Russian Launch Vehicles and their Spacecraft: Thoughts & News
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Specialists of JSC TsNIIMash and JSC RCC Progress (part of the Roscosmos State Corporation) have successfully completed the stage of vibration-strength tests of a prototype of the oxidizer tank of the first stage of the bench block of the promising Soyuz-5 launch vehicle. The tests were carried out for cases of transportation and for modes simulating the operation of the propulsion system.
During the tests, the design solutions adopted in the design of the bench block of the first stage of the Soyuz-5 launch vehicle were experimentally confirmed, the dynamic model was verified, the dynamic characteristics of the prototype and individual installations of units and devices were determined. In the future, the oxidizer tank is subject to fault detection and reassembly into a prototype designed for cold and fire bench tests at the Federal State Enterprise "Research Center of the RCP"
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Russia should just pull out of Kazakhstan launch sites altogether. I am not that convinced Soyuz 5 as a rocket needs to exist in the first place either. It does nothing that Angara cannot do. The main reason for using Soyuz 5 on Kazakhstan is that it more or less is compatible with the Zenit so it can basically use the existing launch site in Baikonur for that.Big_Gazza wrote:Feckless useless Kazakhs dissappoint once more....
Once Russia gets the Angara pad at Vostochny working they won't need the Baikonur launch site for Proton anymore. They will have launch sites for Soyuz and Angara at roughly equivalent latitude inside Russia. Only thing left in Baikonur will be manned space launch capabilities. Which Russia could/should have already made available at the existing pads at Vostochny but they did not do for supposed "money savings".
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This sounds like treason, perhaps it is time for Russia to tighten the grip on thier peripheral lands.
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with the consequences.
I think the whole latitude argument for rocket launches is BS in this case. If you need the rotational speed of the Earth boost, then
launch from the tropics. But Russia can build rockets that are big enough to be launched from the poles and can afford all the CH4,
kerosene and whatnot to fuel them.
The Russian government has serious issues with its pandering to foreign states. It was doing this with the EU and cheap natural gas.
It is doing the same thing with the Kazakh 3rd world toilet that thinks it is the cat's meow of countries. (The inverse relationship between
arrogance and actual level is a robust feature). Do not sink any more resources into this toilet. Let them get crumbs from the US
and pals like Kosovo and Ukraine. Every precious crumb will taste like ambrosia to these losers. But mega-investment and real economic
development prospects in cooperation with Russia tastes really bad and is demeaning to them.
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Meh Russia has to play the dumb games that turkish types play. Obnoxious. If Russia pulled out of Kazakhstan then you would see Turkey weasel its way further in. As if you couldn't tell I am not a fan of turks and their goofy pan turkish dreams.
It already did, and putin cucked out on it. Basically almost entire central asia is licking erdogans balls and has almost gone full grey wolf.
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All it takes is for Russia and Iran to close the Caspian Sea and there go all the fantasies of Turkish, British and Central Asian elites bought up by them
But in peace time there are rules and limitations to what you can do so the game has to be played and the Central Asian states will certainly continue to play their own games, although never going as far as to cross any lines.
Russia and China should simply isolate Kazakshtan from any sort of big infrastructure and other plans moving forward. Let them depend on the West and Turkey. There are already moves towards this.
No tech transfers, no high-speed railroads, no gas pipelines, no natural resource extraction contracts awarded, etc... Simply put Russia and China build everything between only their two territories, or through Mongolia at most.
As for a blockade or anything abrasive like that -it's a non-starter as Russia itself is dependent on Kazakhstan for access to the rest of Central Asia, as well as for the functioning of the Eurasian Economic Union and the movement of goods, labour and so on. This is why Russia is just taking the sanctions compliance from Kazakhstan in stride. It's preferable to cutting ties and then getting far more problems.
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SAINT PETERSBURG, July 28. /TASS/. The first launch of the Amur-LNG promising methane carrier rocket with a returnable stage may take place in 2028-2030. This was announced to TASS by Daniil Subbotin, Deputy General Director of the Progress Rocket and Space Center (RCC) (part of Roscosmos) for development.
"We are now focusing on the area of 2028-2030," Subbotin said on the sidelines of the Russia-Africa summit, answering a question when the first launch of Amur-LNG is scheduled.
According to him, now the technical design of the rocket is underway, then the development of design documentation and testing is planned, after which the flight. “Meanwhile, at the stage of technical design, we will carry out certain tests in order to reduce the time for manufacturing the first flight model,” the deputy general director explained.
At the moment, a group of specialists led by representatives of Roskosmos, which is conducting reconnaissance, has left for the Vostochny cosmodrome. During the week, they will have to look at the possible placement of infrastructure for the return stage. "The act of the commission, most likely, will recommend further development, further study of certain zones," Subbotin said, adding that it was about choosing the main and reserve sites.
