GarryB wrote: Yea, the women taking the men's places in college are also wondering about that..
You still have not answered the question why the west needs more children.
With better healthcare and more automation, families don't really need the costs involved in having lots of children.
Children are a burden and get in the way of enjoying all that life offers.
Is there or is there not a fertility crisis going on Garry??....
So you solution is more sovialism, also automation talk is about countries GDP and such, stabilizing you population so you don't need to mass import is another matter, which automation cannot solve.
Is this what Nietzsche called the Last Man position?
A yes the single mother pandemic , causing the crime wave pandemic, the problem is welfare again, without it they would think twice about divorce.
Most divorces are for good reason and prevent murders.
Many murders should be divorces buy clingy people can't see that as a better option, or understand they are the toxic one in the relationship.
Oh come the hell on Garry, you and i both know that's nonsense, with all the cash and prizes easily available to the women after the divorce, and if there's a child involved, the man will legally become her slave for 18yr at least, among other things.
The women benefits far too much in any divorce.
This red herring you came up with is nonsensical.
The West had this system for a while now Garry, where yo babies at, oh wright, they don't exists or got aborted, i wonder if these women full of "rights" have anything to do with it.
You seem to think abortions are rampant and happen only because women got the vote.
Honestly I would say before women were socially accepted as not being allowed into the work force and were economically dependent on men and with less education and less access to contraception it would be the men pushing for the inconvenient baby to be aborted rather than the mother wanting that.
Yes, it's current rampancy is indeed thanks to women voting.
To the same degree as today, not remotely likely.
They "struggle to find someone" because they keep searching for Christian Grey, and that guy is nowhere near their zip code.
Probably rather true, many women believe they deserve a 9 or a 10 with a huge salary and are prepared to give up their lives and devote all their waking hours to their devotion to their new love... the woman in question. One wonders how such a man could maintain such a salary and also commit the time needed to satisfy... but that is the advantage of fictional characters.
Well Jeff Bezos's divorce was interesting too.
You need to MAKE them settle down Garry, and the only way to do that is to eliminate their options and take their rights away.
Of course... you are the man and what you say goes... soon followed by the comment that they are an independent woman... and they go.
If you want to use force traditionally they let you because they are so in love... or they poison you and inherit all your stuff.
Ok, then keep your status quo, circumstances or someone else will "MAKE" them settle regardless, you know, after everything comes crashing down.
And i am telling you that world is soon coming to an end..... fall of empires bring great change.
The world will only end once. This are going to change, the west is going to lose a lot of the influence it has enjoyed over the last few centuries, but it wont disappear.
Its propaganda machine will keep pumping out shit for decades to come and it will trick any country it can, but countries are seeing through the shit and only the corrupt are drawn to that sort of BS in the hopes of swindling the old hustler, but that is easier said than done.
Russia and China have played well and in the end it is the west pushing itself away from them which makes things so much easier.
No, but it's power will, what??... did you actually believe countries giving women rights were independent decisions, think again.
So to you, after the fall, the West's propaganda and NGO arms will still be active???.... how??.... with what money??
They would be too busy sorting their own house (if they still have a house), to continue to project their influence globally would not be possible.
True.
The "birds and the bee's" Garry, you can't change that, so hard decisions are going to have to be made.
You have been able to become a dad without ever seeing the mother for a very long time now, and mothers can be mothers without men too.
There is no question raising a child is a two person job, but whether one is a man and one is a woman or both are men or both are women is not documented fact just yet.
Used to be it took a whole village to raise children with women in the group working together to raise the children and men of the group working to improve things for everyone.
But US consumerism and the me me me society means it is all about me and what I want, but of course they don't want to work and want things handed to them like people on the TV seem to have.
Not without the man's money apparently.
Actually single father households do just as well as 2 parent households, the Right in the West have been playing this "single parent household" game for a long time, because single mothers greatly outnumber single father household it completely skews the statistics in the Right's favor, but when you actually look into it, it tell another story.
And why did the women stay in the village, because the men made them, they were dependent on the men, they wanted the men to be "responsible" for them, ergo the men wielded "authority" over them, but now all women need is the State.
And once the State becomes powerful enough, it will also wield "absolute authority" over these women, there's always a price to pay.
I remember Christchurch and your pathetic Prime minister in her Hijab, on her knees begging the Muslims not to burn it all down, what a joke.
No, I am sure you would be celebrating the murder of non white non christians because it makes the population more pure... because abortion is murder but shooting someone is natural selection?
