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    Post  elconquistador Mon May 03, 2021 6:43 am

    Looks like the Gilets Jaunes are back

    https://mobile.twitter.com/maroc_online/status/1388432096922947584

    https://mobile.twitter.com/maroc_online/status/1388484337746710533

    Also: half the French population echos the sentiment in the letter and thinks that the country is heading towards civil war

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/poll-majority-of-french-agree-with-military-generals-that-the-country-is-heading-towards-civil-war/
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    Post  elconquistador Mon May 03, 2021 10:23 am

    GarryB wrote:Instead of campaigning on Frexit she should be doing what the UK should have done and demanded some reform and fundamental changes within the EU structure that actually make it democratic and more in line with the supposed values of Europe and less influenced by foreign centres of government like the US or Israel or whatever...

    I would think most British people were actually sick of the bullshit from Brussels instructing them in areas they should be free to make their own choices in... of course this would be exacerbated by their pathetic rag newspaper media who would make up BS lies just to upset people and sell papers... like EU laws requiring Bananas to be bend or straight or some such silly thing.

    What they need is a real top down discussion of problems and issues for all members, but they spend too much time writing themselves into James Bond movie scripts with Novachok and Putin.. or perhaps America says no they can't...

    Every election Le Pen is touted as a possibility, but each time she fails... I suspect there is just too many civil servants and 1%ers that are against her...

    Same with that guy Corbyn in the UK... if you can't beat Boris you clearly are not pushing the correct buttons.

    Le Pen has dropped Frexit or even leaving the euro already. She's even moving to the left on issues like gay marriage and artificial insemination. As for the EU's structure, you can't change it as it literally modelled after the USSR and a very top heavy organisation in power dynamics. If you'd want to change it you'd have to blow it up and rebuild it.

    Le Pen is very much like Russia's Navalny, an eternal loser who is not exactly controlled opposition - just incapable of mounting any serious resistance to the globalists in a one on one versus Macron. She is unprofessional and appears weak during debates. Definitely not like her father.

    Serious candidates like François Fillon, who the establishment fear much more than Le Pen, were professionally kalt-gestelt during the last election. Something like this might happen again with Asselineau or de Villiers who are both socially conservative and have a rather similar platform to FN

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    Post  kvs Mon May 03, 2021 2:22 pm

    Reforming the EU is a losing proposition. There should never have been a political union in the first place and the associated bureaucracy
    that serves to feed itself rather than to actually be of use. Europe was never going to be a union state since it is composed of very
    different nations. A customs union to remove trade barriers made sense. Everything after that was a con job.

    Every country in the EU should EU-xit. And get back to the only legitimate agreement there was, i.e. the EEC.

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    Post  lancelot Mon May 03, 2021 3:30 pm

    I think they should have gone for a confederation instead of a federation.
    The federal government is dysfunctional to the extreme.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 03, 2021 5:04 pm

    elconquistador wrote:Looks like the Gilets Jaunes are back

    https://mobile.twitter.com/maroc_online/status/1388432096922947584

    https://mobile.twitter.com/maroc_online/status/1388484337746710533

    Also: half the French population echos the sentiment in the letter and thinks that the country is heading towards civil war

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/poll-majority-of-french-agree-with-military-generals-that-the-country-is-heading-towards-civil-war/

    Buddy, I am American and even I know Alex Jones is out of his dam mind, don't cite info wars for information.
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    Post  elconquistador Mon May 03, 2021 5:45 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    elconquistador wrote:Looks like the Gilets Jaunes are back

    https://mobile.twitter.com/maroc_online/status/1388432096922947584

    https://mobile.twitter.com/maroc_online/status/1388484337746710533

    Also: half the French population echos the sentiment in the letter and thinks that the country is heading towards civil war

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/poll-majority-of-french-agree-with-military-generals-that-the-country-is-heading-towards-civil-war/

    Buddy, I am American and even I know Alex Jones is out of his dam mind, don't cite info wars for information.

    From the article

    A survey by Harris Interactive found that 58% of respondents “support the words of the soldiers,” reports Valeurs.

    A clear majority – 84% – said violence was increasing in society and 73% thought the country was disintegrating. Almost three quarters think the “anti-racism” movement is having the opposite impact and making race relations worse.

    Almost half (49%) also think that the military should be sent in to occupy problem areas, “which would act on its own to restore order.”

    Only one in three respondents said the signatories should be punished, despite the minister in charge of the armed forces, Florence Parly, indicating that active duty members would face sanction.

    “Two immutable principles guide the action of members of the military with regard to politics: neutrality and loyalty,” tweeted Parly.

    Seriously though, why is this obvious troll allowed to post?

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 03, 2021 5:47 pm

    A poll lol.

    Polls are about as reliable as dog shit.

    France ain't entering no civil war and the military ain't going to coup.
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    Post  elconquistador Mon May 03, 2021 5:55 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:A poll lol.

