cuba. PSUV said that Cuban people have contributed much to the humanity and the humanity must protect them. Venezuela praised the leadership of President Miguel Diaz-Canel during the challenging period of Cuba.
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    Post  Kiko 13/07/21, 06:30 am

    Cuba copes, by Israel Shamir for Russian RT News. 13.07.2021.

    Cuba has gone through - or is going through - a dire crisis, comparable to that which fell to its lot in 1994 after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The island was hit by a wave of COVID-19, a new mutation that has raised the number of sick and dead to unprecedented heights. Previous waves had little impact on Cuba, but this time the virus recovered in full, despite the active vaccination with its own vaccine and the developed health care system. Tourism has practically disappeared, and US sanctions do not allow trade. Under these conditions, a wave of unrest, caused by the American fifth column, and immediately received the support of Washington, passed through Cuba. Demonstrations of protest quickly turned into pogroms.

    Finally, the end of "red" Cuba has come, they happily talked in Florida, where many immigrants from the Island of Freedom live. But it was not there. President of the Republic of Cuba Miguel Diaz-Canel addressed the people and urged people to take to the streets, not sit at home. The street cannot be surrendered to the thugs, he said. Indeed, tens of thousands of supporters of Cuban independence took to the streets and recaptured them. The rebellious youth fled. This is how the problem of “what to do with the“ Maidan ”in Cuba was solved.

    Today, protests continue, although they have significantly diminished in size and scope. The President and the Minister of Foreign Affairs speak to the people, telling in every detail what, how and why happened on the island. In these conditions of publicity, we learn details that would otherwise be unknown.

    There is an acute economic crisis in Cuba. The reasons are sanctions and COVID-19. COVID-19 has cut off tourism, a major source of currency. And the sanctions cut off Cuba's ability to buy and sell through the international banking system. You can't get fuel because the US is blocking both Venezuela, the main fuel supplier, and Iran, which also helped. When there is no fuel, there is no electricity, when there is no opportunity to buy food, the people are starving. Hundreds of sanctions have been imposed on Cuba. The latest package of sanctions was imposed by President Trump, who wanted the support of Cuban exiles and the mafia, Cuba's main and ardent enemies. The United States added Cuba to the list of countries supporting terror, although, of course, they do not think about any terror in Havana - just as in Russia they do not think about hacker attacks on American meat processing plants.

    President Biden also added sanctions. Cuba sends teams of its doctors to the countries of Latin America and Africa - this is how they help the peoples of friendly countries and earn currency. The Biden administration equated medical travel to ... the slave trade (!) And added new restrictions. Even syringes and needles for vaccination are prohibited from being imported into Cuba. In these conditions, infectious scabies has spread, and the United States is not allowed to bring drugs.

    After the country was cornered, put on starvation rations and the lights were turned off, the United States demanded: open a humanitarian corridor for the free import of humanitarian aid to the population. Help - without government involvement. Give us a free port and airport, they say, we will sail, arrive and feed. This is a traditional American trick. They tried it both in Venezuela and in Yugoslavia. The humanitarian aid came in conjunction with American marines, PMC fighters, specialists in inciting civil wars and organizing coups.

    This technique - first to bring down the economy, bring the country to starvation, and then send humanitarian aid as a cover for the landing - was also used by the United States in Vietnam in the 60s of the last century.

    Then, as we know today from the Pentagon Papers, the US military decided, instead of bombing the cities of Hanoi and Haiphong, to bomb dams to disrupt rice production and cause widespread famine. Millions of Vietnamese will starve to death, Pentagon specialists designed, and we, the United States, will deliver food and save the survivors. So the whole world will praise us, and the Vietnamese will humble themselves.

    For me, a young man who grew up in an anti-Soviet and pro-Western environment, these documents became a means of sobering up. I read for the first time how the military - not just some Nazis, but cultured Americans - are planning to kill millions of civilians in order to earn propaganda capital to save the survivors. Then the Soviet Union, its air defense, its combat aircraft were able to thwart the American plan to kill millions of Vietnamese. But now there is no Soviet Union. And the strength of Russia, although her heart is in the right place and she supports Cuba, are limited.