Or is abortion OK if certain ethnic groups can have it?
Its all natural selection, as in you are selecting yourself to either be replaced or purged, that's what you're voting for, well your women are anyway.
My bet would be on the socialist take over of New Zealand, but the jury is still out, we gonna have to wait and see how you fall.
Your bets mean nothing at all, if you think a government has no responsibility to protect and look after the people then you probably agree with Hitler... kill the retards and the cripples and the not quite white enough people and of course anyone who mentions communism... etc etc etc.
The government is just a mafia with a fancy name, once they accrue enough power, they will send many to meet the wall, Australia already have their camps ready, and all i hear from the people their is that they are not getting killed, YET.
I wouldn't hold out much hopes for NZ.
Hahaha.... those stupid communist countries, both those countries were taken over by communists during their time of upheavals.
The fact is that communism was an improvement for both countries except the implementation of communism was about as broken as the current implementation of democracy in the west currently is.
Purges, Famines, mass destruction and deaths, sure, after all the killing, "The Party" would eventually have to accept that their ideological delusions would not work in reality and adjust to some extent.
Well democracy was always meant to fail, that's why the founding fathers built a republic not a democracy, and also why the West kept promoting democracy, it was to keep everyone down so they could rule.
What is happening today is people slowly voting themselves into communism thanks to the bribe of ever expanding welfare, ala Social Democracy.
Every man for themselves consumerism and money worship over people and over values is the real problem with the west but you are blaming the fact that they are becoming communist.
There is an african proverb, if you want go fast go by yourself, if you want to go far go with a group.
The west is going fast but is not going very far.
Cooperation and working together is the solution... BRICS is the solution.
Ah yes, the man needs to do something for nothing and serve the State or the women, this rightwing meme again.
Face it, no money, no service, its as simple as that.
Not if that group is unwittingly marching into the Gulags, or as the redpill guys would say, bluepilled sheep proudly marching into the slaughter.
So long the West loses its global influence, it will take feminism, progressivism and egalitarianism with it, it's all just western money and NGOs, its all astroturf, its all just the West shaping things into their own image.
Yes, but BRICS is not about shaping the world into your image, quite the opposite.
The Right usually say that "you can vote yourself into communism, but you are going to have to shoot your way out of it",
Who the **** would listen to the right... those cunts think adolph had the right idea but didn't follow through properly...
Not talking about the adolf right, but the tradcon cuckservative right.
Like i said Garry, this b^tch is gonna crash and crash hard.
There are likely plenty of women who have daddy issues who would love to take you home to meet daddy, western selfishness and propaganda is at the core of why they need to go, but the idea that a woman is an appendage for a man and has no more right to vote than a mans left foot is simply nonsense... under communism in the east and the west women get the vote and that is not going to change any time soon.
Any political party you might want to start that says women wont get the vote will get no votes.
Nonsense only to you i am afraid, in the past it was the norm.
I already posted the Xi article and all other "votes" are pretty much show votes.
Like i said, its going to be long and painful wait, because of how sacred this cow is to you and others like you, so "change" is going to happen the hard way.
Then that political system is not fit for purpose and will also fall, than again you are just assuming they would get no votes, in S.Korea the anti-feminist candidate got a lot of votes and won, sadly like Trump, the rest of the political system crashed any hopes of getting anything done, so goodbye S.Korea, enjoy the decline.
Aah yes, the "1%" shtick, when are socialists gonna get over that sh^t.
Yes, you are being a good sheep... rich people don't exist in the west, they only exist in Russia because the word for them is oligarch. Rich people do not manipulate politicians by funding their campaigns to then use that leverage to then earn even more money or eliminate competition... because that would be undemocratic and in the US and the west it is your vote that matters... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Have you ever thought that they have to pay-off the politicians, because if they don't they would have a litany of 3-letter agencies up their a$$.
Yes, they also exchange favors too, but at the end of the day, they are simply paying off the Mafia, and the Mafia is the one that wields the real power.
What is the Final Arbiter Garry, it is force, it is violence.
Who has all the guns Garry, who has the military Garry, who has numerous agencies ready to breakdown your door and shoot you in the face Garry.
I am tired of this socialist fearmongering of "the 1%".
Well these are the last days of the empire, so they're just milking it for all its worth before they make a run it.
They are not going to disappear, they will pick up and move or build big fences around their properties... sounds like the Rock and Oprah are already doing that in Hawaii...
