CSTO: News and Developments

JohninMK wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:
On another note USA doesn't need to buy Russian uranium and especially with tensions high they may fear Russia may stop supply (13%). A breakdown of roughly what US imports.
Nuclear energy companies in the U.S. didn’t import uranium from China in 2018. Instead, they imported from a variety of countries in short- and long-term contracts: Canada (24%), Kazakhstan (20%), Australia (18%), Russia (13%), Uzbekistan (6%), and Namibia (5%).  so second highest import is Kazakhstan, so if USA controlled that and got it pretty much for free, and even if it lost Russian import it would simply bring the additional 13% from USA controlled Kazakhstan, in fact it would probably rape even more and reduce its import from other countries and get it all pretty much free.

I rest my case.

Did the US import Afghanistani uranium under a different label to hide the theft?

CIA backed flights in and out of Afghanistan without the knowledge of Afghan government, or maybe they knew but turned a blind eye if money is crossing someone's hand.

There was a documentary about it a few years ago.

Protection of Almaty airport by the Russian peacekeeping contingent of the CSTO

The first Russian units of the CSTO peacekeeping contingent took off from Almaty airport

CIA backed flights in and out of Afghanistan without the knowledge of Afghan government, or maybe they knew but turned a blind eye if money is crossing someone's hand.

There was a documentary about it a few years ago.

Would obviously claim they did it to stop it falling into the wrong hands... ironic because they are the definition of the wrong hands...

Return from Kazakhstan of units of the Republic of Belarus by aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces


Return of units of the Republic of Armenia from Kazakhstan by aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces


Return from Kazakhstan of units of the Republic of Tajikistan by aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces


Departure of CSTO peacekeepers of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan from Kazakhstan

Return of a unit of the Armed Forces of the Kyrgyz Republic from the CSTO CCM to the point of permanent deployment


Arrival at the points of permanent deployment of the peacekeeping contingent of Armenia


Return of a unit of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus from the CSTO CCM to the point of permanent deployment


Return of the unit of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Tajikistan of the CSTO CCM to the point of permanent deployment

Kazakhstan plans to open permanent mission at CSTO in Moscow

https://tass.com/defense/1395669

CSTO to hold its own event akin to ‘Munich Security Conference’, Kazakh diplomat says

https://tass.com/defense/1400491

CSTO countries must have firm assurances from Moscow that the example of the spetsoperation in Ukraine won't spread to them under normal circumstances sometime in the future. There must be a pact among them to reinsure support for the present-day operation.

CSTO’s Rubezh-2022 exercise ends in Tajikistan

https://tass.com/defense/1525691

CSTO peacekeeping exercises to be held in Kyrgyzstan on October 9-13

https://tass.com/defense/1681349

sepheronx wrote:Now that every CSTO members maybe besides Belarus is actively working against Russia, with Armenia now moving west, I think it's high time CSTO is disbanded, no?

It would make more sense to "disband" those countries as sovereign entities.

Probably it will happen in the mid term future for a bunch of them

is actively working against Russia,

Except Armenia, the other countries are mostly taking money and stuff from the west in a time
when the western ressources are thinly stretched. I wouldn´t call that "working against Russia."

If they want to leave then they should leave... I am sure the US and EU has their best interests at heart and will never let them down.

(Regarding your question I don't know enough about the Roman empire to comment, but I suspect they are nothing alike. Russia does not create groups to give them power over the other members of the group like the west seems to like to do.)

sepheronx wrote:Armenia is griped in protests in the parliament and outside.  Pashinyan is throwing whatever he can at the wall.  His days are numbered.

Armenia decided to join its rapers in the West. Turkey (NATO), Azerbaijan, Israel (even closer ally to US than NATO is), etc. And blame the only country willing to defend them (Russia).

They are idiots who deserve to be drowned in the Turkish Armenian Genocide 2.0. I wouldn't be surprised if they all become stateless persons like the Jews used to be.

they all become stateless persons 

Where do you think they will run to? 

sepheronx wrote: How interesting it turns out: Secretary of the Security Council of Armenia Armen Grigoryan claims that Russia surrendered Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan, not the Armenian authorities.
This happened when we were completely dependent on Russia. Russia came, took Nagorno-Karabakh from us, returned it to Azerbaijan, then returned, that’s the whole reality. I claim that it was Russia that took away Nagorno-Karabakh.
An amazing situation is developing: the Pashinyan administration refused to fight for Nagorno-Karabakh , giving the historical Armenian territory to be torn to pieces by the Azerbaijanis.

Along with this, the country's authorities made a turn towards the West , invited European vacationing observers and froze participation in joint blocs with Russia. Of course, except for the EAEU.

Then they began to voluntarily surrender their own territories to Azerbaijan, driving their residents out of their homes and receiving nothing in return. And subsequently they declared an incomprehensible world, the conditions of which are vague , and the prospects are extremely depressing.