    Polls are about as reliable as dog shit.

    France ain't entering no civil war and the military ain't going to coup.

    Why are you talking like a negro?
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 03, 2021 6:02 pm

    elconquistador wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:A poll lol.

    Polls are about as reliable as dog shit.

    France ain't entering no civil war and the military ain't going to coup.

    Why are you talking like a negro?

    Why are you bringing up race?, oh okay I get trying to change the topic.

    I can see what you are trying to do and I am not having any of that, My words are true so I'll leave it at that.

    I am not black btw.
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    Post  elconquistador Mon May 03, 2021 6:10 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Why are you bringing up race?, oh okay I get trying to change the topic.

    I can see what you are trying to do and I am not having any of that, My words are true so I'll leave it at that.

    I am not black btw.

    Why does race and your appropriation of black culture and speech patterns make you feel so uncomfortable?

    Racist.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 03, 2021 6:13 pm

    elconquistador wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Why are you bringing up race?, oh okay I get trying to change the topic.

    I can see what you are trying to do and I am not having any of that, My words are true so I'll leave it at that.

    I am not black btw.

    Why does race and your appropriation of black culture and speech patterns make you feel so uncomfortable?

    Racist.

    So you get called out for your BS and pull out a race card.

    Wooooow truly pathetic.

    Btw Negro is a racist term, so before you try to paint me as racist you should use the right words first.

    Edit: As I Said I ain't dealing with the crap you are trying to pull, if you respond attempting to keep that going. I will get the admin in here to deal with it end of story.
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    Post  elconquistador Mon May 03, 2021 6:46 pm

    How much of a retard do you have to be to not comprehend that you are being taken for a troll-ride?

    Similarly, how much of a retard do you have to be to not comprehend that InfoWars is getting its data from French sources

    And how much of a retard do you have to be to not get that any such info as the 50+ percent stuff comes by default from a poll?

    You thought they did a nationwide plebiscite or went door to door census style?

    Good Lord are you a thick mofo.

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    So you get called out for your BS and pull out a race card.

    Wooooow truly pathetic.

    Btw Negro is a racist term, so before you try to paint me as racist you should use the right words first.

    Edit: As I Said I ain't dealing with the crap you are trying to pull, if you respond attempting to keep that going. I will get the admin in here to deal with it end of story.

    You are doing it again. These aggression towards BIPOC are deeply rooted in your intergenerational colonialist mindset. Do not use racialised language as a white male. Do not appropriate the highly cultured Ebonics speech patterns. Do not call the authorities on a non-White member of this forum.

    Check your privilege.



    Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 03, 2021 6:54 pm

    1. Polls are not reliable and never have been, they only ever take a very small sample from a very small audience and even the very questions are usually set up to get specific answers. Only a fool takes polls as fact.

    I never said how they collected the poll data, you are now putting words in my mouth so we are done with this conversation, you are welcome to disagree with me and act like an ignorant little shit you are but I don't talk with people who like to try and insert words into my mouth.

    2. Troll-ride huh? yeah, I doubt that.

    3. That info wars article is pure shit period, doesn't matter where the sources came from.

    4. Again there will be no civil war or coup and if you want to try and say there will be. Use better information than a "poll" and maybe I'll take it seriously.
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    Post  elconquistador Mon May 03, 2021 7:04 pm

    1. No shit sherlock. You got any more open doors to kick in?

    For your information France has already lived through the early stages of major civil strife and is experiencing a rapid disintegration of its social fabric

    And bytheway, talk of 'civil war' is increasing all over Europe, even in quiet well off countries like the Netherlands and Denmark. Not that I think that these people know what it actually means, but that's in this case irrelevant.

    2. Negro.

    3. Man you didn't even take the time to read the article.

    4. Dude, please. Up until tonight you were under the impression that France was a type of pizza and now you claim to be an expert and insider.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 03, 2021 7:06 pm

    I clearly thought it was a type of shoe.

    btw I did read it and it's all crap.
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    Post  GarryB Tue May 04, 2021 8:31 am

    If you'd want to change it you'd have to blow it up and rebuild it.

    KVS posting after you is right... it is a political system intended to allow all the European countries to collectively tut tut other countries on the planet.... they are all has beens now, but together they could make a powerful political force... except they do as they are told by the US and have no independence at all.

    All the countries of central and south America could join together and they could let Canada join too and be a world bully and actually weld some power but only in their region... Europe isn't even powerful in Europe though...

    Better to stick to economic groups, who respects little boys who do as the US tells them?

    Le Pen is very much like Russia's Navalny, an eternal loser who is not exactly controlled opposition - just incapable of mounting any serious resistance to the globalists in a one on one versus Macron. She is unprofessional and appears weak during debates. Definitely not like her father.

    If she was Navalny we wouldn't even know who she was because she would never get more than 1% interest or attention.

    She seems to be more like Sanders...

