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    The T-80s future in the Russian Army

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    Post  George1 Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:58 am



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    Post  Isos Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:43 pm

    Weired no one posted it here already  Laughing Sadely it's only in Russian.





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    Post  0nillie0 Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:49 pm

    T-80BVM on Taymyr Peninsula, Arctic.
    Not sure if Airborne or Northern Fleet Army Corps.

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    Post  franco Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:38 pm

    0nillie0 wrote:T-80BVM on Taymyr Peninsula, Arctic.
    Not sure if Airborne or Northern Fleet Army Corps.

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    Northern Fleet (200th Motor Rifle brigade to be specific) as Airborne only has T-72B3... not sure if they are even on this exercise.
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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:20 am

    Omsktransmash transferred modernized T-80BVM tanks to the troops

     JSC “Omsk Transport Engineering Plant” (part of NPK Uralvagonzavod JSC is part of the Rostec State Corporation) on October 31, 2019 announced that it had shipped to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation a consignment of modernized tanks with a T-80BVM gas turbine engine.

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    T-80BVM tanks modernized at Omsk Transport Engineering Plant JSC (part of NPK Uralvagonzavod JSC is part of the Rostec State Corporation) Omsk, October 2019 (c) Omsk Transport Engineering Plant JSC

     A press release by Omsktransmash JSC says that Omsktransmash mass-produced T-80B tanks and their modifications from 1979 to 1991. Throughout the entire period of production of military vehicles, the design of the T-80B tank was constantly being amended. The latest modification was the T-80BV, adopted by order of the Minister of Defense of the USSR in 1985.

     The T-80 BVM is a new version of the modernization of the T-80BV tank developed by Omsktransmash JSC, it provides an increase in its basic combat qualities: firepower, security, mobility and command controllability, further support of its life cycle by industrial enterprises.

     “The unique properties of a gas turbine engine give the T-80BVM an undeniable advantage when operating at low temperatures. The modernization of these machines was carried out efficiently, taking into account all the requirements of the customer, ”said Igor Lobov, Director General of Omsktransmash JSC.

     On the bmpd side, we recall that the Uralvagonzavod Scientific Industrial Corporation JSC on August 24, 2017 entered into a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense to upgrade 62 T-80B tanks to T-80BVM level (with delivery of 31 units in 2018 and 2019).

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    T-80BVM tanks modernized at Omsk Transport Engineering Plant JSC (part of NPK Uralvagonzavod JSC is part of the Rostec State Corporation) Omsk, October 2019 (c) Omsk Transport Engineering Plant JSC



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    Post  George1 Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:09 am

    The 200th separate motorized rifle brigade was re-equipped with modernized T-80BVM tanks

    As the press service of the Northern Fleet reported on November 13, 2019, the tank battalion of the [200th] separate motorized rifle brigade of the Northern Fleet was completely re-equipped with modernized T-80BVM tanks.

    The tank battalion of a separate motorized rifle brigade of the Northern Fleet completed the rearmament of the T-80BVM tanks. The last batch of 26 combat vehicles, which underwent modernization at the Omsktransmash plant, entered the compound.

    The combat training of the personnel of the tank battalion in the new training period will already take place on new equipment. Tankers are ready for their operation, since they were trained on the T-80BVM of the previous batch, which entered the brigade in 2018.

    The T-80BVM tank is a new upgrade option for the T-80BVM, carried out according to the option of increasing the basic combat qualities of an armored car: firepower of security, mobility and command controllability.

    The tank is equipped with a modified gas turbine engine with a capacity of 1250 horsepower, which allows you to increase the driving performance and mobility of the machine in all landscapes and develop speeds of up to 70 km / h. The unique properties of a gas turbine engine give the T-80BVM an advantage when operating at low temperatures in the Far North and the Arctic.

    The combat vehicle is equipped with NSVT and PKT machine guns and a 125-mm gun, which has the ability to fire guided missiles. To control weapons, the Pine-U fire control system is used, which includes the sights of the commander and gunner with day and night channels, as well as with a laser range finder.

    During the modernization, the tanks received the Reflex guided weapon system, the use of which gives an advantage in increasing the firing range, as well as the ability to hit a tank or other protected enemy object at a distance of up to five kilometers.