They certainly wont spend money helping the poor or the masses unless they get a bit of publicity doing that in the hopes of making even more money.
Those 2 are gonna need to move way further than Hawaii
Nah. nah, nah, they are just pillaging the treasury, before it all come crashing down.
"The poor" need to get their sh^t together, not rely on government welfare and then voting for more.
The poor often work three or four different jobs to pay the bills which just keep coming.
You can't save them all Garry, especially if they don't wanna save themselves, just vote for more free gibs and rely on that, right?
Aren't their more Chinese billionaires than Western ones these days??
China has more of everything... except black people in jail...
aren't their plenty of muslims in jail, can't remember what they're called there.
Yes, that is their grand plan, but in Afghanistan's case, even if they wanted to salvage it, they simply didn't have the means to do so.
It was a lost cause.
Are you trying to say they wanted to help Afghanistan?
The cause was to extract mineral wealth out of the country... as far as they are concerned they couldn't give a shit if the whole country collapsed on itself and everyone suffered horrible deaths.
Help??... no, not have their illusion of empire be stripped by an embarrassing defeat.
they simply didn't have the means anymore to prevent that, Iraq will be a similar story.
The last dying gasp of an empire are somewhat dangerous, choosing instead to nuke it all instead of accepting the empire's end.
The 1% are mobile and can move if they need to. Actually that would be funny if the US decided to have a tax on exporting money... quite a few American billionaires decided a while back to move to nice safe New Zealand... up Central Otago... I am sure the American government will be looking for ways to stop that or at least to make sure a lot of their money stays in the US.
Yes the 1% again can move, but the Elites are a different story, although many are also planning to leave, there are a bunch of dementia ridden sore losers who would sooner burn it all than let it fall.
Yes many did chose NZ as their escape plan, but they forgot to take into account of NZ turning into an authoritarian sideshow.
They are already doing that, if you try to get rid of your citizenship and move to a more money friendly country, they take a massive amount of your money, sorta like divorce, as in a divorce from the U.S government.
They're either going to get purged by the communists or die in the wars, they're soft, what do you expect was going to happen to them?
It is the tough manly men that go to wars... and where are all these communists coming from?
Colleges mostly.
After all the fools are dead, The Party will focus on "stability", what do you think the party will do with collapsing birth rates, they are going to deal with the women problem and "solve" it.
It was not the 1% that started this woke nonsense, it was the Obama administration, the progressive nonsense worked great to keep the right in check, so they liked using it, now it snowballed into our current situation.
The 1% approve of anything that distracts others from the fact that they don't actually have a democracy when money can decide who gets elected it is not democracy.
No, it was Obama, it happened around the same time he came to office and we know damn well who gives the media orders, remember Russiagate, all that nonsense, it was the Dems.
Did money win Trump the Election, no it did not, but it does help.
After all, the media only follows the Dems orders, not so much the 1%.
Who do you think the 1% are? Most are likely dems, but of course some will be republicans, the point is that the media moguls are part of the 1% and it is not in their interests to bet on one side or the other... to ensure they get their way and remain untouched they need to bribe both sides which is what they do.
Easy enough when there are only two options for America to choose each time.
So the 1% need to bribe the 1%, what??
They need to bribe, because that's the only way they remain untouched.
Either women lose the vote or embrace something other than democracy, you can either have democracy without universal suffrage or universal suffrage without democracy.
The only country that seems to have real democracy is Russia right now, all the senate and congress and the two party system in the US means they don't have democracy and never did.
According to western values the west should be right behind BRICS and in face BRICS should not have been necessary because the west would not have been ripping off the rest of the world, it would have been cooperation and growth and development and lending a helping hand to other countries to help them develop and grow and in return they would help you grow and develop too, when it actual fact as we see with Russia and China and Iran and Cuba and North Korea and so many other countries any time they showed independence or growth the west has tried to cripple them and destroy their economies and damage them militarily.
The west cannot be trusted... they will have your children digging in the dirt 16 hours a day finding gold and diamonds for which they will pay you a dollar a week and earn millions from what your children dig up.
They are scum.
Russia is in the early stages, sorta like a honeymoon period, mostly thanks to Putin holding the reins.
Once we enter the post-Putin era, you will see women voting for stupid nonsense and politician expanding the welfare state to keep winning votes.
Russia will suffer the same disease as the West.
Values are whatever the hell serves their self-interest needs it to be.
Such are empires, always paranoid and desperate to stop any rising competitor.
True...., that's mostly Africa's fault.
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