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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
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diabetus wrote:This was just another recon in force.
Its going to be Kursk again. Except not even Panzers got their teeth kicked in on day one like this.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
GunshipDemocracy Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:46 am
diabetus wrote:This was just another recon in force.
Couple of recons and there wil lnot be any forces left
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
Arkanghelsk Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:09 am
Ukraine is getting lit up
Reports that one of the AFU strong points, in the village of Novoselka, Ukrainian controled part of Donetsk region, was hit by almost 15 500kg FAB-500 glide bombs.
The amount of damage is currently unknown.
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15 bombs... it's absolutely hell
And Kiev is getting kalibrated , they are getting swamped
Reports that one of the AFU strong points, in the village of Novoselka, Ukrainian controled part of Donetsk region, was hit by almost 15 500kg FAB-500 glide bombs.The amount of damage is currently unknown.
@DDGeopolitics
15 bombs... it's absolutely hell
And Kiev is getting kalibrated , they are getting swamped
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That frontal picture seems to be fake, but top one is real (according to Russian sources) Marines said that they will burn the tank down if they won’t be able extract it.
If I was lancet operator, I would aim for left rear end roof for fireworks.
The orcs know the Russians are keen to get such things... I would seriously check it for booby traps before I did anything with it... including draining and inspecting the fuel tanks for time bombs.
So these pictures and the video… it’s not a Leo, but 3 AMX-10RC abandoned. Explains the weird camo.
No point capturing really.
Check for traps and then put it in the collection... it is going to make an excellent exhibit.
This was just another recon in force.
Probably true, but there is no evidence of the Russian forces being stretched to deal with these little probes and the Russians no doubt have mobile forces they can move to different locations as they are needed... perhaps these probes are intended to get those forces moved away from the intended target, which I suspect will either be the NPP or Crimea... if you are going to jump off a waterfall you might as well pick the biggest and most impressive waterfall to drown in.
The goal of the real offensive will be to concetrate so many armoured and non armoured targets on a narrow area of front line so that some will get through as the enemy run out of ammo in such a target rich environment...
Of course glide bombs with cluster munition warheads means you can release four or five bombs into each quarter of a field the enemy is crossing and cover the area in HE Frag sub munitions in one go... no where to hide... a real blood bath.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
Stealthflanker Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:56 am
Nova Kakhova dam got blown up.
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1665904490187485185
Shit's really gotten severe. Half of Kherson city will be gone, Crimea may suffer another water starvation due to lowering water level in the reservoir it may also threaten Energodar's spent fuel pool and cooling.
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1665904490187485185
Shit's really gotten severe. Half of Kherson city will be gone, Crimea may suffer another water starvation due to lowering water level in the reservoir it may also threaten Energodar's spent fuel pool and cooling.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
sundoesntrise Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:00 am
So Ukraine bombed the dam at Nova Kahkova thereby flushing Russia's defensive positions alongside the Dniepr into the Black Sea and potentially threatening the lives of thousand of civilians.
Cucktin will do nothing (aside from the usual babble about 'red lines' and 'Ukrainian terrorism') and the shills covering him on low traffic fora will present it as a win.
You can take that to the bank
Cucktin will do nothing (aside from the usual babble about 'red lines' and 'Ukrainian terrorism') and the shills covering him on low traffic fora will present it as a win.
You can take that to the bank
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
sundoesntrise Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:03 am
Stealthflanker wrote:Nova Kakhova dam got blown up.
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1665904490187485185
Shit's really gotten severe. Half of Kherson city will be gone, Crimea may suffer another water starvation due to lowering water level in the reservoir it may also threaten Energodar's spent fuel pool and cooling.
Kherson has been largely evacuated since the Russian withdrawal last year.
This is the level of dedication Ukraine is conveying. They are literally prepared to flood their own cities in order to deny Russia from achieving wins on a strategic/tactical level.
Meanwhile Cucktin has barely moved past the 'Partners in Kiev and the West' stage.
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Is anyone else curious about where the rest of the Russian forces are... including the so called 150K 'reserve' from the mobilization? Supposedly they were either in Belarus, near Sumy or Belgorod... though the Belgorod border seems to be largely undefended (or Russia is hiding an Army size force give or take further back).
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sundoesntrise wrote:So Ukraine bombed the dam at Nova Kahkova thereby flushing Russia's defensive positions alongside the Dniepr into the Black Sea and potentially threatening the lives of thousand of civilians.
Cucktin will do nothing (aside from the usual babble about 'red lines' and 'Ukrainian terrorism') and the shills covering him on low traffic fora will present it as a win.
