Russian special military operation in Ukraine #42

But still, why all the rails lines and main road are not hit daily with FAB 500's is a real mystery to me.

Podlodka77 wrote:To TMA

That's what it's all about. It is not about Ukroshitstan, Kiev, Kharkov or Odessa at all.
In fact, for 15 months the conflict in Ukroshitstan has only been about that, that is, the BIGGER conflict is being postponed.
All those who think that the Russians are retarded for not reacting to "Moscow", the Saki airport, the Crimean bridge could eventually feel the answer (the War) on their own skin or, in the best case, in their own country.
The Russians, with their non-reaction to everything mentioned, are actually saying that they are for peace and not for total war, and it is up to the West to keep that peace.

zare wrote:isn't Storm Shadow air launched? From what aircraft are they going to launch it?

JohninMK wrote:

zare wrote:isn't Storm Shadow air launched? From what aircraft are they going to launch it?

Yes. Probably the same aircraft as they use for the HARM and winged bombs. Targeting before take-off.

limb wrote:Thats it. Russian generals really want to copy the wermacht at the stalingrad flanks. ABsolutely pathetic and embarrassing.

Podlodka77 wrote:Ugh, how many rats suddenly appear on the forum.

GarryB wrote:

So allowing more of their men to die is better then the bandera supporters?

The fact of the matter is that Russian soldiers are going to die in this conflict... no matter what they do.

Massing up a huge force will just put more Russians in the way and create a target rich environment for a guerilla war that the west has been hoping for... that wont work  in the east and south of the country because the locals are less likely to support orcs that have been shelling them for the last decade, but as the Russian forces move forward they are going to come to areas where they believe the shit the west is broadcasting and they will help these terrorists and that is going to be a problem.

Another factor is that the longer this goes on the more nazis get whacked too.

If they don't deal with it properly now the west is going to build up and fund what is left and in 5 to ten years time some more young men are going to have to do this all again.

Russia is not doing this for fun, this is important and it is important they get it right.

Maybe the problem is the west thinks Putin is weak and does not have the spine, so maybe using nukes might wake them up, or it might just escalate things further.

Personally I think nukes should be kept for any HATO troops thinking they can come in and get directly involved because they would represent a direct threat to Russia which justifies the use of nukes but I hope the Russians spell that out clearly so they are not stupid enough to send in troops and require such actions in the first place.

PS did you have to repeat my entire post to make that comment?

This was one of the reasons the quote button disappeared.

The red square parade only showed one T34 Tank . Meaning the entire force is or should be deployed .

They have tens of thousands of tanks they could send to a parade and the conflict... sending a T-34 only to the parade was about the fact that this parade is about WWII nazis... not present day nazis from the west.

They are running exercises in Russia around the place all the time and those exercises use men and machines that are not being used in Ukraine or in Syria.

The tactics must change : First all civilian goods must pass by Ship , through Black Sea , or through Belarus , after inspection by Russia . The border to Poland and Romania must have all traffic stopped . All Road and Rail to be cut .Second all Bridges on Deniper must fall , all supplies to Ukrs Army in East cut .

Not really practical, the land borders are quite long and there are more than a few roads and rail lines and bridges.

They are waiting for the big Orc offensive which I suspect they intend to stop and roll back and go on an offensive themselves.

I rather suspect a naval attack on Odessa would fail, they need to attack from the land.

dionis wrote:I wonder if the Russian government here has an actual end game in mind, or if they are just winging it.

The war of attrition strategy won't work. Ukraine easily has 2.5M men (probably multiples more) to kill, and even if Russia can kill 200,000 per year, it'll take over a decade to do. Makes no sense.

So what's the play here, hope for an internal coup? Zelensky and Co have a very good grip on things - there is nothing of the sort even beginning to emerge.