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andrewlya wrote:Hi guys,
if the USA ever managed to install a pro US government in Russia. What wound it mean for Russia and its people?
Thanks
Hi guys,
if the USA ever managed to install a pro US government in Russia. What wound it mean for Russia and its people?
Thanks
andrewlya wrote:I have heard a theory that the US will want to exploit Russia's natural resources if they put pro US puppet, but would it make Russians poorer?
I am looking at an example of Saudi. The US and Saudi goverment have signed an agreement that Saudi lets the US to take control of theirt oil fields in exchange that they leave their religion alone. The US having the control of the Saudi oil have not made the country poorer, the Arabs are one of the wealthiest people i nthe world. Also, if we take Norway. They have also got pro US goverment and they have also got oil, but people are rich, the country is propesperous. So why would it not be the same for Russia and Russians?
No, I don't.max steel wrote:Coz RUSSIA aint anyone's Bitch. You fear amerikans really ?
If you look at statistics top ten richest nations are all US puppets,regardless of the fact that the US oil companies own their natural resources the people of those countries are most well off in the world.Werewolf wrote:andrewlya wrote:I have heard a theory that the US will want to exploit Russia's natural resources if they put pro US puppet, but would it make Russians poorer?
I am looking at an example of Saudi. The US and Saudi goverment have signed an agreement that Saudi lets the US to take control of theirt oil fields in exchange that they leave their religion alone. The US having the control of the Saudi oil have not made the country poorer, the Arabs are one of the wealthiest people i nthe world. Also, if we take Norway. They have also got pro US goverment and they have also got oil, but people are rich, the country is propesperous. So why would it not be the same for Russia and Russians?
Wrong, Saudi is poorer, because they do not own their own oil, US private oil companies own it.
The US has given to a minority of wahabits enermous wealth which protect their made up royality, while US provides them with all necessary stuff to keep this regime under US controll, the minority who calls themselfs now royal has no will to give up all that wealth and power just to be executed in their entire form as soon they would be overthrown. Saudi Arabia is a poor country where the money is not contributed or used for wealth of the country, but to assure the status quo. While Lybia and Iran are paying their citizens from the sold oil with a humble payment of roughly 20 USD per month, well not anymore the case in Lybia thx to US. No other country ever did that not even Russia which holds the most resources on this planet.
andrewlya wrote:If you look at statistics top ten richest nations are all US puppets,regardless of the fact that the US oil companies own their natural resources the people of those countries are most well off in the world.Werewolf wrote:andrewlya wrote:I have heard a theory that the US will want to exploit Russia's natural resources if they put pro US puppet, but would it make Russians poorer?
I am looking at an example of Saudi. The US and Saudi goverment have signed an agreement that Saudi lets the US to take control of theirt oil fields in exchange that they leave their religion alone. The US having the control of the Saudi oil have not made the country poorer, the Arabs are one of the wealthiest people i nthe world. Also, if we take Norway. They have also got pro US goverment and they have also got oil, but people are rich, the country is propesperous. So why would it not be the same for Russia and Russians?
Wrong, Saudi is poorer, because they do not own their own oil, US private oil companies own it.
The US has given to a minority of wahabits enermous wealth which protect their made up royality, while US provides them with all necessary stuff to keep this regime under US controll, the minority who calls themselfs now royal has no will to give up all that wealth and power just to be executed in their entire form as soon they would be overthrown. Saudi Arabia is a poor country where the money is not contributed or used for wealth of the country, but to assure the status quo. While Lybia and Iran are paying their citizens from the sold oil with a humble payment of roughly 20 USD per month, well not anymore the case in Lybia thx to US. No other country ever did that not even Russia which holds the most resources on this planet.
1. Luxembourg
2. Qatar
3. Norway
4. Kuwait
5. United Arab Emirates
6. Singapore
7. United States
8. Ireland
9. Equatorial Guinea
10. Switzerland
So,if Russia did have a pro US government maybe it would be a benefit to ordinary folk there.
andrewlya wrote:No, I don't.max steel wrote:Coz RUSSIA aint anyone's Bitch. You fear amerikans really ?
I am much more pro Russian than I am pro American. What I am asking is that if countries like Canada that is much bigger than the US, that has a lot of natural resources such oil etc and they have a pro US government and still manage to have one of the highest living standards and quality of life in the world,same with Scandinavians.
So what makes Russians so worried if pro US/EU government ever get into power there?
Russia has an immense natural potential which they need to capitalise on, if manage in the right way Russians should be one of the richest nation in the world.
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:So what exactly did Libya have that other oil countries don't? In UAE native Arabs are only ca. 25% of the population and most don't even have to work because the entire country is ran by migrant labor from Asia (Indians, Pakis, Bengalis, Filipinos) and specialists from EU/USA.
Werewolf wrote:andrewlya wrote:If you look at statistics top ten richest nations are all US puppets,regardless of the fact that the US oil companies own their natural resources the people of those countries are most well off in the world.Werewolf wrote:andrewlya wrote:I have heard a theory that the US will want to exploit Russia's natural resources if they put pro US puppet, but would it make Russians poorer?
I am looking at an example of Saudi. The US and Saudi goverment have signed an agreement that Saudi lets the US to take control of theirt oil fields in exchange that they leave their religion alone. The US having the control of the Saudi oil have not made the country poorer, the Arabs are one of the wealthiest people i nthe world. Also, if we take Norway. They have also got pro US goverment and they have also got oil, but people are rich, the country is propesperous. So why would it not be the same for Russia and Russians?
Wrong, Saudi is poorer, because they do not own their own oil, US private oil companies own it.