You can take that to the bank
Well, we know where they won't attack. Also, this looks like the offensive has all but died, but salo Uzhinat
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sundoesntrise wrote:Stealthflanker wrote:Nova Kakhova dam got blown up.
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1665904490187485185
Shit's really gotten severe. Half of Kherson city will be gone, Crimea may suffer another water starvation due to lowering water level in the reservoir it may also threaten Energodar's spent fuel pool and cooling.
Kherson has been largely evacuated since the Russian withdrawal last year.
This is the level of dedication Ukraine is conveying. They are literally prepared to flood their own cities in order to deny Russia from achieving wins on a strategic/tactical level.
Meanwhile Cucktin has barely moved past the 'Partners in Kiev and the West' stage.
If you were preparing an offensive, why would you flood the land? This is scorched earth. As Woodrow Wilson once said, don't interfere with your enemy when he is destroying himself. Its almost comedic how Ukraine is shooting itself in the foot, but hear you are dooming. You get paid for it?
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dionis wrote:Is anyone else curious about where the rest of the Russian forces are... including the so called 150K 'reserve' from the mobilization? Supposedly they were either in Belarus, near Sumy or Belgorod... though the Belgorod border seems to be largely undefended (or Russia is hiding an Army size force give or take further back).
Where it needs to be to assist the Ukrehrmacht with its desire to commit mass suicide.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
sundoesntrise Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:11 am
ucmvulcan wrote:sundoesntrise wrote:So Ukraine bombed the dam at Nova Kahkova thereby flushing Russia's defensive positions alongside the Dniepr into the Black Sea and potentially threatening the lives of thousand of civilians.
Cucktin will do nothing (aside from the usual babble about 'red lines' and 'Ukrainian terrorism') and the shills covering him on low traffic fora will present it as a win.
You can take that to the bank
Well, we know where they won't attack. Also, this looks like the offensive has all but died, but salo Uzhinat
Dams like Nova Kahkovka are protected by the laws of war and the Geneva convention for a reason. According to Article 56 of the 1977 Additional Protocol I:
“Works and installations containing dangerous forces, namely dams, dykes and nuclear electrical generating stations, shall not be made the object of attack, even where these objects are military objectives, if such attack may cause the release of dangerous forces and consequent severe losses among the civilian population. Other military objectives located at or in the vicinity of these works or installations shall not be made the object of attack if such attack may cause the release of dangerous forces from the works or installations and consequent severe losses among the civilian population
What comes after intentionally trying to drown thousands of civilians? A dirty bomb or intentionally sabotaging the plants in Energodar?
Shills will keep on defending Russian inaction and lack of deterrence build up.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
Arkanghelsk Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:16 am
It's a genius move by the MOD to have pulled from Kherson
Shoigu and Gerasimov have shut all the bloggers up today
Had the army remained in kherson we would be talking about the isolation of an entire grouping of forces
If energodar will dry out , then it means that they will go for the obvious targets - the low hanging fruit north of the dam, they will go for the nuclear power plant as soon as it dries
We could see the first nuclear explosion event of the war soon
Shoigu and Gerasimov have shut all the bloggers up today
Had the army remained in kherson we would be talking about the isolation of an entire grouping of forces
If energodar will dry out , then it means that they will go for the obvious targets - the low hanging fruit north of the dam, they will go for the nuclear power plant as soon as it dries
We could see the first nuclear explosion event of the war soon
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Arkanghelsk wrote:It's a genius move by the MOD to have pulled from Kherson
Shoigu and Gerasimov have shut all the bloggers up today
Had the army remained in kherson we would be talking about the isolation of an entire grouping of forces
If energodar will dry out , then it means that they will go for the obvious targets - the low hanging fruit north of the dam, they will go for the nuclear power plant as soon as it dries
We could see the first nuclear explosion event of the war soon
The real question then is, why cross that bridge (literally) in the first place?
Did they think they'd roll over Zaporozhye that fast?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
Arkanghelsk Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:40 am
No the real question is why Ukraine would blow up its own infrastructure and flood its own city
The answer is simple, they do not expect to regain any territory,
They only expect to stage propaganda headlines to steal more aid - hence why they will go for ZNPP
It's gonna get blown up, because once VKS blows the VSU apart like it did today, they will go for exactly the kind of action they took today
Can't take territory? Blow up the dam
Can't push into Zaporozhye? Irradiate the land
It's a repetitive and expected process
All Russia will do is focus its forces along even narrower fronts, as Ukraine makes MOD life simpler with every imbecilic action they take
They are literally narrowing the areas where MOD can expect any attacks
The answer is simple, they do not expect to regain any territory,
They only expect to stage propaganda headlines to steal more aid - hence why they will go for ZNPP
It's gonna get blown up, because once VKS blows the VSU apart like it did today, they will go for exactly the kind of action they took today
Can't take territory? Blow up the dam
Can't push into Zaporozhye? Irradiate the land
It's a repetitive and expected process
All Russia will do is focus its forces along even narrower fronts, as Ukraine makes MOD life simpler with every imbecilic action they take
They are literally narrowing the areas where MOD can expect any attacks
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
flamming_python Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:10 am
Shame about Kherson
But it's a Ukrainian-held city, inhabited probably still by some idiots who support it in the war, with other idiots originally from it having accepted evacuation to other parts of the Ukraine and who have continued to support it in the war as well.
