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    Post  ahmedfire Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:34 pm

    Yes , 1L122–1E is is using L-band with 40km range , 2-E is using UHF with 80 km range .

    It's supposed the antenna radiated the signal has little power so that it could be secretly installed close to the enemy positions.

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    Post  Isos Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:02 pm

    That is a nice radar to cover your country with. 100 of them could be deploy all over and give you detection ability in all your airspace even in mountainous area.

    If one is destroyed you can just reposition another one to cover its area.

    It's better than having 1 or 2 expensive bigger radar with 600km range that have plenty of dead zones.

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    Post  Hole Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:54 pm

    The vehicle is part of the Barnaul-T command and control system for the army air defence. In a few years every unit with Buk, Tor, Sosna, Tunguska and so on will have such vehicles.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:46 pm

    0:30 a rare up-close view of Verba in use. Almost like a FPS videogame.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:59 am

    Interesting that the training included the SA-13 launcher getting hit and having to be towed away... such realism is rare in western exercises that I have seen.

    The new SA-13s have new EO sensors that see in visible and IR frequencies and look rather interesting without being too expensive.

    The Verba launcher has an interesting metal structure mounted on it.

    Looks like an IFF system perhaps... or is it just part of the Barnaul cueing system to warn the operator about where to look for threats detected by the IADS.

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:15 am

    Its a classic Russian fire pocket. The MANPADs team lie prone in the forward dugouts hiding their Verbas while the mobile detachment of Strela-10s and Zu-23s open fire on the enemy. With the target sufficiently distracted the MANPADs team would then brandish their Verbas and open fire, skewering the enemy in the crossfire.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu May 13, 2021 7:45 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:0:30 a rare up-close view of Verba in use. Almost like a FPS videogame.

    Never seen an SA-13 with what looked like one strela missile and two manpads, can some correct me wasn't so clear is was the just the mount for more strela missiles. I guess wouldn't be a bad idea having a mix of missiles makes it harder for the enemy to counter it, and the strela is a heavier warhead which could be useful against armoured aircraft/Heli. Latest version of strela 5kg warhead(older version 3kg) Vs verba 1.5kg.

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    Post  GarryB Fri May 14, 2021 5:47 am

    For the exercise they obviously only planned to launch one Strela-10 missile so only one launch tube/box was fitted to the SA-13 vehicle.

    The targets seemed to be engaged with 23mm cannon and MANPADS for the most part.

    I have seen a South African upgrade of the SA-13 from the 1990s that could carry SA-9 and SA-13 missiles... the former being smaller and lighter and cheaper but also less capable, so a mix of missiles was carried operationally and the operator could decide on which missile to launch depending on the threat.

    A simple cruise missile target does not require a newer higher performance missile, while a more difficult target or better protected target might require a more capable missile with a better warhead.

    Certainly the SA-13 vehicle gives the missile operator some armour protection as well as a wind screen and optical and electronic sensors to detect targets.

    I would think being connected to the air defence network should also allow other sensors and systems to provide queueing information to make things easier too.

    Apart from the ranging radar between the launch tubes to reduce missile waste when firing at targets out of range, there are also electronic sensor boxes on either side of the crew position that detect signals like terrain following radar height finding systems that aircraft and missiles use to fly low while avoiding terrain, which means you can detect an aircraft or missile coming and be pointed in the required direction well before it gets in range to engage and of course it is passive so they wont know you are there.

    They generally make their missiles in enormous numbers so they probably have quite a few SA-9 missiles in stock. They do use SA-9 and SA-8 type missiles for target practise as target missiles with their original warheads removed and a simple autopilot fitted to be able to fly specific flight profiles to simulate specific targets when needed.

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