The US has given to a minority of wahabits enermous wealth which protect their made up royality, while US provides them with all necessary stuff to keep this regime under US controll, the minority who calls themselfs now royal has no will to give up all that wealth and power just to be executed in their entire form as soon they would be overthrown. Saudi Arabia is a poor country where the money is not contributed or used for wealth of the country, but to assure the status quo. While Lybia and Iran are paying their citizens from the sold oil with a humble payment of roughly 20 USD per month, well not anymore the case in Lybia thx to US. No other country ever did that not even Russia which holds the most resources on this planet.
1. Luxembourg
2. Qatar
3. Norway
4. Kuwait
5. United Arab Emirates
6. Singapore
7. United States
8. Ireland
9. Equatorial Guinea
10. Switzerland
So,if Russia did have a pro US government maybe it would be a benefit to ordinary folk there.
Statistics...never trust statistics.
Statistics are mostly pushed by agendas not reflection of reality.
Living standards in Lybia were far higher than any other country of arabic of those listed above and LIVING STANDARDS include human rights which are non existent in Qatar, Kuwait and UAE for lot of people.
Werewolf wrote:andrewlya wrote:I have heard a theory that the US will want to exploit Russia's natural resources if they put pro US puppet, but would it make Russians poorer?
I am looking at an example of Saudi. The US and Saudi goverment have signed an agreement that Saudi lets the US to take control of theirt oil fields in exchange that they leave their religion alone. The US having the control of the Saudi oil have not made the country poorer, the Arabs are one of the wealthiest people i nthe world. Also, if we take Norway. They have also got pro US goverment and they have also got oil, but people are rich, the country is propesperous. So why would it not be the same for Russia and Russians?
Wrong, Saudi is poorer, because they do not own their own oil, US private oil companies own it.
The US has given to a minority of wahabits enermous wealth which protect their made up royality, while US provides them with all necessary stuff to keep this regime under US controll, the minority who calls themselfs now royal has no will to give up all that wealth and power just to be executed in their entire form as soon they would be overthrown. Saudi Arabia is a poor country where the money is not contributed or used for wealth of the country, but to assure the status quo. While Lybia and Iran are paying their citizens from the sold oil with a humble payment of roughly 20 USD per month, well not anymore the case in Lybia thx to US. No other country ever did that not even Russia which holds the most resources on this planet.
This is what I mean even thoughSaudis are US puppets, the living standards have not deterorated in Saudi Arabia or other Gulf Sates. So, would it a pro US goverment in Russia have such a negative impact on Russia and Russians?kvs wrote:Werewolf wrote:andrewlya wrote:I have heard a theory that the US will want to exploit Russia's natural resources if they put pro US puppet, but would it make Russians poorer?
I am looking at an example of Saudi. The US and Saudi goverment have signed an agreement that Saudi lets the US to take control of theirt oil fields in exchange that they leave their religion alone. The US having the control of the Saudi oil have not made the country poorer, the Arabs are one of the wealthiest people i nthe world. Also, if we take Norway. They have also got pro US goverment and they have also got oil, but people are rich, the country is propesperous. So why would it not be the same for Russia and Russians?
Wrong, Saudi is poorer, because they do not own their own oil, US private oil companies own it.
The US has given to a minority of wahabits enermous wealth which protect their made up royality, while US provides them with all necessary stuff to keep this regime under US controll, the minority who calls themselfs now royal has no will to give up all that wealth and power just to be executed in their entire form as soon they would be overthrown. Saudi Arabia is a poor country where the money is not contributed or used for wealth of the country, but to assure the status quo. While Lybia and Iran are paying their citizens from the sold oil with a humble payment of roughly 20 USD per month, well not anymore the case in Lybia thx to US. No other country ever did that not even Russia which holds the most resources on this planet.
I have to correct you on the ownership of Saudi oil. In the 1970s it was western oil majors that ran the shop but
they were displaced by Aramco the Saudi national oil company. But it makes no difference as far as the west is
concerned since the Saudis plow the money they make selling oil back into the west via investments. This
translates into a massive discount for oil bought from Saudi Arabia. The Saudi domestic economy has been too
small to absorb the revenue stream. But this is changing as their population explodes.
andrewlya wrote:..................
Why can't Russia adopt a practical aproach like the Arabs i.e. "to plow the money they make selling oil back into the west via investments" and make its nation one of the prosperous in the world? They have the tools and material to do that, they just need to get on with it!
How do they make their nation prosperous, please give me an example?PapaDragon wrote:andrewlya wrote:..................
Why can't Russia adopt a practical aproach like the Arabs i.e. "to plow the money they make selling oil back into the west via investments" and make its nation one of the prosperous in the world? They have the tools and material to do that, they just need to get on with it!
But they are already making their nation one of the prosperous in the world lot more efficiently than before.
Why should they share their money with Americans when they can keep it all for themselves?
So, do you think their living standards will ever match those of Canada/Scandinavia?sepheronx wrote:By using their brains. Like you should and read the other threads rather than going in circles and repeating yourself.
Wages are higher now than ever, efen after forex change and inflation (which FOREX makes little difference now). Self sufficiency in energy related development with growing prospects of further inhouse development of new toolings. Reduced unemployment rate (5.3% now. Much lower than most Arab states), subsidized housing programs and or free housing from Soviet era (so most have a roof over their heads). More liberty (far more, regardless what western media says. No one loses their head or arms for believing in a different religion, woman are not stoned to death. Hell, woman in Russia hold major high positions, more than nearly any other country), newer roads and infrastructure (someone posted skyscrapers forums as a source, which is a good one), subsidized education so that means russians are some of the most educated people in the world, etc.
Arab countries for the most part sucks. I have had family that worked in them for years. They look pretty and glamourus on the outside, but bad on the in. And only few people have the wealth.
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