    We need to remember that the United States is treating Cuba the way it would like to deal with Russia. They are stifling Russia with sanctions. Only Russia is much larger, it is not easy to strangle it. Things are getting easier with Cuba. Since the famous Cuban Missile Crisis, Cuba has been under sanctions. Although all the countries of the world at the UN General Assemblies from year to year demand that the United States lift sanctions against Cuba and give the Cuban people a peaceful life, the United States refuses to comply with these UN resolutions. (Only Israel has consistently supported the United States in the Cuban vote, and the United States has responded by blocking resolutions condemning the Israeli blockade and occupation of Palestine.)

    It cannot be ruled out that the outbreak of COVID-19 on the island, where it has so far been fairly painless and where its vaccines have been developed, was caused by a biological attack, which was undoubtedly the outbreak of COVID-19 in the Iranian city of Qom at the end of last winter. Then many leaders of the Iranian republic fell ill and died. At that time, COVID-19 was not met anywhere except Wuhan, and the United States and Israel, and then waged an active secret war against Iran.

    Vaccination is actively underway in Cuba, but it takes time - the vaccine must be produced in large volumes, electricity is needed to store it, syringes are needed for vaccinations, and all this has become a shortage under the conditions of the American blockade.

    We can see from Cuba what the Americans were planning for Russia , if Russia did not have its own vaccine - their fifth column would have raised protests in Moscow demanding the opening of airports for American aid and their life-saving means. But Cuba, like Russia, is holding on. As Russia coped with riots on Bolotnaya in 2012 - a rally on Poklonnaya, so now Cuba is coping with rioters - a popular appeal, demonstrations in defense of Cuban independence and, if necessary, baseball bats in the hands of free Cubans.

    And the organizer of the nightmare, the United States, stands up for the protesters and calls for support and assistance. But Cubans are in no hurry to surrender their newfound freedom in battle and return to the state of a floating casino and a brothel near Miami, the property of the Meyer Lansky mafia. There are no protests in Cuba, the Cuban president said, there are riots raised by American agents. And agents of the same mafia, we add.

    https://russian.rt.com/opinion/884907-shamir-kuba-oppoziciya-protest
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    Post  kvs 13/07/21, 06:48 am

    Daniel Ortega is the prime example of the bankruptcy and criminality of US foreign policy. Recall all the effort to use the Contras
    during the 1980s to topple the Sandanista "regime". Supposedly the Contras were fighting for freedom. BS. They were US sponsored
    militants who engaged in massive human rights abuse and war crimes. Recall the US installed regime in El Salvador and the slaughter
    of over 700 villagers in El Mozote. That is the "freedom" that the US pushes. While the Contras had to self-isolate from the rest
    of Nicaraguan society, showing just how "popular" they were, Ortega is still around after winning at the ballot box.

    Cuba may not be a formal democracy, but formal democracies are a racket where your rights are relative. If you think you have
    rights in the USA and Canada, then have fun dealing with "mistakes" by the IRS or CRA. They can fcuk you over and do not have
    to give any explanations. Most people in the west think that their day to day routines are "freedom". People in the USSR lived
    that way too. Nobody in the USA and Canada controls the decision making process at the top. You are deluded if you think that
    you do. Voting is a placebo (*). So if the "non-democratic" system is making your day to day life better, then it is superior than
    the "democratic" system that has you scrounging in garbage dumps for food thrown out by the 1% that run the show on behalf of
    foreign colonial masters.

    (*) Take the PC totalitarian agenda for example. How is this fringe agenda now the mainstream for the political system in the USA
    and especially Canada? It is clear that the voters never pushed this agenda, it was instead pushed on the voters.



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    Post  lyle6 13/07/21, 06:49 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Since Russia's food program is going so well and they are overproducing now of everything from pork to grains, why not start a massive donation program to Cuba along with China?

    Great way to gain browny points.

    But I figure Russians are more interested in money than good will.
    I'd be wary of simply donating foodstuffs, if just thinking ahead on second order effects. Cuban farmers would still have to sell their produce, no?
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    Post  kvs 13/07/21, 07:11 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Since Russia's food program is going so well and they are overproducing now of everything from pork to grains, why not start a massive donation program to Cuba along with China?

    Great way to gain browny points.

