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    Post  Hole Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:16 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:What is very surprising is the concept of TUE

    Of therapeutic use exception.

    Most of the TUE issued are to American athletes.

    This means they have a legal loophole to dope, and then they are not labelled as dopers or cheaters, but as an exception to the rules.

    It's very convenient the same organization which is responsible for evaluating TUE is the WADA , which coincidentally is the one who charged Russia with a state wide doping scandal

    So an athlete like Simone Biles, and Ryan Lochte can file as legal dopers under an ADHD diagnosis

    But Kamila Valieva is ranked through the coals for the angina drug, well maybe she has angina! Maybe she should qualify for TUE? 

    Well, it's all up to the WADA

    I can´t remember where I read or saw it, but a few years ago some WADA official said that Russians can´t get TUE´s because they would only use it to mask their doping. So much to fairness in sport. If they would do it to anyone else it would be called rassism in most western countries.

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    Post  Urluber Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:53 pm

    Definitely a fishy case this Kamila "doping-allegations". I would not rule out possibility of sabotage.
    In fact, head of federation council Matvienko has already hinted about involvement of 'usual suspects' in this case.

    Russia is assuming more active role on world stage and power never comes for free. The ones having the power now will fight to keep every drop of it. World is not a fair place.
    More infiltration into international organizations is required - if Russia is willing to continue being part of these organizations (that's another topic). Americans have their finger in every international organization that matters, be it financial institutions, sports federations or whatever. That's why they are never in position where Russia is at the moment.


    But! There's always a silver lining. Good thing is that reach of US services seems to be limited to sabotaging Russian sports in international competitions and organizing false threats to children's schools in Russia. So, nothing of huge importance (although especially threats to schools are morally very low, but we all know how Americans operate). Very limited, very limited.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:30 am

    An interesting aspect is that she passed tests before and after the event and it was only a day after they won the event that an accusation of a failed test was made... and no mention of the levels of the drug found... was it substantial concentrations or was it a tiny trace amount... they wont say... and of course they wont say because she is a minor, but the western media take that as evidence of wrongdoing and guilt.

    The chemical they are talking about is not a performance enhancing drug that would have any effect on her performance... especially if before and after the event she came out as clean... doping on the day of the event is totally pointless and could only serve one purpose, which does not benefit anyone except the losers at that event.

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:20 pm

    And CNN was the first to "break the news", which means that it´s all BS.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:34 pm

    Hole wrote:And CNN was the first to "break the news", which means that it´s all BS.
    And CNN is the type of 'news' organization to cover events in Hong Kong with footage from Brazil. Wink

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:02 pm

    The hearing at CAS will be at the 15., the day the female competition starts. Even if she is cleared she will propably not be able to start. A "classic" Djokovic stunt by the western pillars of democracy and human rights.

    New info. It will be at sunday, one day before the competition. Still very tough scedule for a 15 year old.


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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:28 am

    I can´t remember where I read or saw it, but a few years ago some WADA official said that Russians can´t get TUE´s because they would only use it to mask their doping.

    Only use it to mask their doping the way the US does?

    Same old same old... western propaganda is based on accusing the enemy of doing what they already do themselves...

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    Post  George1 Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:27 am

    Αnother Gold medal, this time in Men's relay in CC Skiing russia

    https://olympics.com/en/news/roc-wins-gold-in-beijing-2022-cross-country-relay

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    Post  George1 Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:34 am

    In support of the Russian Olympians, the military personnel of the Central Military District unfurled a banner at an altitude of more than 2000 meters

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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:57 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    I can´t remember where I read or saw it, but a few years ago some WADA official said that Russians can´t get TUE´s because they would only use it to mask their doping.

    Only use it to mask their doping the way the US does?

    Same old same old... western propaganda is based on accusing the enemy of doing what they already do themselves...

    And pure rassism.
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    Post  calripson Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:13 pm

    Hole wrote:The hearing at CAS will be at the 15., the day the female competition starts. Even if she is cleared she will propably not be able to start. A "classic" Djokovic stunt by the western pillars of democracy and human rights.

    New info. It will be at sunday, one day before the competition. Still very tough scedule for a 15 year old.

    Most likely Valieva as a known future star of the Olympics and as a sympathetic figure as a young girl was targeted by Western intelligence (CIA/MI6 most likely). Either someone around her with access to her food/drink were compromised or her eating habits were discovered and take-out food was tainted. In either event, she was most likely spiked back in December and the test results delayed until the optimal point. Once again illustrates pure ruthlessness and incompetence on the part of Russian intelligence for not anticipating said scenario and taking appropriate countermeasures.
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:17 pm

    I thought it was an angina medication that was "banned" that she used. This does not require a 007 operation but bureaucratic
    games at WADA.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:29 am

    Most likely Valieva as a known future star of the Olympics and as a sympathetic figure as a young girl was targeted by Western intelligence (CIA/MI6 most likely). Either someone around her with access to her food/drink were compromised or her eating habits were discovered and take-out food was tainted. In either event, she was most likely spiked back in December and the test results delayed until the optimal point. Once again illustrates pure ruthlessness and incompetence on the part of Russian intelligence for not anticipating said scenario and taking appropriate countermeasures.

    I don't think blaming the Russians for this is helpful... lets face it... that lab was ordered to "find" something illegal in the sample... I am surprised they didn't find any Novachok, but they could probably find evidence of that too if that was what they were ordered to do.