    In addition to the armor, the tank’s crew protects the Relict modular dynamic defense system and the anti-cumulative trellis screen.

    On the bmpd side, we recall that the Uralvagonzavod Scientific Industrial Corporation JSC on August 24, 2017 entered into a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense to upgrade 62 T-80B tanks to T-80BVM level (with delivery of 31 units in 2018 and 2019). Work on the modernization of T-80B tanks under this contract is carried out at Omsk Transport Engineering Plant JSC (part of the Uralvagonzavod Scientific Industrial Complex JSC Rostec State Corporation)

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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:22 pm

    Defense contractor completes delivery of upgraded T-80BVM tanks to Russian troops


    The T-80BVM is an upgraded version of the T-80BM tank, featuring an improved 125mm cannon and an enhanced 1,250 hp gas turbine engine

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    Post  George1 Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:01 am

    Kantemirovskaya tank division received ten modernized T-80BVM tanks


    As reported by the press service of the Western Military District, the [4th Guards] Kantemirovskaya Tank Division of the [1st] Guards Tank Army of the Western Military District is being re-equipped with T-80BVM tanks. The unit received a batch of 10 combat vehicles, which were modernized.

    On August 2, 2020, at the Alabino training ground, a ceremonial transfer of military equipment and a zeroing took place, the first live fires from all tank weapons will be held next week. Tankers are ready for their operation, since they were trained on the T-80BVM of the previous batch, which was received earlier by the connection ( photo gallery from August 1).

    As a result of the modernization, all the main characteristics of this tank have been increased: firepower, security, mobility, command control. The firing range of all types of ammunition has been increased during the day, at night and in conditions of limited visibility. All-round protection of the vehicle against modern anti-tank weapons is provided. Reduced fuel consumption when the gas turbine engine is parked with the fire control system turned on.

    The weight of the combat vehicle is 46 tons. It includes the installation of a gunner's multi-channel sight, a 125-mm cannon, a modified gas turbine engine with a capacity of up to 1250 horsepower, an armament stabilizer and a driver's observation device. To protect against enemy fire, the tank is equipped with anti-cumulative lattice screens and a complex of modular dynamic protection. The chassis has been improved.

    On the part of bmpd, recall that on August 24, 2017, Uralvagonzavod Scientific and Production Corporation JSC signed a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense to upgrade 62 T-80B tanks to the T-80BVM level (with delivery of 31 units in 2018 and 2019). Modernization of T-80B tanks under this contract is being carried outat JSC Omsk Plant of Transport Engineering (part of JSC NPK Uralvagonzavod, State Corporation Rostec).

    In fact, the first battalion set of modernized T-80BVM tanks (31 tanks) under this contract entered in 2019 to re-equip the tank battalion of the 200th separate motorized rifle brigade of the Northern Fleet. The second battalion set, apparently in 2020, will be transferred to the 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya tank division, which by now, obviously, taking into account the transferred on August 2, has already received 20 tanks.

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    Post  kopyo-21 Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:13 pm

    I wonder why T-80BVM haven't been upgraded with a panorama sight for commander like T-90MS yet? Are they jus for interim using like T-72B3?
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    Post  Isos Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:43 pm

    kopyo-21 wrote:I wonder why T-80BVM haven't been upgraded with a panorama sight for commander like T-90MS yet? Are they jus for interim using like T-72B3?

    They said they are 1.5 times more expensive to operate than t-72/90. Back in the time they were better than t72 but with modern upgrades they offer nothing more than the two other.

    The advantage is that modernizing one of them is less expensive than building a brand new t-90M. They also have better mobility than t-72.

    They will be the first to be phased out once the time comes to remove some tanks for the new t-14.

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    Post  Isos Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:03 pm

    Simple cammo similar to what was done with t-72B3. I don't know why they didn't do that long before, it's pretty simple to hide a tank from recon planes or UAVs with this. It is lesson learned directly from Syria where they use similar tactics and russians have seen the effectiveness with their own UAVs there and probably had hard time spotting such tanks and now use it on their own tanks.