And now they had their homes flooded by their own army. And you can't even call it scorched Earth - Russia wasn't advancing there, instead this is the price they get to pay for being 'liberated' by the Ukraine. Think they feel stupid yet?
For Russia it means rather nothing at the moment, other than the secondary implications for the Zaporozhie NPP as others have pointed out.
It will of course mean a lot more work and expense when Russia retakes Kherson and the surroundings, but that's okay, it can just take some extra territory off the Ukraine to compensate for this little incident too.
But it's a Ukrainian-held city, inhabited probably still by some idiots who support it in the war, with other idiots originally from it having accepted evacuation to other parts of the Ukraine and who have continued to support it in the war as well.
And now they had their homes flooded by their own army. And you can't even call it scorched Earth - Russia wasn't advancing there, instead this is the price they get to pay for being 'liberated' by the Ukraine. Think they feel stupid yet?
For Russia it means rather nothing at the moment, other than the secondary implications for the Zaporozhie NPP as others have pointed out.
It will of course mean a lot more work and expense when Russia retakes Kherson and the surroundings, but that's okay, it can just take some extra territory off the Ukraine to compensate for this little incident too.
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Cucktin will do nothing
Don't worry mate, I am sure he will rush there to be by your side and you lie down in the path of the flowing water to save those downstream...
Is anyone else curious about where the rest of the Russian forces are... including the so called 150K 'reserve' from the mobilization? Supposedly they were either in Belarus, near Sumy or Belgorod... though the Belgorod border seems to be largely undefended (or Russia is hiding an Army size force give or take further back).
Obviously the amazing HATO intel will know where each soldier is and their tax number....
Sounds like a desperate measure of a beaten foe.
Dams like Nova Kahkovka are protected by the laws of war and the Geneva convention for a reason. According to Article 56 of the 1977 Additional Protocol I:
But surely it is not up to a war criminals enemy to point out their war crimes, which Russia has been doing which is being ignored by the west who claims to be the international community. If the west also ignores this who will be surprised.
The Belgian actually seemed upset at evidence that Kiev was handing out weapons they had donated for the defence of the Ukraine to attack Russia.... now blowing up dams... their might be a chance for the west to save face over their failing pet and abandon them like they abandoned the Afghans fighting the Taleban and ISIS in Afghanistan.
For Russia it means rather nothing at the moment, other than the secondary implications for the Zaporozhie NPP as others have pointed out.
It will of course mean a lot more work and expense when Russia retakes Kherson and the surroundings, but that's okay, it can just take some extra territory off the Ukraine to compensate for this little incident too.
Most of the ground being fought over is going to have to be rebuilt from scratch, which is probably quicker and easier than trying to fix things half arsed.
Unless the west sent Kiev a whole lot of amphibious vehicles (and most seem to be the opposite) then Russia can expect this will reduce the enemies options for attacks, but I would still watch them very hard anyway.
With regard to water supply to Crimea, well they were working on dealing with that problem and now they can continue dealing with such problems as best they can.
Funny how a war crime by Kiev is still Putins fault.... at least they are consistent.
I hope they get bonuses for such performance written into their work contracts... wouldn't it be horrible if these people were helping Zelensky and Biden for free...
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Dam was blown up by Russian army. However it will not change anything in military terms. It is sign of desperation in my eyes.
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But if we carefully read all the info surrounding it, nobody seems to blow this thing up ...
It just disintegrated.
We had a 30-year peak in water level, and the infrastructure was miserable a year ago.
A scenario of "ugly Russkie orcs blew up, threatening civilian population" is already being played in shitstream, but the thing caught them by surprise if you ask me.
It just disintegrated.
We had a 30-year peak in water level, and the infrastructure was miserable a year ago.
A scenario of "ugly Russkie orcs blew up, threatening civilian population" is already being played in shitstream, but the thing caught them by surprise if you ask me.
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Who controlled the area where the dam is? Were there forces on both sides?
