Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport

TV7-117ST turboprop being installed onto Ilyushin Ιl-112V at TsOS VASO in Voronezh. Image probably from early Aug'17



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Near complete left wing of the 2nd #Ilyushin-112V prototype (0102) at 44th PAO TsOS VASO in #Voronezh, Russia.

Fuselage of the 2nd Ilyushin-112V prototype (0102) at TsOS VASO in Voronezh, Russia.
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Construction of two more flight prototypes of a military transport aircraft Il-112V

PJSC "Voronezh Joint-Stock Aircraft Building Society" (VASO, a member of United Aircraft Corporation) on January 13, 2018 reported on the laying of two more pilot prototypes of the Il-112V military transport aircraft in the slipway,

Now VASO is building. The first flight prototype of IL-112V (serial number 01-01), as well as a prototype for static testing (serial number 01-02). The press release of VASO is accompanied by photographs of the practically finished first prototype 01-10 in the final assembly shop of the enterprise, and the state of the sample for static testing is also visible. According to unofficial information, the first flight of the prototype 01-01 is now scheduled for the second half of 2018.





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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation intends to purchase more than 100 IL-112V

VORONEZH, April 11. /TASS/. Russian defense Ministry intends to purchase in the new state armament programme (GPV) more than 100 light transport aircraft Il-112V, told reporters Deputy defence Minister Yury Borisov during a visit to the Voronezh aircraft manufacturing company (VASO).

"In the framework of the state armament programme <...> was the planned order of 22 aircraft. But the demand for them is high because the aircraft of the previous series already go, the life cycle of their at the finish. I think that more than 100 aircraft in total, we will buy", - said Borisov.

According to him, it is assumed that the VASO will be the main enterprise to manufacture a large batch of the Il-112V, which the company is preparing for the first flight.

"This is the Junior model of the military transport aviation. Of course, we look very carefully at this project," - said Borisov.

Light military transport aircraft Il-112V with a maximum load capacity of five tons is designed for transportation of personnel, military equipment, various types of weapons and other goods. It is created to replace the turboprop An-26 and An-24.

Can be operated on a small maloobrazovanna airfields, having both concrete and ground cover of runways. The release is planned in two versions: for use in civil aircraft (Il-112T) and military transport aviation (Il-112V). Earlier it was reported that the military intend to order 62 of the machine.

Подробнее на ТАСС:
http:/tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5113389






Well  wouldn't be bad at all.

India is considering buying IL-112V aircraft

The FSMTC noted that in August 2017, representatives of the Indian Defense Ministry and the Air Force of India held a presentation of this project
Chennai, / India /, 12 April. / TASS /. Russia has formed a proposal for the Indian side on a light military transport aircraft IL-112, now it is under consideration. This was stated to journalists on Thursday by the deputy director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation of Russia (FSMTC) Vladimir Drozhzhov.

Подробнее на ТАСС:
http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5116944

India intends to buy everything from everyone.... Or

Fresh images of the 1st and 2nd Ilyushin-112V prototypes - 0101 & 0102 respectively, at TsOS VASO.

17.04.18 image of a 2nd Ilyushin-112V prototype (0102) at 44th PAO TsOS VASO in Voronezh, Russia.
Image taken during #Rogozin's official visit to VASO.
Image gallery & press release: https://www.govvrn.ru/novost/-/~/id/2020164

miketheterrible wrote:India intends to buy everything from everyone.... Or

perhaps Russia can sell with industry cooperation. During tightening sanctions it is both new large market, also Russian standards of production and foot in sanctions' door

That last sentence makes little sense.

Anyway, India is prone to retardation in massive levels lately when it comes to procurement. What I'm saying is, it's not even worth mentioning what India is interested in cause usually nothing comes of it. Apparently the Ka-226 isn't even fully signed yet cause of India, FGFA, the transport aircraft, s-400, etc. All a joke to India it seems.

Il-112 to be scrapped  

https://defence.ru/article/poyavilis-svedeniya-o-vozmozhnom-zakritii-proekta-il-112/

Nibiru wrote:Il-112 to be scrapped  

https://defence.ru/article/poyavilis-svedeniya-o-vozmozhnom-zakritii-proekta-il-112/

"Telegram channel 'WarGonzo'".

Huston, we have a credibility problem.

Russia's fleet of transport planes are in dire straights. Add to that, reduced budget is bullshit because as pointed out multitude of times, if one does the actual numbers and planned total amount (SAP programs), they are within target, and that also included these systems.

Wargonzo is actually rather very good and their videos are great. If the Il-112 is having problems because of design issues, then the question will raise as to what will they replace the old planes with? They have already spent way too much money on these programs, especially how far the Il-112 and the Il-79MD has gone for them to make any cancellations?

