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    The T-80s future in the Russian Army

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    Post  TMA1 Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:41 am



    Some great footage of t80. Also the bumblebee flamethrowers are incredible attack

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    Post  GarryB Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:02 am

    Nice... incorporating NBC training with normal training... very sensible.

    There was an air defence exercise recently where they not only trained to shoot down incoming targets but some vehicles were simulated to be hit and had to be recovered from the battlefield... practical and sensible stuff.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:30 pm

    GarryB wrote:Nice... incorporating NBC training with normal training... very sensible.

    There was an air defence exercise recently where they not only trained to shoot down incoming targets but some vehicles were simulated to be hit and had to be recovered from the battlefield... practical and sensible stuff.

    Russian NBC training ofc, entails shooting flamethrower rockets at the targets Twisted Evil
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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:41 am

    Yes, those drums were filled with the corona virus and had to be destroyed with a special new mixture called Bumblebee V... Razz
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:11 pm

    flamming_python wrote:...Russian NBC training ofc, entails shooting flamethrower rockets at the targets Twisted Evil

    Well high temperature does kill the germs thumbsup
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:57 am

    Uralvagonzavod plans to upgrade T-80BVM tanks. 

    Uralvagonzavod Concern (UVZ, part of Rostec) plans to start upgrading T-80BVM tanks. This was reported to TASS by the press service of Uralvagonzavod during the International Military-Technical Forum "Army-2021".

    "Further modernization of the T-80BVM tank is planned in the following areas: increasing firepower, increasing security, increasing mobility and increasing command controllability" – the press service informed.

    Source: 

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    Post  George1 Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:19 am

    Omsktransmash is working on the modernization of all T-80U tanks to the level of T-80BVM

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:45 am

    T-80U is covered with a foamed composite material: polyurethane-based foam with the introduction of radio-absorbing additives. 
    The T-80s future in the Russian Army - Page 14 Bd2rrp10

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:45 pm

    T-80U, which was used as a target at the Zapad-2021 exercises
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    Post  Isos Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:29 am



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    Post  GarryB Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:59 pm

    T-80U is covered with a foamed composite material: polyurethane-based foam with the introduction of radio-absorbing additives.

    Likely reduce IR signature too... making Javelin less effective...
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    Post  Isos Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:09 pm

    There is bug in TM1 post ? Am I the only one who sees it ?
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:07 pm

    Isos wrote:There is bug in TM1 post ? Am I the only one who sees it ?

    Same here, everything below it is clipped

    He embedded something unusual
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    Post  Broski Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:38 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Isos wrote:There is  bug in TM1 post ? Am I the only one who sees it ?

    Same here, everything below it is clipped

    He embedded something unusual
    Hmm, probably should remove his post just to be safe.
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:48 am

    T-80BV sank in the mud
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    Post  franco Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:14 pm

    The T-80 with an active protection complex was seen at the Zapad-2021 exercises.

    T-80UM2 with the active protection complex (KAZ) "Drozd-2" was spotted after the completion of the joint strategic exercises "West-2021". The combat vehicle was demonstrated in a video of the Russian Ministry of Defense posted on the website of the Zvezda TV channel. It, among other armored vehicles of the Guards Kantemirov division, was loaded onto a railway train at one of the Belarusian stations for further return to the point of permanent deployment

    It is known that earlier in the" eighties "two types of KAZ were worked out: "Arena" and the already mentioned "Drozd-2".

    The first one was installed on the T-80UM1 "Bars"created in Omsk. This combat vehicle has been repeatedly demonstrated at weapons exhibitions held here, as well as the T-80UM2.

    This technique has always aroused great interest among both guests and domestic and foreign specialists.

    It is clear why: these systems, capable of shooting down rocket-propelled anti-tank ammunition fired from hand-held and machine-gun grenade launchers, recoilless gun shots, anti-tank guided missiles, made our tanks the most protected in the world at the time of their creation. But they also had a powerful multi-layer armor and built-in dynamic protection, which withstood the hits of armor-piercing sub-caliber shells, including those with uranium cores.

    Unfortunately, for a number of reasons, KAZ has not yet been widely distributed among us, so the participation of the T-80UM2 in Zapad-2021 can be called another sensation of the large-scale exercises that have ended.

    Also, T-80UE-1 and commander's T-80UK were involved in operations against a conditional enemy.

    NOTE: second article I have seen lately referring to T-80U modernized units.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsila.rg.ru%2F&sandbox=1

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    Post  Hole Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:03 pm

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:T-80BV sank in the mud
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    This is called camouflage. Russian style! Very Happy
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    Post  Hole Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:05 pm

    franco wrote:The T-80 with an active protection complex was seen at the Zapad-2021 exercises.

    T-80UM2 with the active protection complex (KAZ) "Drozd-2" was spotted after the completion of the joint strategic exercises "West-2021". The combat vehicle was demonstrated in a video of the Russian Ministry of Defense posted on the website of the Zvezda TV channel. It, among other armored vehicles of the Guards Kantemirov division, was loaded onto a railway train at one of the Belarusian stations for further return to the point of permanent deployment

    It is known that earlier in the" eighties "two types of KAZ were worked out: "Arena" and the already mentioned "Drozd-2".