    They don't add 20 tons of armor on all their vehucles like the US after Iraq/Afghan wars.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:00 am

    Isos wrote:
    kopyo-21 wrote:I wonder why T-80BVM haven't been upgraded with a panorama sight for commander like T-90MS yet? Are they jus for interim using like T-72B3?
    They will be the first to be phased out once the time comes to remove some tanks for the new t-14.

    T-80s will continue to fill a niche role in specialised theaters like the Arctic on account of their GT engine. They will be more than adequate in that role given the likely threat environment, and I can't see the Russian military wasting funds to develop a new tank for the purpose.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:32 pm

    Experimental T-80 MBT with a 30mm RCS. Only if they had this in Grozny.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:19 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Experimental T-80 MBT with a 30mm RCS. Only if they had this in Grozny...

    It wouldn't have mattered

    They sent tanks in there without any explosive in ERA tiles

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:50 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Experimental T-80 MBT with a 30mm RCS. Only if they had this in Grozny...

    It wouldn't have mattered

    They sent tanks in there without any explosive in ERA tiles


    Yes I already know about that, but the 30mm RCS would of allowed them to lay suppress fire on the multistory building windows, making Chechen separatists job's exceedingly more difficult.
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    Post  George1 Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:47 pm

    The first lessons on driving T-80BVM tanks in the new training period were held in the army corps of the Northern Fleet. The mechanics-drivers practiced in overcoming a section of terrain with difficult terrain, as well as artificial and natural obstacles on the route.

    Tanks T-80BVM are designed specifically for use in the Far North and the Arctic.

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    Post  franco Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:45 pm

    Transferred from post #183 of Russian Tank Force:Present and Future (Numbers)

    3. There seemed to be some general confusion in regards to where the second battalion of the T-80BVM was going to. It went to the 4th Tank Division instead of the 38th Brigade out in Amur. The 38th Brigade was also reported to have received new T-80BV(M)'s. While researching the T-72B3's was reminded by the Swedish Defense Institutes equipment delivery totals of the arrival of 115 upgraded T-80BV's around 2011. They were obviously put into storage as the decision at that time was to go with the T-72's only. Noticed in Defense Ministry's press releases for this summer military exercises, some units like the 38th are referred to as using improved T-80BV's. The 115 tanks would be enough to equipment 3 battalions and 2 companies. Suspect the battalions to be the tank units of the 38th, 69th and 57th Motor Rifle brigades and the 2 companies are the 40th and 155th Naval Infantry brigades. What the improvement is over a regular T-80BV not sure?

    NOTE:

    - further research revealed another 41 upgraded T-80BV's 2016-2017. Believe 1 battalion of 31 to the 59th Motor Rifle brigade (now the 394th Motor Rifle regiment of the 127th Motor Rifle division) and 1 company of 10 to the 61st Naval Infantry brigade.
    - total of 156 upgraded T-80BV
    - total of 62 T-80BVM (another 50+ on order 2021-2022)
    - total of 188 T-80U (4th Guards Tank division)
    - plus whatever tanks in the training units

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    Post  The_Observer Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:04 am

    franco wrote:Transferred from post #183 of Russian Tank Force:Present and Future (Numbers)

    3. There seemed to be some general confusion in regards to where the second battalion of the T-80BVM was going to. It went to the 4th Tank Division instead of the 38th Brigade out in Amur. The 38th Brigade was also reported to have received new T-80BV(M)'s. While researching the T-72B3's was reminded by the Swedish Defense Institutes equipment delivery totals of the arrival of 115 upgraded T-80BV's around 2011. They were obviously put into storage as the decision at that time was to go with the T-72's only. Noticed in Defense Ministry's press releases for this summer military exercises, some units like the 38th are referred to as using improved T-80BV's. The 115 tanks would be enough to equipment 3 battalions and 2 companies. Suspect the battalions to be the tank units of the 38th, 69th and 57th Motor Rifle brigades and the 2 companies are the 40th and 155th Naval Infantry brigades. What the improvement is over a regular T-80BV not sure?