There is possibilities to its cancellation. But then what? Will they just copy design of the Antanov jet they are currently using and restart production?

If they cancel this, the Russian transport fleet will be in trouble. Essentially all they will have is the Il-76 and its updates, along with old jets. The Il-96 restart plan is good, but will it also face the same fate? Seems that even with over 20T rubles planned for military procurement, they seem to cancel a lot of projects. Most come down to piss poor production capabilities or design issue....

I definitely can't believe that designing a totally new aircraft is more interesting (technically and financially) than fixing the problems of the Il-112. If you wanna see a new plane taking-off, be prepared to wait at least 4 years, and doesn't seem that Russian Air Force has that much time...

4 hrs ago on Tass. Wow so they plan to print it after ill2V programme is shut? They didn't read wargonzo or hat?!

Ilyushin plans to master the printing of parts for IL-112V on a 3D printer

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http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5357805

MOSCOW, July 9. / TASS /. The new military transport aircraft IL-112V in the future can get some simple details printed on a 3D printer. The journalists were told about this in the press service of the KLA's Transport Aviation Division.

"Experts of PJSC Il and Voronezh Aviation Plant (VASO) printed a mock-up of an air intake of a complex design for installation on the first flight sample of a light military transport aircraft IL-112V while the details printed on the printer are only test samples, which before the first flight will be replaced by metal originals, but in plans - to master the print of constructively simple components that will be installed on the serial side, "- said in the firm Ilyushin.

Now the seal will allow to quickly adjust the fixing points of the components of the hydraulic system of the aircraft, thereby speeding up the process of preparing the side for the first flight. At present, the installation of the layout for the aircraft began, noted in PJSC "IL".

"Since the Il-112V is being built from scratch, many parts and components need to be refined during the aircraft installation, and we started using a 3D printer to understand how accurate or incorrect our calculations were.This technology allows us not to interrupt the finalization of finished products, which, in turn, significantly reduces the time for installation of equipment and makes the production process cheaper, "explained Pavel Cherenkov, First Deputy General Director of PJSC" Il ".

About the plane

Light military transport aircraft IL-112V with a maximum load of up to 5 tons is intended for the transport of personnel, military equipment, various types of weapons and other cargo. It is created to replace the turboprop An-26 and An-24. The first flight, tentatively, should take place before the end of 2018.

It can be operated on small, small-equipped airfields that have both concrete and ground coverings of runways. The release is planned in two versions: for civil aviation (Il-112T) and military transport aviation (Il-112V). Earlier it was reported that the military intends to order 62 cars, then former Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov said that the military department plans to acquire at least 100 such aircraft, since the need for them is very high.

Подробнее на ТАСС:

http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5357805

jaguar_br wrote:I definitely can't believe that designing a totally new aircraft is more interesting (technically and financially) than fixing the problems of the Il-112. If you wanna see a new plane taking-off, be prepared to wait at least 4 years, and doesn't seem that Russian Air Force has that much time...

c'mon you cannot believe war-gonzo unless you believe in tooth-fairy

Yandex Translate wrote:It is noted that he came to the company, the problems found in the design of the aircraft: thus, the allowable overload experienced model instead of the normal tolerances of up to 10% is almost 40%, i.e. about 3 tons.

I'm confused about whats being said here
Is it overweight by 3tons?
For a plane with designed 5ton cargo capacity that would be a huge problem & I could understand the program facing cancellation if thats the case.

Отмечается также, что решение о прекращении проекта Ил-112 может грозить кадровыми решениями, в том числе под угрозой якобы оказывается руководитель «Ил» Алексей Рогозин.

Отмечается, что именно он, придя в компанию, обнаружил проблемы в конструировании самолета: так, допустимый перегруз опытной модели вместо нормальных допусков до 10% составляет почти 40%, то есть порядка 3 тонн.

Между тем, 22 июня Рогозин заявил, что серийное производство самолетов Ил-96 и Ил-112В на Воронежском авиазаводе начнется в 2020 году.

Translation:

It is noted that the decision on the termination of the IL-112 project threatens to include personnel decisions, included in the number
under threat supposedly is the director of IL, Alexey Rogozin.

It is noted that it is specifically he (Rogozin), upon arrival at the company, who discovered problems with construction of the plane:
specifically, the allowed overload of the prototype model instead of being the normal 10% involves almost 40%, that is around 3 tons.

In all this, Rogozin announced on June 22, that serial production of IL-96 and IL-112B at the Voronezh aircraft plant will start in
2020.