In October 2020, Roskosmos and RCC Progress signed a contract for the development of a preliminary design of a space rocket complex with the first Russian reusable methane rocket Amur. The rocket will receive a returnable first stage and will be launched from the Vostochny Cosmodrome in the Amur Region. On March 10, 2023, the state corporation announced the continuation of the development of the Amur-SPG reusable methane launch vehicle, the technical design is planned until 2024.
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First launch of Soyuz-5 rocket due Dec 24, 2025
SAMARA, August 17. /TASS/. The first launch of the Soyuz-5 rocket, which is being developed by the Progress space rocket center, is scheduled for December 24, 2025, Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin was told at the Progress center in Samara.
Mishustin was shown the assembly and testing shop of the Soyuz-5 launch vehicle and briefed on the center’s development prospects. According to the factsheets presented to the head of government, the creation of the Soyuz-5 launch vehicle should be completed on November 25, 2025. By August the assembly of equipment at the Baikonur Cosmodrome should be completed, and the launch is scheduled for December 24, 2025.
Earlier, the Progress center’s deputy CEO for development, Daniil Subbotin, told TASS that the rocket would be ready for launch from the Baikonur Cosmodrome at the end of 2025.
Soyuz-5 is Russia’s new generation medium-class launch vehicle. It is being developed for putting to unmanned spacecraft into near-Earth orbits.
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owais.usmani wrote:https://tass.com/science/1661733
First launch of Soyuz-5 rocket due Dec 24, 2025
SAMARA, August 17. /TASS/. The first launch of the Soyuz-5 rocket, which is being developed by the Progress space rocket center, is scheduled for December 24, 2025, Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin was told at the Progress center in Samara.
Mishustin was shown the assembly and testing shop of the Soyuz-5 launch vehicle and briefed on the center’s development prospects. According to the factsheets presented to the head of government, the creation of the Soyuz-5 launch vehicle should be completed on November 25, 2025. By August the assembly of equipment at the Baikonur Cosmodrome should be completed, and the launch is scheduled for December 24, 2025.
Earlier, the Progress center’s deputy CEO for development, Daniil Subbotin, told TASS that the rocket would be ready for launch from the Baikonur Cosmodrome at the end of 2025.
Soyuz-5 is Russia’s new generation medium-class launch vehicle. It is being developed for putting to unmanned spacecraft into near-Earth orbits.
The big question is whether the Baikonour launch facility will be ready. With the kazakhs busy with acting like (pre-Maidan) Ukrainians I'm not overly optimistic.
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idiocy. By now it is crystal clear that the ex-USSR "republics" aside from Belorus are limitrophe toilets with insane inferiority complexes
that lead to rabid hate.
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kvs wrote:If Baikonur is the only venue for the launch of the Soyuz-5, then once again Roscosmos/Russian government is engaged in terminal
idiocy. By now it is crystal clear that the ex-USSR "republics" aside from Belorus are limitrophe toilets with insane inferiority complexes
that lead to rabid hate.
It is really hard to understand Putin's government. Why they want to risk an important space mission. They sure know that Kazakhstan is a ticking bomb.
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And also I am getting the idea that the other soyuz variants and angara can do everything that soyuz 5 can do.
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The Angara A3 does not exist and it makes more sense for a Zenit replacement to fit this slot (around 17 tons to LEO).
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How many more years until soyuz 5 flies?
Well it makes sense. Already a spaceport there and it helps unite Russia with Kazakhstan.
And also I am getting the idea that the other soyuz variants and angara can do everything that soyuz 5 can do.
Did yuzhmash help "unite" the ukraine with russia?
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Soyuz-5 should have been designed to be compatible for launch in both Baikonur (Bayterek?) and Vostochny. Designing a rocket that can only be launched outside of Russian territory is a bit naive.
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At the Progress Rocket and Space Center (part of the Roscosmos State Corporation), an experimental fuel tank for the first stage of the Soyuz-5 launch vehicle has been fully assembled, intended for dynamic testing at the Central Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering.
This morning it was sent from Samara to Korolev by road.
The promising two-stage medium-class launch vehicle Soyuz-5 is being developed to support launches of automatic spacecraft into various low-Earth orbits, including using upper stages.
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Good to see it materializing and not being vapourware. I think Russia needs to pick up the pace with these projects. The 1990s collapse imposed a low advancement
regime which had its own inertia. There is no reason to spend decades putting out such systems. This also includes trying to save money by using old facilities such
as Baikonur. The Soyuz-5 should have a launch pad at Vostochny as a priority project.
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