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    Russian Military Pistols Thread:

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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:09 am

    They still have enormous numbers of Nagant revolvers in the hands of private security guards in Russia and are converting them to all sorts of calibres to try to make them interesting or a attractive to buy.

    The Makarov is a good pistol for what it is supposed to be.

    It is small and light and reasonably accurate and although the west goes on about how it is weaker than the 9mm German round, with full metal jacket ammo they both essentially make the same diameter hole in the target.

    The only effective pistol calibre weapons are submachine guns which are lethal because of the number of holes you end up bleeding out of.

    Pretty much all structures in Russia used the Makarov, but there have been a lot of attempts to replace it.

    The SR-1 Gurza pistol in 9x21mm was probably the first pistol to replace the Makarov but it was only used by special forces because the ammo was not mass produced at that time. The PYa Yargan pistol seems to be the pistol they issue to troops equipped with Ratnik, but there are a couple of new pistols that have also been shown that the makers claim are going to replace the Makarov.

    The problem there is that they are all right because no matter who their new pistol is for the existing pistol will be the Makarov, so when the makers of the Boa Constrictor say the interior ministry is adopting their pistol to replace the Makarov then they are not wrong.

    The trick of course is to find the pistol and pistol maker that has signed a contract with the Russian Army to replace the Makarov as a general squad issue side arm... they are all also making updated models of their pistols too.
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:10 pm

    Carbines based on the RSh-12 assault revolvers for the 12.7 x 55mm cartridge and its 9x39mm version of the RSh-9. They were named MC-569 and MC-570, respectively. Both samples are still in the status of experimental ones, but they may enter the civilian market in the foreseeable future. 

    Allegedly, revolver carbines are designed for hunting large and medium-sized game at short distances, which is not surprising at all - the muzzle energy of the 12.7x55mm SC-174 cartridge used is about 3000 joules. Such a cartridge, for example, is comparable to a 7.62x54R rifle cartridge when firing from an SVD.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:54 pm

    Carbines based on the RSh-12 assault revolvers for the 12.7 x 55mm cartridge and its 9x39mm version of the RSh-9. They were named MC-569 and MC-570, respectively. Both samples are still in the status of experimental ones, but they may enter the civilian market in the foreseeable future.

    Nice... I see the barrels and hammers are aligned to the bottom chamber to shift the line of recoil and reduce the muzzle flip when shooting.

    Very good idea.

    The 12.7 x 55mm is obviously wide enough to take a 12.7mm calibre bullet, which means the shell case is rather wider than the 7.62x54mm rifle round and of course it is 1mm longer so it should be able to take the much bigger bullet along with a lot more propellent to make a much more powerful round.

    Not much in New Zealand it could be used against to be honest... very much a dangerous game weapon
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:05 pm

    Rostec will export Aspid for the first time. 

    Central Research Institute of Precision Engineering (Tsniitochmash) of Rostec State Corporation will export for the first time a 9x19-mm sports self-loading pistol RG120, created as part of the development work "Aspid". The first batch of pistols will be delivered to the European customer this year.

    The pistol is designed on the platform of the combat 9x21-mm pistol complex "Udav" and is designed for sports shooting at a range of up to 50 m. "Aspid" is characterized by increased ergonomics and convenient layout. Also, at the request of the customer, special pads can be installed on the pistol handle, adapted to the individual grip of the shooter.

    "Russian weapons have traditionally enjoyed success both in the domestic and foreign markets. First of all, due to reliability, ease of operation and high tactical and technical characteristics. "Aspid" is a sports pistol developed on the basis of combat samples. The guaranteed resource is 25 thousand shots. It is equipped with an 18-round magazine, as well as a rail mount for sights and additional equipment – a Picatinny rail. "Aspid" has a good export potential. By the end of 2021, the first batch will be delivered to a foreign customer" – Bekhan Ozdoev, industrial director of the Rostec cluster of weapons, ammunition and special chemicals, said. 

    For pistol shooting, 9x19-mm Luger pistol cartridges or 9x19-mm Para pistol cartridges with a lead-core bullet are used. The gun remains operational at temperatures from minus 30 to plus 50 degrees.

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    Post  George1 Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:29 am

    State-of-the-art Udav pistol with silencer to start arriving for Russian troops in 2023

    https://tass.com/defense/1394333

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