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I guess nobody "controlled" it - the operating building of the powerplant is located on the left bank of Dnepr, so Russkie controlled them. And had keys to operate the infrastructure. Object was heavily monitored, on a permanent basis. We would get some materials if there was an explosion.
The one that is being spread is fake - it is a destruction of a road bridge that happened a long time ago, about a year if I remember correctly.
Ob the other hand, as ter are tons of films emerging from the surrounding area, you can clearly see the miserable condition of all the infrastructure. Those things just fall apart in front of your eyes.
It is not war destruction, but years without maintenance. I have some hydro infrastructure nearby that was made by the nazis, and abdoned for eight decades. Looks the same way
But that is a method older than pyramids.
Have you ever considered the idiotic warrant on Putin due to "kidnappings"?
It has a sole goal only. Create a media smog to cover the fact, that a full-swing child slavery project is being carried out all across Ukronistan.
There is a mass campaign to spread shit on VVP, and at the end, even if someone will hear something about "kids issues in Ukraine", Putin the Kidnapper will be the very first thing coming to mind.
The thing will be already well covered in google and other search engines, to cover the real cases with the 12th screens of bullshit.
We had reported cases of whole orphanages going missing.
We have multiple reports about Ukrainian organized groups targeting kids for "evacuation", where nobody hears about them later.
Forceful separation of the kids and towing them in unknown.
The story is being told by the refugees from Mariopol and Artemovsk, multiple records.
On Ukro TV you can watch materials of killing children for organs in fukin hospitals!! and about parents ordering exhumations only to find that their kid is empty inside - literally.
Again, nobody would have believed in that, if aired by Russkies. But no, those are Ukrainian reporters who report the cases.
Child prostitution, illegal adoptions, black transplantation business - those are billions of worth "market", no matter if we like it or not.
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The strike of Ukrainian troops on the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station was allegedly delivered from the Alder MLRS, the administration of Nova Kakhovka told RIA Novosti
Too much fog. We must wait to see a clear picture.
The one that is being spread is fake - it is a destruction of a road bridge that happened a long time ago, about a year if I remember correctly.
Ob the other hand, as ter are tons of films emerging from the surrounding area, you can clearly see the miserable condition of all the infrastructure. Those things just fall apart in front of your eyes.
It is not war destruction, but years without maintenance. I have some hydro infrastructure nearby that was made by the nazis, and abdoned for eight decades. Looks the same way
GarryB wrote:
Funny how a war crime by Kiev is still Putins fault.... at least they are consistent.
I hope they get bonuses for such performance written into their work contracts... wouldn't it be horrible if these people were helping Zelensky and Biden for free...
But that is a method older than pyramids.
Have you ever considered the idiotic warrant on Putin due to "kidnappings"?
It has a sole goal only. Create a media smog to cover the fact, that a full-swing child slavery project is being carried out all across Ukronistan.
There is a mass campaign to spread shit on VVP, and at the end, even if someone will hear something about "kids issues in Ukraine", Putin the Kidnapper will be the very first thing coming to mind.
The thing will be already well covered in google and other search engines, to cover the real cases with the 12th screens of bullshit.
We had reported cases of whole orphanages going missing.
We have multiple reports about Ukrainian organized groups targeting kids for "evacuation", where nobody hears about them later.
Forceful separation of the kids and towing them in unknown.
The story is being told by the refugees from Mariopol and Artemovsk, multiple records.
On Ukro TV you can watch materials of killing children for organs in fukin hospitals!! and about parents ordering exhumations only to find that their kid is empty inside - literally.
Again, nobody would have believed in that, if aired by Russkies. But no, those are Ukrainian reporters who report the cases.
Child prostitution, illegal adoptions, black transplantation business - those are billions of worth "market", no matter if we like it or not.
Edit :
The strike of Ukrainian troops on the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station was allegedly delivered from the Alder MLRS, the administration of Nova Kakhovka told RIA Novosti
Too much fog. We must wait to see a clear picture.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
Podlodka77 Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:26 am
mr_hd wrote:Dam was blown up by Russian army. However it will not change anything in military terms. It is sign of desperation in my eyes.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43
Dr.Snufflebug Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:29 am
The dam could just be a freak accident (freak as in curious timing), well, caused by the Ukrainians already raising the water to dangerous levels upstream (as previously reported only days ago) so not an accident-accident, but not a bombing of the dam per se.
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If it was Ukrs who did this , then it is an own goal ! Less fresh water for agriculture , on top of Russia ending the grain deal equals economic collapse . Also as some said , this narrows their field of attack and funnels them into concentrated Russian forces in the centre . Stops hit and run attacks in the South across River . I am watching for Bridges going down , well may happen when Ukrs got their mass forces trapped in the East , in their " offensive . "
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