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    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

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    Post  medo Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:27 pm

    I think if less powerful Zhuk-MS radar have a range against fighter sized targets around 190 km, than I don't see a problem for bigger and more powerful radar to have a range against same targets around 200 km.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:10 pm

    If this is the case, they should have used the V004 radar for Su-30SM and what not, to reduce overall costs for spare parts and supply. Su-34 then sounds extremely capable system and would also cheaper too. I can see why they ordered so many of them. Now if they made a single seat variant for air superiority, would be overall cheaper and as effective as Su-30SM....
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    Post  medo Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:42 pm

    V004 could not be placed in nose of Su-30SM as Su-34 have different nose with two seats side by side. Bars radar have the same peak power of 15 kW and have range around 400 km (developed for Su-27M / Su-35), so no need to place V004 in Su-30SM. From Bars is developed more powerful Irbis radar with 400+ km range. V004 is bigger than Bars radar and have larger volume for processors and computers in the nose than Bars radar, which also have to share the space in nose with IRST. Larger processing capabilities behind antenna, could give far better air to ground capabilities to V004 radar than what Bars or Irbis have and still have similar air to air capabilities as Zhuk-SM radar. Bars and Irbis are primary air to air radars with good air to ground capabilities, while V004 is primary air to ground with good air to air capabilities.

    Anyway, Su-34 could be no worse fighter in the air than F-15E, although they are both fighter bombers for deep strikes on ground targets.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:54 pm

    medo wrote:V004 could not be placed in nose of Su-30SM as Su-34 have different nose with two seats side by side. Bars radar have the same peak power of 15 kW and have range around 400 km (developed for Su-27M / Su-35), so no need to place V004 in Su-30SM. From Bars is developed more powerful Irbis radar with 400+ km range. V004 is bigger than Bars radar and have larger volume for processors and computers in the nose than Bars radar, which also have to share the space in nose with IRST. Larger processing capabilities behind antenna, could give far better air to ground capabilities to V004 radar than what Bars or Irbis have and still have similar air to air capabilities as Zhuk-SM radar. Bars and Irbis are primary air to air radars with good air to ground capabilities, while V004 is primary air to ground with good air to air capabilities.

    Anyway, Su-34 could be no worse fighter in the air than F-15E, although they are both fighter bombers for deep strikes on ground targets.

    Good points but even with those figures (if true) would make Su-34's v004 better than most other fighters radar.
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    Post  medo Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:24 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    medo wrote:V004 could not be placed in nose of Su-30SM as Su-34 have different nose with two seats side by side. Bars radar have the same peak power of 15 kW and have range around 400 km (developed for Su-27M / Su-35), so no need to place V004 in Su-30SM. From Bars is developed more powerful Irbis radar with 400+ km range. V004 is bigger than Bars radar and have larger volume for processors and computers in the nose than Bars radar, which also have to share the space in nose with IRST. Larger processing capabilities behind antenna, could give far better air to ground capabilities to V004 radar than what Bars or Irbis have and still have similar air to air capabilities as Zhuk-SM radar. Bars and Irbis are primary air to air radars with good air to ground capabilities, while V004 is primary air to ground with good air to air capabilities.

    Anyway, Su-34 could be no worse fighter in the air than F-15E, although they are both fighter bombers for deep strikes on ground targets.

    Good points but even with those figures (if true) would make Su-34's v004 better than most other fighters radar.

    True, but in deep strikes against well armed opponents, they will mostly depend on themselves for protection against fighters, so very capable radar and excellent data link and SATCOM network to share situation picture will help them a lot to destroy enemy fighters from the safe distance and not to get into dogfight, although Su-34 is quite agile.
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    Post  putinboss Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:45 pm

    I think that the cockpit would look great in black
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    Post  mack8 Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:45 pm

    Just found these on bmpd, looks like brand new birds with no bort numbers yet, are the pics recent?
    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News - Page 18 0_1598be_41ff0f10_orig
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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:49 am

    Painting the cockpit black just makes it darker and harder to see buttons and displays... think of trying to read text where the text is white and the background is black.
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    Post  mack8 Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:22 pm

    Another brand new one at NAPO, April 2015:
    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News - Page 18 161572
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    Post  Cpt Caz Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:41 am

    mack8 wrote:Just found these on bmpd, looks like brand new birds with no bort numbers yet, are the pics recent?

    Pics are from late July, 2014: http://dron-nsk.livejournal.com/55266.html
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    Post  medo Wed May 20, 2015 5:51 pm

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    Su-34 with an interesting big pod, which looks like SLAR recce pod.
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    Post  mack8 Wed May 20, 2015 9:24 pm

    Nice find Medo, another pic:

    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News - Page 18 163478

    I was reading in an older article that a special reconnaissance version of Su-34 will replace Su-24MR, so probably this is the pod for Su-34R.
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    Post  George1 Thu May 21, 2015 12:56 am

    medo wrote:Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News - Page 18 16344510

    Su-34 with an interesting big pod, which looks like SLAR recce pod.

    yes suspended universal intelligence pod

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1309550.html
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    Post  Cyberspec Thu May 21, 2015 8:41 am

    It's called "Sich" and apparently back in 2011, 8 were ordered for tests on the Su-34. They come in 3 versions:

    - Radar
    - Radio/Signals
    - Opto-Electronic

    A few screenshots from an older video during production

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    Post  mack8 Thu May 21, 2015 4:38 pm

    New lot of Su-34 delivered to VVS today:
    http://www.sukhoi.org/news/company/?id=5699
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    Post  George1 Thu May 21, 2015 11:17 pm

    Yes 3 new Su-34 joined RuAF

    http://www.rg.ru/2015/05/21/samoleti-site.html
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    Post  Viktor Fri May 29, 2015 9:04 pm

    Another one thumbsup

    "Dry," the Defense Ministry gave one the newest bomber Su-34
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    Post  George1 Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:44 pm

    Source: the latest Su-34 was severely damaged during landing at Voronezh
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    Post  medo Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:54 pm

    It's damaged, but not destroyed, so it could be repaired.
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    Post  mack8 Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:23 am

    Pretty badly damaged, fins gone, nose, spine:
    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News - Page 18 _i0Zz5iSVDc
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    Post  medo Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:36 pm

    Nothing catastrophic. They will replace tires, fins, nose section and damaged parts behind cockpit and it will fly again. It seems the tires didn't make it, when the plane run off the runway.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:52 am

    At least it didn't burn...
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    Post  Stealthflanker Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:42 pm

    Status of that radar set looks awful.. hope it can be restored.

    Anyway looking at the "golden" portion of that radar set.. It seems like the V-004 Antenna.
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    Post  Cyberspec Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:23 am

    From another angle
    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News - Page 18 IppKjhzW1Ko

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    Post  2SPOOKY4U Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:43 pm

    Some very good footage in these videos



    We can see footage of the radar and some of the electronic optical systems.



    Here we see a computer monitor displaying footage from a electro-optic system from what aircraft I do not know, however it appears to be from datalink as well as radio from the aircraft.

    The most curious thing is the latter part showing footage from an aircraft moving away from the target area, the paneling is consistent with that of a Su-34(blue interior etc)

    But the Platan system cannot point backwards, targeting pod maybe? Sapsan? The Pak-Fa pod?

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