And now they are shifting responsibility for their actions, or rather inaction , to Russia. Moreover, this was done simultaneously with the statement of former US Ambassador John Heffern to Armenia that all the activities of the US ambassadors were aimed at separating Armenia from Russia.

Why did Grigoryan even say this? In addition to the standard search for the culprit everywhere except at home, this also serves another purpose. Apparently, Yerevan intends to raise the stakes not only in the region itself, but also in relations with Russia in order to get the reaction they need. Which one? Most likely we will find out soon.
#Армения #Россия
@rybar

Yerevan will become a Turkish city in a few years. After that Russia or Iran will maybe have the opportunity to claim the land for themselves.

About the Armenians, the only remaining Armenians will be the ones in Moscow or in the west.

Armenian government and people are responsible for their own destruction. In the meanwhile Russia should not do anything about them, they should even explain how to leave CSTO and EEU in the shortest possible time.

How do you say good riddance in Armenian?

Of course after also telling them that they are able to reject cooperation with Russia without consequences, except the negative ones for their safety and their economy, but increasing CIA or NATO presence in the area and/or inviting US or NATO to replace them in the two russian military bases there (Russian 102nd Military Base in Gyumri and the Russian 3624th Airbase in Erebuni Airport near Yerevan) will be considered a hostile act, and they should know from the SMO how Russia consider those.
Adding also that 2 years ago Russia started the SMO with kid gloves, mainly because most Ukrainians are ethnic Russians, but the same will not be applied to an eventual military operation to Armenia, which could be just a scorched earth campaign without boots on the ground, leaving then the rest of work to iran or Azerbaijan, if interested.

The only reason the conflict in the Ukraine happened was to save the pro Russian Ukrainians who wanted to keep trade ties with Russia and to speak Russian as their language.

If Armenia wants to cut itself off from Russia and join the west I doubt Russia would invade. They will simply withdraw their soldiers from the region and leave it to forge its own future.

I kinda get the feeling that the most powerful family in the US probably had something to do with all this... no, not the Gates's or Kennedy family... this will be the Khardashians... do you think they probably screened their TV show in Armenia to show how easy it is to become billionaires in the US for Armenians... and why are you wasting time with those Russians?

When talk of equal pay for women comes up Bill Burr points out that the main reason the women don't get the equal pay to the male sportsmen is because women don't watch sport... they don't support the women athletes. Women would rather watch Hollywood housewives and the Khardashians... women ripping each other apart and spitting on each other, instead of getting together in groups to work together as a team for shared goals and a purpose.

There was a male vs female survivor type programme run by Bear Gryls and it was the same... the men worked together and broke down problems and split into groups and solved the problems. They had fun. They supported each other and helped each other and worked together. The women argued and complained and nothing got done and they went to the mens camp all the time to keep warm at the mens fire and complain about all their problems. No cooperation and some very very stupid decisions... like using their fresh water to wash their hair...

Armenian women watching the Khardashians and wanting to be like America... the new CIA tactic... and in one stroke they have doomed their children to false dreams for the future and destroyed their countries economy... unless they can convince some of the Khardashians to move back to Armenia, thereby doubling the economy.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
It would make more sense to "disband" those countries as sovereign entities.

Probably it will happen in the mid term future for a bunch of them

That would be a historical mistake. Aside from northern Kazakhstan, where there's still a lot of Russians and it has world's biggest uranium deposits, other parts of stans would have to be heavily subsidized and same mistakes from Soviet times would be made. Not to mention that islamic fundamentalism would be on the rise and that they would flood Russia even easier than nowadays. Also, those countries have a lot higher natality than Russia. It would be foolish to further subsidize their birth rates.

Armenia needs to stop pussyfooting and simply kick Russia out of Armenia, let them turn to France and the US for protection. They'll never let you down, ask the Kurds, Iraqi/Afghan collaborators and South Vietnamese.

The problem for the countries where this sort of thing happens it is normally government officials and the military that are bribed and used to engineer the revolution and then they go full steam ahead... in comes the CIA and the local media are cleaned up and told the message to sell and that who the real bad guys are... obviously it is easier in some places than in others, but whether you are Finland or Sweden or Georgia or Armenia or Ukraine, the people getting bribed often move to the west with all their money and the population remains and suffers... even if the media in their country blames all the suffering on Russia... it is pretty obvious to anyone outside the propaganda to see it is actually the west that is destroying these countries to use them as meat shields against Russia...

Well the damage to the Ukraine meat shield has made Georgia think again, and I would hope the people of Armenia are not so easily manipulated by American and EU propaganda... because that is all a facade that is cracking and falling apart and wont be around for much longer.

In comparison the iron curtains Finland has put up could be around for decades or more... but as the EU has found that is just going to hurt them more than it hurts Russia. If Finland and the EU don't want cheap wood and energy, then there are lots of other countries who will buy, or Russia might use that energy and raw materials to make their own paper and other products to sell to the world.