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    Russia - Venezuela Strategic relation

    GarryB
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    Post  GarryB Fri May 13, 2022 12:35 pm

    What would Russia do with old model obsolete F-16s?

    I would say Venezuela should gift them to Iran, but why would Iran want them?

    Whoever you give them to they wont last long because they need parts and support and countries who have never operated them before would struggle to keep a useful number operational.

    You could take a fleet of 50 or 100 of them and then use them up and cannibalise the aircraft to keep one or two flying for a while but it would not be very useful.

    I would say for Venezuela... offering complete inspections of them to Russia would make sense but they are not new planes so they might take a look, but most likely it would be more value for Venezuela to strip them all down for materials and parts... if they have any spare parts or parts on aircraft not yet expired they could sell them to Turkey or Egypt or Pakistan jsut on the quiet for a much more reasonable price than what the US sells them for... they operated them long enough to know which parts need replacing and what costs the most.

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    Post  lancelot Fri May 13, 2022 4:16 pm

    andalusia wrote:This seems like a good suggestion in this article about Venezuela sending their F 16 to Russia for advanced aircraft.  
    https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/should-venezuela-transfer-its-f-16s-to-russia-exchanging-u-s-jets-for-migs-would-benefit-both-caracas-and-its-moscow
    Uncle Sam wouldn't allow that. Why not just sell them to Egypt, Indonesia, or some country like that?

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    Post  GarryB Sat May 14, 2022 10:17 am

    Uncle Sam wouldn't allow that. Why not just sell them to Egypt, Indonesia, or some country like that?

    Uncle Sam is butt hurt over Venezuela and would not let them sell them to the USAF even if the USAF needed them badly.

    They won't be able to openly sell them to anyone because that would mean Venezuela getting money and they don't want Russia to sell gas to Europe because Russia gets money... why would they let Venezuela get money from selling their planes?

    New Zealand is supposed to be a US ally but they stopped us from selling our Skyhawks because they had upgrades in them that were also used on F-16s.

    It was nothing to do with keeping anything secret... they were just butt hurt because they expected us to return the Skyhawks and buy F-16s instead...

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