Thanks for your info Gary. I'm thinking that for a missile to get that high up (from the air or ground) thats difficult. Especially when you consider how thin the air is up there.GarryB wrote:The main goal of the technology in 5th gen fighters is to process information and display it in a simple way to the pilot while hiding non relevant information to prevent information overloadI personally think that the western hud tends to overload the pilot with lots of informations he does not need - i hope Russians will not follow in American footsteps.
They are working on helmet mounted displays both for fighters and helicopters and I suspect they will keep such things secret for the moment.
And even the ones that do have very thin air to work with... this means blast waves of explosions are much less effective so fragmentation is relied on rather more for a kill. The thinner air means after burning up a lot of energy to climb up to those heights the small control surfaces of the missiles will have less bite in the air so will have reduce manouver capability... and also the height gives the pilot more time to react to an attack than if they were lower down.I was also thinking that it would be much harder for a SAM to hit it at that height. Also whether key rival AAMs would have reduced or zero capability when the PAK FA is at max height. I know a fair number of missiles cant function that high up.
At 23km up there are no clouds to hide behind and no weather to be a problem either.
Missiles fast enough to get up to those heights should have some method of manouvering at that height.[One problem with attacking such planes is that normal missiles cant function at that height.
Also keep in mind that a hypersonic bomber with people in it will not be able to turn much... remember that the g forces of a turn greatly increase with speed... a helicopter travelling at 150km/h might not be able to pull more than 2-3gs, while travelling at 1,500km per hour a sudden 90 degree turn might result in 200gs... if it was possible.
The Mig-25 and Mig-31 use a pressure suit... but very few real pressure suits are actually full pressure suits... one of the biggest problems with the Apollo-Soyuz docking was that they each operated at different pressures and that the connector had to stabilise each side so they could connect.Has there ever been a true fighter aircraft that used a full pressure g-suit?
Neither operated at full Earth sea level air pressure as the higher the pressure the stronger the pressure vessel needs to be, which adds weight and complicates breathing gasses used.
BTW nice vids guys...
Add on the fact that the Pak fa is high up, it has extended range with its own missile strikes.
It will be interesting to see how the Pak Fa and 5G Ru planes integrate with other new weaponry over the next 2 decades or so. Drones with AI, lasers, energy weapons, hypersonics. It will be a very different world from the Soviet era. I hope it can be made to pay in peacetime too...