Viktor wrote:What borders me most is idea that Pancir-S1 can not shoot down anything flying faster than 400m/s such is HARM for example.
With its radar and 1000m/s missile I sow no problem dealing with HARM like threat.
Don't take this report as indicative of anything. It has been heavily....scrutinized on the big Russian forums.
Frankly there is lack of clarity where this thing i coming from, and if it is not just some anti KBP fantasy.
Not to mention it has already been exported to state that can afford to buy anything it wants, and has no lack of Western suppliers. IF the UAE found llarge faults in the complex outside of intended parameters there would have been a scandal.
point 4: nonsense
point 8: nonsense
point 11:whole point of Pantsir is point defense of larger complexes
"The fact that this is portrayed as an "open" discussion on the Pantsir SAM itself brings doubt. Since when are these discussions "open"? This is either BS, or the experts who wrote this are
experts in their own eyes". Would be interesting to see what this "report" has to say about information sharing between vehicles, about serviceability, about user ergonomics: but nothing. "
And this is from a guy who has insider info + rages about domestic armaments half the time, so no KBP fanboy:
"Did the people who write this ever see a SAM? In it's current form it is certainly not a perfect vehicle, but its weakness are not what this report carries across. Report is full of nonsense
and lack of reality. For example:
1.) The SAM does not fire its guns on the move, everyone knows that. The strength of the guns is strong as will flip the Kamaz the hell over.
point 1.) There are masses of test firing at Saman targets (based on Osa) in the 6-8km parameters. The authors either are not privy to this info, or are purposefully not acknowledging it.
point 2.) They did not shoot at 1000 meter/second targets, because such targets do not exist.
point 3.) Maximum distance of shot is longer than 20km. Due to the function of any SAM, ability at such a range is much reduced. E95 target has nothing to do with this.
point 4.) old joke from followers of single stage rocket design.
pt 5.) Nonsense. Also, where did they get the size of the warhead of the hypersonic SAM? It is much larger...
pt 6.) nonsense
pt7.) Some semblance of sense. But this rocket, is one of self defense.
pt8.) Ricochet? Nonsense.
pt 9.) here the reporter just comes off as ignorant
pt 10.) Detection radar on Pantsir is centimeter. You could even say decimeter. the Phased array is milometer. All the problems with this are long known. TO the extent that they can, they are being solved by the producer. Plus, the new detection radar....just don't try to demand too much of the complex. 16km -against a plane, 12km - against a missile. No more is needed.