JohninMK wrote: ucmvulcan wrote:
Looks like a pot hole in the upper midwest in the US. That thing will be open in a couple hours
Yup, some shuttering underneath, some rebar plus a few loads of redimix concrete. Sort it properly after the SMO has ended.
It does not look like a Storm Shadow aftermath, first of all. It carries a 400+ kg warhead ...
The hole is almost identical to the ones made earlier in Artemovsky bridge with HIMARS.
lyle6 wrote:[
The T-84 is garbage.
Firepower is dogshit: Ukraine lacks the metallurgical expertise to produce a decent high-pressure smoothbore gun. The "KBA-3" can barely shoot the 40 year old 3BM42 subcaliber - and don't get me started on the ammunition. The basic T-72B3 btw, is armed with a modern 2A46M-5 gun and can fire the latest subcaliber shells except for those specifically designed for the T-14. Yes, the baseline Russian tank is far more lethal than Ukraine's best.
Armor is also crap. Ukraine's brand of ERA has shown poor effectiveness in actual combat compared to the old Soviet solutions - which is why most of their tanks use Kontakt-1 and Kontakt-5 instead of that garbage Nizh that only works in "tests". They also, don't weigh a **** ton that you have to remove the composite armor just to make the weight cut. Literal retard design bureau hours in Kharkov...
You are obviously mixing things, me thinks.
Like combining features of different versions.
T-84 Oplot was nothing other than Obiekt 478DU4 - modified T-80UD with increased localization. The difference was the KBA3 gun, better LLLTV channel, and additional monitor with ballistic data, and 6TD-2 engine of 1200HP.
It retained Kontakt 5, still it was still rearranged and supposed to be produced locally.
By saying it is crap, you are scrapping the T-80U and UD along
As for the early 90s standard, it was a fine tank.
For a tender in Greece, new version was constructed - T-84M. This one got a welded turret and Ukrainian Nozh ERA panels, with additional side skirts that were both thicker and wider. An alignment system of the gun and optical scope axis was installed. Thermo channel replaced LLLTV. This was a version that participated in two world tenders. Lost the one in Malesia to Polish PT-91M, and the one in Turkey was cancelled. Version for Turkey was using KBM-2 120 mm gun made for standard NATO ammo, and a new autoloader.
Objectively speaking, Obiekt 478DU9-1 and 478DU10, with PNK-6 panoramic sight and powerpack is better in some aspects than all Russian mods other than T-90M. Starting with reverse gears
(a joke, you know?)
What was a problem, was the fact that Ukraine was not able to finance the project properly, ending up with a whole of 11 pcs ever produced. Out of which, four were sold to the US (two of those with Drozd APS system), one was rebuilt as Jatagan with 120 mm KBM-2 gun, and one was kept in Kiev armed forces academy, leaving a whole 5 pcs in ranks.
And a few Oplot M has been included in the arms plan only after 2009 ...
From 2011 perspective, this Thai version was not a bad choice in 50t class.
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