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    Russian Military Photos and Videos #1

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Tue May 06, 2014 1:31 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
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    Nice to see a lady with her goods sticking out from the back:

    I like to ask one question.. To experts on this topic..

    What is the relation between 2 vehicles which are now been produced .. I mean in parameter terms..

    One is a SUV type Tigr vehicle  with 4 KBP Tula Kornet missiles ..?  4 kornet launchers on  Road vehicle
    They have optical means of targeting..


    Other one is a tracked vehicle .. Khryzanthsema-S ..they have only 2 launchers from they are produced from different company..

    is their any particular reason that Russia is producing both vehicles which have different means of targeting ??

    But fire power  is less in case of Khrysanthsema-S because it has only 2 launchers then why is it in Production..? exports ..?

    I have given a general explanation in one of my previous posts.

    I have to go to bed now. I may be able to explain a bit more when I have time, but keep in mind that Khrizamtema class and Kornet class are like apples and oranges.

    At a proper military academy they teach the officers about these things.

    I still don't have much time to write, but I can give some pointers in this regard.

    Under the "current" organization of the Russian ground forces,

    1- The man-portable version of Kornet class is designed for and is part of the antitank systems organic to a BMP-based or a BTR-based mechanized infantry battalion. The Tigr-based Kornet is not used by the mechanized groupings at all; it is designed for and is organic, at the brigade level, to the motorized and other groupings.

    2- Khrizantema class is designed for and is part of antitank groupings organic to mechanized infantry brigades.

    2- Germes is designed for and is part of the antitank groupings subordinate to the operational command, and possibly to the strategic command.
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    Post  gaurav Wed May 07, 2014 6:59 am

    Morpheus wrote:
    Germes is designed for and is part of the antitank groupings subordinate to the operational command, and possibly to the strategic command.

    Thks for info about Russina ground forces formations and  application of antitank systems..


    That hermes system is in production.. ? I was of the opinion that only Khrizant and Kornet are in
    serial production?



    May9 parade showing latest much heavier krizantsema with armour plates (BMD-4M ) types ..
    then showing Kornet Tigr vehicle with 8 launchers..!!

    They will show only those vehicles which are now in service or in large numbers..
    They would not show much of the prototypes ..
    Only finalized production types..


    But is there any info about the Hermes platforms..?? Any vehicle which carries it..



    GarrB wrote: How potent a little vehicle could this vehicle be... imagine a support vehicle with small 20km
    range UAVs with laser target marking capability...

    What is this new type of Vehicle.. what is its name? Something related to Nona-S ?
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    Post  GarryB Wed May 07, 2014 8:27 am

    What is this new type of Vehicle.. what is its name? Something related to Nona-S ?

    If there is a UAV support vehicle that operates with this wheeled vehicle then it would likely be designed on the same chassis to match performance and charactaristics and also improve logistics.

    This 6 wheeled vehicle could be Typhoon/Boomerang-10 which is supposed to be in development in 4 and 6 wheeled models.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Wed May 07, 2014 9:01 am

    gaurav wrote:
    Morpheus wrote:Germes is designed for and is part of the antitank groupings subordinate to the operational command, and possibly to the strategic command.

    Thks for info about Russina ground forces formations and  application of antitank systems..


    That hermes system is in production.. ? I was of the opinion that only Khrizant and Kornet are in
    serial production?

    When Russians talk about a system, it is either an old run-of-the-mill system, has already completed production, has been retired, lost the competition to a competitor, is intended to be soon used in a public military campaign, is a decoy, ..., or has been or going to be exported. This applies to everything, even to PAK FA.


    gaurav wrote:May9 parade showing latest much heavier krizantsema with armour plates (BMD-4M ) types ..
    then showing Kornet Tigr vehicle with 8 launchers..!!

    The one that I have seen in the parade practices is based on the BMP-3 chasis. There certainly would been prototypes of the versions for VDV that use the seven road-wheel-per-side variants of the BMD-4 chasis and the BMD-4M chasis (this being the newer one), but I don't know if VDV would necessarily have much use for Krizantema.

    gaurav wrote:They will show only those vehicles which are now in service or in large numbers..
    They would not show much of the prototypes ..
    Only finalized production types..


    But is there any info about the Hermes platforms..?? Any vehicle which carries it..

    There is some info on the net about this question.

    I have also seen a print version of a Germes competitor, which is the variant that was announced first, about 20 years ago. This picture actually showed a VDV variant.
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    Post  GarryB Wed May 07, 2014 10:36 am

    There certainly would been prototypes of the versions for VDV that use the seven road-wheel-per-side variants of the BMD-4 chasis and the BMD-4M chasis (this being the newer one), but I don't know if VDV would necessarily have much use for Krizantema.

    I suspect the VDV would find a very long range ATGM like Kornet-EM to be rather useful because the last thing they want to face is enemy armour and enemy air power.

    The new model Krisantema that is for use by Mi-28NM attack helos likely has improved range and performance characteristics that would make more useful... likely including increased speed and longer effective range.

    The VDV had BMDs that were armed like the BMP-1 and BMP-2 and now BMP-3, but they also had dedicated troop transports with longer chassis and an extra road wheel on each side, that were also used as dedicated ATGM carriers where a roof mounted AT-4/-5 missile launcher was fitted.

    In such a situation having a dedicated ATGM carrier with a longer range missile and better aiming and guidance sensors would make a lot of sense.

    Normally an IFV is very vulnerable when firing at a MBT because ATGMs generally lacked range and resulted in situations where for instance a Bradley IFV would have to stop to fire its TOW at an armoured target less than 4km away... which could be a problem if the target is a T-90 firing back APFSDS rounds at 5 times the speed of sound... especially when that moving T-90 could probably get off 3-4 shots while you are sitting stationary with your missile in flight.

    With the Kornet-EM the target could be 8km away (for the HEAT model missile) and the launch vehicle could continue to move while guiding the missile.

    The Krisantema could also move, though we don't know what range it could achieve in the new model.. perhaps 8-10km or more as it is a heavier larger missile.
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    Post  gaurav Thu May 08, 2014 7:18 pm

    Name of this chopper MI-8 ..?
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    WoW ... from recent military exercises

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    ...There's like one meter of air between the bottom of the Sukhoi fighter and the ground!!!
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    Post  gaurav Fri May 16, 2014 6:45 am


    WoW ... from recent military exercises
    These exercises also had ships and Submarines from Pacific and Northern fleets testing missiles and warheads..
    any info on those pics .. any thing related to that.
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