    NOTE:

    - further research revealed another 41 upgraded T-80BV's 2016-2017. Believe 1 battalion of 31 to the 59th Motor Rifle brigade (now the 394th Motor Rifle regiment of the 127th Motor Rifle division) and 1 company of 10 to the 61st Naval Infantry brigade.
    - total of 156 upgraded T-80BV
    - total of 62 T-80BVM (another 50+ on order 2021-2022)
    - total of 188 T-80U (4th Guards Tank division)
    - plus whatever tanks in the training units

    Do you understand the rationale behind upgrading T-80B/BV to BVM standard instead of upgrading the much better T-80U tank?
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    Post  franco Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:35 pm

    The_Observer wrote: Do you understand the rationale behind upgrading T-80B/BV to BVM standard instead of upgrading the much better T-80U tank?

    No, and according to some Russian bloggers the batch of T-80BVM due this year will be going to the 4th Tank division to start replacing the T-80U's. Time will tell.

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    Post  franco Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:51 pm

    NOTE: Had reported previously that the reintroduced T-80BV's out in the Eastern Military District were reported to be improved. Here from the Defense website is some mention of the upgrade. For the techies on site, how much of a difference?

    New T-80BV tanks take part in the district stage of the" Tank Biathlon " of the VVO in Transbaikalia

    The crews of modern T-80BV tanks are taking part at the Borzya-Novaya training ground of the Eastern Military District (VVO), stationed in the Trans-Baikal Territory, at the district stage of the Tank Biathlon competition that started earlier.

    At the stage of the "Individual race", the crews of gas turbine tanks have already shown their skills in the art of driving and shooting accuracy, from the main and additional weapons installed on the tanks. Later, the tankers competed in meeting the standards for technical, engineering training and RCB protection.

    In addition, the best crews of T-72B3 tanks from the Republic of Buryatia, the Trans-Baikal, Primorsky and Khabarovsk Territories, the Amur and Sakhalin regions take part in the spectacular competitions.

    The winners will represent the Eastern Military District at the all-Army stages of the competitions.

    More than 300 military personnel of the VVO take part in the competition, more than 50 units of military equipment and weapons are involved.

    Reference: T-80BV — Russian modernization of the T-80 tank, developed by JSC "Omsktransmash". The upgrade includes the installation of a multi-channel gunner's sight "Sosna-U", which includes sighting, thermal imaging, rangefinder channels, as well as a missile control channel. The tank is equipped with a 125 mm cannon, a modified gas turbine engine, a weapon stabilizer and a driver's observation device. Increasing the command controllability of the T-80BV tank is provided by the installation of an ultra-short-wave radio station "Aqueduct". To protect against enemy fire, the vehicle is equipped with anti-cumulative lattice screens and a complex of modular dynamic protection "Relict". Combat weight 46 tons.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:37 am

    Burlak turret on the  of Object-219M hull.
    Vehicle is also equipped with a Afghanit APS early version.
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    Object-219M with original turret and improved Arena APS.
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    The Ya-02, experimental vehicle based on T-72B MBT. The MBT is fitted with unified turret (T-72/80/90). It is developed in frame of "Burlak" R&D. The "Burlak" was equipped with autoloader in the turret bustle, modular armor, RCW, APS, and new ERA & FCS.
    Project was closed in 2009
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    Post  xeno Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:28 pm

    Are your sure the "Burlak" was equipped with autoloader in the turret bustle? As your last picture says no, it still has the traditional autoloader under the turret ring...
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    Post  lyle6 Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:30 pm

    No, two autoloaders. The bustle one's supposed to hold all the meter long APFSDS projectiles and their charges in line for ramming straight home into the chamber, leclerc style, while the horizontal carousel autoloader holds the rest.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:49 am

    Yes, it was the Black Eagle that removed the underfloor autoloader, and added a turret bustle autoloader in its place.

    Burlak had both and if I remember correctly meant they didn't need any spare ammo outside of the autoloaders like most tanks did.

    The T-90 has 8 rounds between the engine and turret and a further 12 rounds in the turret bustle but not in an autoloader, so it has these 20 rounds plus a further 22 rounds in the turret basket autoloader.

    The Burlak reportedly had 31 rounds and propellent stubs in the turret bustle and a further 22 rounds in the turret basket for a total of 53 rounds ready to fire.

    In comparison, the T-90 had 22 rounds ready to fire and then rounds needed to be taken from the bustle and the position in front of the engine behind the turret and put into the autoloader to be able to use them.

    Rounds in a turret bustle are vulnerable to enemy fire however...

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