    But I figure Russians are more interested in money than good will.
    I'd be wary of simply donating foodstuffs, if just thinking ahead on second order effects. Cuban farmers would still have to sell their produce, no?

    I agree. Sending over food is a band aid if it is not part of trade. Cuba has more than enough food. These demonstrators are organized
    by US handlers and make claims that are given to them on an action sheet. Cuba adapted rather effectively after 1990 when the cheap
    oil from the USSR dried up. It had to change over from large mechanized agriculture to small scale growing. This is not as bad as it would
    appear, small growing operations can be more productive. In USSR, it was village plots that were supplying most of the vegetables in
    spite of all the large mechanized farms.

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    Post  miketheterrible 13/07/21, 07:21 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Since Russia's food program is going so well and they are overproducing now of everything from pork to grains, why not start a massive donation program to Cuba along with China?

    Great way to gain browny points.

    But I figure Russians are more interested in money than good will.
    I'd be wary of simply donating foodstuffs, if just thinking ahead on second order effects. Cuban farmers would still have to sell their produce, no?

    To be honest, I have zero idea about Cuba's economy, let alone agriculture industry.
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter 13/07/21, 08:35 am

    I've always thought the embargo is terrible. So was ending Wet foot and dry foot.

    but the Castros and Cuban government is not guilt / blame free.

    I read this book. Brother, it was horrific being in prison in Cuba for being a dissenter.

    Review of Armando Valladares’s Against all hope. A memoir of life in Castro’s gulag. Translated by Andrew Hurley. San Francisco, CA: Encounter Books, 2001. 426 pp.
    By
    Rafael E. Saumell, Ph.D.
    Rafael E. Saumell is an Associate Professor of Spanish
    at Sam Houston State University, Huntsville, TX. He is a Cuban and a former
    political prisoner.
    https://www.shsu.edu/~fol_res/valladares.html
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    Post  kvs 13/07/21, 09:14 am

    The real gulag is Haiti. I hear no complaints about it from all the usual "theoreticians".

    So they are not credible in their criticism.

    People assume that the standard of living in western "democracies" is intrinsic and locally generated. That is fiction.
    These countries have spent centuries colonizing the planet and mercantilist leeching. The western standard of living
    is trickle down. If the spice flow dries up, which it is slowly doing, then the jig is up.

    The Cuban malcontents are all dreaming of easy living just by moving to the US or bringing the US order to Cuba.
    These people are utterly delusional. If they want a better life, how about achieving it through hard work and effort
    instead of welfare bumming on streets as a rent-a-crowd.

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    Post  higurashihougi 13/07/21, 09:55 am

    Actually there are challenges in the security food and consumption goods in Cuba, but the reason is because of the sabotage and embargo from the U.S., and the natural and historical conditions in Cuba which make food sustainable and diverse agriculture is a tough challenge for the country.

    The U.S. criminal sabotage and embargo deprives the material and technology supplies which is critical for any agricultural restructure and re-innovation for Cuba, and deprives the cash supply needed for Cuba to purchase necessary food and commodities. Covid-19 also negatively affected tourism which is important for Cuban economy.

    In short the U.S. sabotage and embargo prevent Cuba from selling what they have to buy what they need.

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    Post  Hole 13/07/21, 12:59 pm

    This "demonstrators" didn´t look as if they were starving. Such cubans are only found in Miami.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter 13/07/21, 05:01 pm

    Police patrol Havana in large numbers after rare protests
    By ANDREA RODRIGUEZ
    yesterday
    About 2 1/2 hours into the march, some protesters pulled up cobblestones and threw them at police, at which point officers began arresting people and the marchers dispersed. AP journalists counted at least 20 people who were taken away in police cars or by individuals in civilian clothes.

    Although many people tried to take out their cellphones and broadcast the protest live, Cuban authorities shut down internet service throughout the afternoon Sunday.

    On Monday, Cuban authorities were blocking Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram and Telegram, said Alp Toker, director of Netblocks, a London-based internet monitoring firm.

    “This does seem to be a response to social media-fueled protest,” he said. Twitter did not appear to be blocked, though Toker noted Cuba has the ability to cut it off if it wants to.

    https://apnews.com/article/cuba-protests-3772cca0298adac7ce8947ff3aac48c8

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