    The first one was installed on the T-80UM1 "Bars"created in Omsk. This combat vehicle has been repeatedly demonstrated at weapons exhibitions held here, as well as the T-80UM2.

    This technique has always aroused great interest among both guests and domestic and foreign specialists.

    It is clear why: these systems, capable of shooting down rocket-propelled anti-tank ammunition fired from hand-held and machine-gun grenade launchers, recoilless gun shots, anti-tank guided missiles, made our tanks the most protected in the world at the time of their creation. But they also had a powerful multi-layer armor and built-in dynamic protection, which withstood the hits of armor-piercing sub-caliber shells, including those with uranium cores.

    Unfortunately, for a number of reasons, KAZ has not yet been widely distributed among us, so the participation of the T-80UM2 in Zapad-2021 can be called another sensation of the large-scale exercises that have ended.

    Also, T-80UE-1 and commander's T-80UK were involved in operations against a conditional enemy.

    NOTE: second article I have seen lately referring to T-80U modernized units.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsila.rg.ru%2F&sandbox=1


    The Arena-M system was tested on the T-72B3 and now Drozd-2 on the T-80U. It looks as if the next modernisation step will be the implementation of APS, at least to some tanks (western military district?).

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    Post  GarryB Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:41 am

    Drozd 1 was tested in Afghanistan in the 1980s on T-55s... I seem to remember... the Drozd 2 and ARENA design were developed based on the results.

    The ARENA was more sophisticated because it launched its munitions up and those munitions fired their interception fragments downwards in the path of the incoming threat which minimised the danger area for friendly troops nearby.

    Even if they are not perfect, putting them in service will allow improvements to be developed and experience will make them both cheaper and more effective over time... the first systems could only deal with a very limited range of projectiles based on their speed but the newer systems have better performance against a wider range of targets... just like ERA really... the first ERA was good against HEAT warheads, but newer stuff also effects kinetic penetrators too... and the same with their APS systems.

    Their brand new generation stuff like Ratnik etc stops developing separate equipment bits in isolation on their own and starts to combine bits for dual purposes... for instance before you had a compass and a map and a radio and binoculars and perhaps night vision devices... potentially all that stuff could be incorporated into a helmet system with information displayed in the visor with night vision options and super microphones to speakers next to your ears so you are protected from loud noises like gunfire and explosions but you can hear a mouse fart at 30 paces...

    Well by integrating APS systems into tanks they can do the same so the radar equipment to detect incoming threats could be incorporated into other tank systems including bringing up the camera view showing the direction incoming rounds are coming from.... not just anti armour rounds but also small arms fire or heavy calibre sniper rifle anti material rifle fire trying to take out your optics or sensors etc etc with radar and audio systems calculating the source of the fire so you can return fire and also pass on target location information to other platforms in your formation so they can engage too.
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    Post  11E Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:16 pm

    Isos wrote:

    Guessing from the unit emblem on the turret it is from the 12th or 13th Tank Regiment?

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:48 pm

    T-80U winter trials conducted by the Swedes in 1993-1994.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:51 pm


    T-80 finally finding it's purpose in life as Arctic warfare vehicle:



    I think it's safe to rename this tread to something else...

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    Post  franco Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:17 pm

    Over 20 upgraded T-80BV tanks arrive for Russian Pacific Fleet’s coastal defense troops

    MOSCOW, December 10. /TASS/. The Russian Pacific Fleet’s coastal defense troops received over 20 upgraded T-80BV tanks that will reinforce the marine corps’ strike capabilities, the Fleet’s press office reported on Friday.

    "A train with combat hardware arrived at a railway station in Vladivostok the other day. After the unloading operation, the combat vehicles escorted by military auto police were delivered on special platforms to the military unit’s auto pool," the press office said in a statement.

    The T-80BV features a gas turbine powerplant, for which it has been nicknamed "the flying tank." The combat vehicle can accelerate to over 70 km/h and cover a distance of about 500 km without refueling. The T-80BV has proven its worth in extreme Arctic conditions, which largely corresponds to harsh Far Eastern winters.

    In 2018 and 2019, the Pacific Fleet’s Kamchatka and Primorye marine corps formations received ten T-80BV tanks each.

    NOTE: not sure of the deployment. One or both of the two Naval Infantry brigades tank companies being expanded to a battalion or for the new Coastal Defense unit being formed in Chukotsk.

    EDIT:By the article attached from the Defense website, sounds like the 155th Naval Infantry brigade upgrades to a tank battalion.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12398056@egNews

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    Post  galicije83 Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:20 am

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:T-80U is covered with a foamed composite material: polyurethane-based foam with the introduction of radio-absorbing additives. 
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    This is UD not U tank...commander sight and 12.7 gun are different on T-80UD and T-80U....

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:34 am

    I wonder how effective it could be at reducing RCS with those exposed tracks with all those bumps and corners acting like corner reflectors... and after being on the move they would warm up too so in terms of IR signature the tracks would stand out on a moving vehicle... but as I mentioned above it might be enough to prevent the Javelin from getting a proper lock which would mean a Javelin could only be fired in line of sight manual mode...

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