WarGonzo is pimping inconsistent BS.   So Rogozin will be fired for revealing the design flaw?   Not bloody likely.   His job is to clean house
and he is Putin's personal head chopper.   Rogozin will be doing all the firing.

The second paragraph is incoherent babble, in Russian.   No translator can fix it.   It is not actually identifying any defect.   And
it does not make any sense as a statement of payload plus fuel.   Russia is not a banana republic and no aircraft maker will claim payload
beyond the tolerances of the airframe.   That just guarantees crashes and the cessation of production.   Aircraft construction is not fly
by night.   Money is recovered over many years of production.  

The 3rd paragraph basically states that production of the IL-112B will start in 2020.   So what cancellation are they yammering on about?
The civilian variant IL-112T was never going to be the first priority.   And why would the Russian military buy a defective POS?  Especially
after Rogozin exposed the defect?  There would be no point talking about any defect at all otherwise.

As the programme started the Il-112V should have been able to carry 6 tons of cargo by an TOW of 19,7 tons. Do to the engine (TV7-117ST) not being strong enough the payload was reduced to 5 tons. With a new engine, now under development, this problem will be solved. They will produce the plane with the old engine and later change to the new one.

Hole wrote:As the programme started the Il-112V should have been able to carry 6 tons of cargo by an TOW of 19,7 tons. Do to the engine (TV7-117ST) not being strong enough the payload was reduced to 5 tons. With a new engine, now under development, this problem will be solved. They will produce the plane with the old engine and later change to the new one.

That is clearly not a design defect. Hence all the obfuscation by WarGonzo.

Statements by Alexey Rogozin on the status of the Il-112V program

rector of PJSC "Ilyushin" Alexei Rogozin about the current state of the IL-112V light military transport aircraft turned into a regular aviation long-term program. As you can judge, the conversation took place on August 12, 2108. The presentation contains a number of interesting statements.


The first flight prototype of the Il-112V military transport aircraft (serial number 01-01) to the final assembly shop of the PJSC "Voronezh Joint-Stock Aircraft Building Society" (VASO), March 2018 (c) PJSC "Ilyushin"

In the light of the publications in the media about the possible closure of the Il-112V project, which caused excitement among the band members and even wider, in RuNet, we tried to find out what is happening with this plane now. The group's administrator Alexei Polyakov managed to meet with the general director of PJSC "IL" Alexei Rogozin to clarify the situation. The meeting took place in the workshop number 7 of the Voronezh aircraft plant. Alexei Dmitrievich even personally had a small tour of the plane. Small, because even on Sunday the pilot and cargo cockpits of the plane were filled with people engaged in working out and debugging various on-board systems.

Judging by the schedule, the first take-off is planned for the fall. Delaying the construction has several reasons. This is the repeated breakdowns in the delivery of components, and the problems that arise from the assembly of a prototype at a serial plant. And another thought was expressed by the general director of the Ilyushinskaya firm: "This is a completely new aircraft. Of course, in the course of its production, the real state of the entire aviation industry is reflected. "

During our communication, Alexey Rogozin commented on the information on the Internet that the overload of an experimental aircraft was 40%: "The technique of such calculation is surprising. There is overload, but much less. At the moment the measures have been developed, we are taking quite active actions aimed at reducing the weight to the set values, and I am sure that we will fulfill the task set. " Next to the first experienced aircraft is the second, designed for resource and static testing.

The necessary resource and static tests have been completed, and further ones are important only for serial operation and are not taken into account in the near future, "explained Alexey Rogozin.

Also, the general director of PJSC "IL" expressed confidence that the third and fourth aircraft (the first serial) will be laid at the Voronezh aircraft plant in the next 2-3 months.
A response was received to the question that tormented many in our community: why, in the technical task approved by the customer, the maximum load capacity was reduced from 6 to 5 tons? The answer is simple and sad - there are not enough powerful engines for this.

Summarizing the above, it can be concluded that the design of the Il-112 is much closer to its final implementation than to the closure.

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Confirms it is overweight but nothing like 3ton.
I wonder if the explanation might be its actually 14% overweight (overweight by 40% of the allowable 10% rather than 40% of total weight)? Bad still but not necessarily fatal to the program.

hoom wrote:Confirms it is overweight but nothing like 3ton.
I wonder if the explanation might be its actually 14% overweight (overweight by 40% of the allowable 10% rather than 40% of total weight)? Bad still but not necessarily fatal to the program.

They in fact say they are going to correct it

The engine is the problem. The current one doesn´t bring enough power. So they must reduce the payload. A new enige is in the making, but is a version of the PD-14, so they must wait until this is ready for service.