    A clear majority – 84% – said violence was increasing in society and 73% thought the country was disintegrating. Almost three quarters think the “anti-racism” movement is having the opposite impact and making race relations worse.

    Almost half (49%) also think that the military should be sent in to occupy problem areas, “which would act on its own to restore order.”

    The west likes to bollock on about democracy and european values, but most people just want law and order and to be able to walk the streets without expecting to get their heads cut off.

    Most people think violence is increasing because they watch the TV news and the TV news is about ratings, not about information.... they won't tell you violent crimes have gone down, they just show video of exciting stuff.

    People marching or kneeling before a sports event does nothing to stop racism.

    Do not call the authorities on a non-White member of this forum.

    Check your privilege.

    I am assuming this is sarcasm.


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    Post  andalusia Fri May 07, 2021 8:28 am

    Wow didn't expect this from France and Britain; I doubt it would escalate:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/gunboats-blockade-threats-u-k-105100664.html
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    Post  kvs Fri May 07, 2021 3:49 pm

    andalusia wrote:Wow didn't expect this from France and Britain; I doubt it would escalate:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/gunboats-blockade-threats-u-k-105100664.html

    Not surprising behaviour from the NATzO hyena pack. The betas attack each other for various reasons while submitting to the
    alpha (USA). There is no happy family singing kumbaya around the camp fire.

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    Post  elconquistador Sat May 08, 2021 8:44 am

    KVS posting after you is right... it is a political system intended to allow all the European countries to collectively tut tut other countries on the planet.... they are all has beens now, but together they could make a powerful political force... except they do as they are told by the US and have no independence at all.

    All the countries of central and south America could join together and they could let Canada join too and be a world bully and actually weld some power but only in their region... Europe isn't even powerful in Europe though...

    Better to stick to economic groups, who respects little boys who do as the US tells them?


    According to the received narrative believed by all mainstream media and academia, the EU and the euro currency are for the protection of the 'European people' (who don't exist) against US imperialism/capitalism. In the real world, the EU is one of the main reasons that the European countries today are americanized dumping grounds for US junk, and that European peoples are losing their culture and becoming consumers of Hollywood/Netflix, MacDonalds etc.

    According to the received narrative believed by all mainstream media and academia, the EU idea was conceived by European idealists after WW2, when Europe was in ruins, to learn the lessons of history, be more united and avoid war etc. In the real world, however, there was already a capitalistic European union before and during WW2, which the US imperialists took over when they won the war, and reshaped it to their advantage.

    As for your assertions that 'together they would be stronger', this is wrong on both theoretical and practical grounds.

    Theoretically because it adheres to Marxist principles on capital and state ie. the economy being the basis and main ethnogenesis factor for peoples. Obviously this is wrong, like so much of their other body of thought is wrong too. Nations emerge due to shared history, culture, language, religion and a sense of belonging. Not because they have x-amount of trade together

    De facto we are not seeing nationalism lessening, we see it rising (eurosceptic parties, Brexit, Trump, Gilets Jaunes). Which is bytheway one of the reasons the globalists pulled off the Covid1984 scamdemic (IFR 0,15) and the subsequent Great Reset - which like all of their projects, will fail miserably.

    As for the statement that a shared front will make them stronger, how exactly? This is the same social engineering meets utopian grand chess game ideas that plague the world too much already. What state/people has benefitted from this globalist Marxist super project?

    The EU has failed in every sense. Unfortunately instead of just disappearing it keeps festering around like a sore in a Herpes sufferer's mouth

    The west likes to bollock on about democracy and european values, but most people just want law and order and to be able to walk the streets without expecting to get their heads cut off.

    Civil liberties are a core facet of the European psyche but are currently being taken away by nonstop fear mongering and artificial crisis after artificial crisis.

    There is a reason why in third world shitholes they just declare martial law and in European countries they have to go to great lengths. Its because of the local populace and judicial framework.

    Most people think violence is increasing because they watch the TV news and the TV news is about ratings, not about information.... they won't tell you violent crimes have gone down, they just show video of exciting stuff.


    Overall unsafety, petty crime, lawlessness, drug related crime and sexual harassment has skyrocketed. Who cares what the official numbers say. You think I or any other person will go to the local police station to report my bike stolen - for the 4th time that year-, or being harassed/ threatened after a night out by some frustrated Ahmed?

    Of course not. Crime rates are 'down' because crime is out of control, and people are quickly losing faith in the authorities. In fact, in some cases the desinterested police will even turn one away when you go to the bureau to file a case, stating that they are understaffed and that it will just take the better part of your afternoon

    The only crime that will get their attention is murder. And thought crimes of course

    Edit: and everything related to racism and sexism of course. If you feel offended because someone called you a negro on the football pitch best believe they'll go after the offender. If you try to get the police to act on after the third burglary of the month in your neighbourhood? Forget about it.
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    Post  kvs Sat May 15, 2021 1:51 pm



    Meanwhile France wags its fingers at Russia. What a retarded joke.


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