    You are assuming that these labs don't fake evidence or results... I suspect most of the time it is hiding real drug use by US athletes but of course once they start doing that then the US has them and they have to fake results for other uses as well to avoid being discredited... a discredited testing lab is not a viable business.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:39 am

    Valieva cleared to compete in Beijing

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    Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva is free to compete at the Beijing Winter Olympics after the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) rejected demands to impose a suspension on the teenager, in a case involving a positive doping sample taken in December.

    The decision comes just one day before the women’s figure skating singles event in Beijing, where the 15-year-old Valieva is the gold medal favorite and is now able to compete.

    In announcing the decision, CAS cited Valieva’s status as a “protected person” under the World-Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Code due to her age.

    It also noted that Valieva had not tested positive in Beijing, and that imposing a suspension on her at the Games would cause “irreparable harm in these circumstances.”

    Referring to the fact that Valieva’s result from the doping probe taken on December 25 was not reported until February 8 – after she had competed and won gold in the team event in Beijing – CAS said there were “serious issues” regarding the “untimely notification” of the result, which hindered Valieva’s ability to establish a legal defense.

    Awesome russia

    Murkan and Eurotrash trolls can go feck themselves... Their attempts to smear her have FAILED!! Laughing

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    Post  Hole Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:37 pm

    But as usual the west doubled down. No medal ceremony for her, according to IOC. And all western MSM is telling that she has a "past doping offence".
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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:06 pm

    Hole wrote:But as usual the west doubled down. No medal ceremony for her, according to IOC. And all western MSM is telling that she has a "past doping offence".

    Retarded propaganda for retards. Figure skating is not like running. Doping does not give you an advantage. Stamina boosts cannot
    overcome technical (i.e. mental and muscle memory) skill. There is no doping that can help develop such skill. It is not brute strength
    like with WWE steroid freaks or weight lifters and body builders. This accusation is equivalent to accusing a chess player of using dope.
    Higher nerve function dope does not exist.

    Someone will chime in and claim that hockey players can benefit from dope. Only as a strength and stamina stimulant which does not
    apply to figure skating. Figure skating is an art more than a sport and that is why it uses judges.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:09 pm

    Hole wrote:But as usual the west doubled down. No medal ceremony for her, according to IOC. And all western MSM is telling that she has a "past doping offence".

    She already secured herself pile of cash, BMW, personal driver until she is 18, advertising money, state pension, hero's welcome and a reception at the Kremlin

    I don't think she gives a shit about sore losers doubling down

    Git gud, scrubs



    Come next Olympics I bet that they will add Vitamin C on list of banned substances and wait 3 years to publish test results

    They'll still lose, though Razz




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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:32 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Hole wrote:But as usual the west doubled down. No medal ceremony for her, according to IOC. And all western MSM is telling that she has a "past doping offence".

    She already secured herself pile of cash, BMW, personal driver until she is 18, advertising money, state pension, hero's welcome and a reception at the Kremlin

    I don't think she gives a shit about sore losers doubling down

    Git gud, scrubs



    Come next Olympics I bet that they will add Vitamin C on list of banned substances and wait 3 years to publish test results

    They'll still lose, though Razz





    The whole is IOC is a laughable joke, they'll terrorize a 15 year old girl, but they'll allow Serena "Magilla Gorilla" Williams to compete, they even let tranny's compete in woman's sports despite a natural born male having a hormonal, bone and muscle structural advantage gained by male puberty lol!

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    Post  Hole Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:55 pm

    My guess is she wasn´t punished for being great in her sport. She disrupted the narrative that russians are ugly, evil, sinister people ready to attack the west and steal babies to eat them later. After her routine american commentators (ex-figure skaters with lots of medals around their neck) praised her performance. Huge american film, TV and music stars posted videos with her performance and cheered her. So she had to be punished, marked for all time as "doping offender" to stop these behaviour.

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    Post  calripson Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:07 pm

    Hole wrote:My guess is she wasn´t punished for being great in her sport. She disrupted the narrative that russians are ugly, evil, sinister people ready to attack the west and steal babies to eat them later. After her routine american commentators (ex-figure skaters with lots of medals around their neck) praised her performance. Huge american film, TV and music stars posted videos with her performance and cheered her. So she had to be punished, marked for all time as "doping offender" to stop these behaviour.

    All part of the philosophy of information warfare. There is no truth - just power induced narratives. Domestic audiences are subject to the same thing, but in a different way. Just watch the ads during the US Superbowl.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:15 am

    calripson wrote:All part of the philosophy of information warfare. There is no truth - just power induced narratives. Domestic audiences are subject to the same thing, but in a different way. Just watch the ads during the US Superbowl.

    Fake narratives repeated endlessly are a central tool in the Wests arsenal of "price tag" attacks against nations (like Russia) that refuse to accept a knee on their necks.

    Putins "hidden wealth"
    Litvinenko poisoning
    Skripal (fake) poisoning
    Navalny (fake) poisoning
    Sochi Olympics "corruption"
    Putin "killing his political enemies"
    Russian state-sponsored doping (aka Grigory Rodchenkovs lies) and smearing of Russian athletes
    MH17
    Crimea "invasion"
    Allegation of CW use in Syria by gov forces
    Ukraine "invasion plans"

    Only a fool believes anything that comes out of the Imperial shithole.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:23 pm

    It's the NCAA now, but next time around it'll be the Olympics in the near future! censored
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    It's laughable how the West allows some athletes to be restricted, while other athletes are allowed clear-cut advantages. Those broad shoulders though lmao!  clown  lol1

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