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With 338 meters its longer then the US Ford class carrier.
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With 338 meters its longer then the US Ford class carrier.
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Which will be CATOBAR: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37709/new-images-of-chinas-elusive-catapult-capable-j-15t-carrier-fighter-emerge
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Looks like they painted the hull. Landing deck is still missing.
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Some more pictures of the Type-002 and the Type-075.
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Photos of China's third aircraft carrier under construction at a shipyard in Shanghai
https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2191324.html
https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2191324.html
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walle83 wrote:George1 wrote:[img]https://i.servimg.com/u]
With 338 meters its longer then the US Ford class carrier.
Really ? What a beast.
Its good to see someone facing down the US with a new blue water navy. I was a bit miffed to learn that the Type 003 is not going to be nuclear powered. Why... why why.
They wont be at the same level as the US until they have a nuclear powered carrier. That will be the next one after 003 I guess
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Backman wrote:walle83 wrote:George1 wrote:[img]https://i.servimg.com/u]
With 338 meters its longer then the US Ford class carrier.
Really ? What a beast.
Its good to see someone facing down the US with a new blue water navy. I was a bit miffed to learn that the Type 003 is not going to be nuclear powered. Why... why why.
They wont be at the same level as the US until they have a nuclear powered carrier. That will be the next one after 003 I guess
The type 003 was always supose to be a convential powerd ship. Type 004 is rumored to be Chinas first nuclear powerd cvn.
As for its size its still a bit scatzy. Latest pictures show a waterline lengh of 304-307 meters. Best guess about ~320 meters when its finished.
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So basically 6 carriers for the East fleet and 6 carriers for the South fleet. A total of 12 carriers by the 2030s, not including LHD.
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Tai Hai Chen wrote:So basically 6 carriers for the East fleet and 6 carriers for the South fleet. A total of 12 carriers by the 2030s, not including LHD.
No...
The type 003 wont start trails before 2022, and they wont start building any CVNs before they know all the system on the 003 works. At best the first 004 can be ready by 2025.
And where do you get your sources from? The highest official number of carriers I seen China mention is 6 carriers. And there are even some doubt about that.
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Comparing the Type 003 with the lastest US carrier under constuction, the John F Kennedy.
Moving all the moduls of the 003 together the two carries seems to be about the same size.
Moving all the moduls of the 003 together the two carries seems to be about the same size.
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001 equips North Fleet. 002 equips South Fleet. 003 will go to East Fleet. Chinese policy is each fleet has at least 1 carrier.
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AlexDineley wrote:001 equips North Fleet. 002 equips South Fleet. 003 will go to East Fleet. Chinese policy is each fleet has at least 1 carrier.
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The third aircraft carrier for the PLA Navy under construction at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard of the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group (part of the Shanghai Shipbuilding Company of the Chinese state shipbuilding corporation China Shipbuilding State Corporation - CSSC) in Shanghai. March 10, 2021. Its displacement will be 80,000 tons, and the power plant will be non-nuclear. At the same time, the new ship will be equipped with an electromagnetic catapult, which will significantly expand the possibilities of using carrier-based aircraft.
https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2255017.html
https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2255017.html
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George1 wrote:The third aircraft carrier for the PLA Navy under construction at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard of the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group (part of the Shanghai Shipbuilding Company of the Chinese state shipbuilding corporation China Shipbuilding State Corporation - CSSC) in Shanghai. March 10, 2021. Its displacement will be 80,000 tons, and the power plant will be non-nuclear. At the same time, the new ship will be equipped with an electromagnetic catapult, which will significantly expand the possibilities of using carrier-based aircraft.
All moduls seems to be together now, moving along slowly but surley
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The fourth (Type-004) PLAN carrier probably getting nuclear-power.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3125224/chinese-military-fourth-aircraft-carrier-likely-be-nuclear
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3125224/chinese-military-fourth-aircraft-carrier-likely-be-nuclear
The CSSC said in February 2018 it had started developing a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, which would help the PLA Navy to “realise its strategic transformation and combat-readiness capability in deep waters and open oceans by 2025”
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Inside the aircraft carrier "Shandong" PLA Navy
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Type 002 carrier doc
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The first Type 003 under construction.
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Article from Naval news about the Type-003 carrier.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/04/chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-is-in-same-league-as-us-navys-ford-class/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/04/chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-is-in-same-league-as-us-navys-ford-class/
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[quote="walle83"]Article from Naval news about the Type-003 carrier./quote]
A bit overhyped. Type 003 is conventionally powered. Sure, it has EMALs. To say it is Chinese counterpart of Ford it is not. That would be Type 004.
A bit overhyped. Type 003 is conventionally powered. Sure, it has EMALs. To say it is Chinese counterpart of Ford it is not. That would be Type 004.
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J-15 serial number 72 on TV. Means now there are enough J-15 to fully equip 3 carriers. And Type 003 isn't even launched yet.
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MiddleKingdomer wrote:walle83 wrote:Article from Naval news about the Type-003 carrier./quote]
A bit overhyped. Type 003 is conventionally powered. Sure, it has EMALs. To say it is Chinese counterpart of Ford it is not. That would be Type 004.
Yeah. They originally said that the 003 was going to be nuclear. It will probably have the same power plant as the Shangdong. It was probably the righ decision. If they were dealing with their first nuclear and their first emal , it would probably be like the Ford. Loaded with problems
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Shandong CV-17. The large AESA panels shared with Type 052D and Type 055 can clearly be seen on the island.
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