Russian special military operation in Ukraine #24

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ALAMO wrote:
Oh no!
No more funny memes from #NAFO!?!
I reject!

Lira will have to write letters to the Duran. Old school.

Looks like our celebrations were premature. Already power is coming back in certain locations I'm hearing. This is not enough. Russia needs to hit them harder, knock them completely out. Not just one and done shows like tonight. I hope this continues throughout the next week otherwise tonight won't mean much.

billybatts91 wrote:Looks like our celebrations were premature. Already power is coming back in certain locations I'm hearing. This is not enough. Russia needs to hit them harder, knock them completely out. Not just one and done shows like tonight. I hope this continues throughout the next week otherwise tonight won't mean much.

No return to normal yet...the black out is still there.

diesel generators last for a bit.

The army must keep hitting Ukraine - it cannot stop

They've done interconnectors with EU grid, but hitting TPP's along with major electrical substations will still wreck havoc on the country. Next thing is to wreck refinery and underground gas storage places and make them rely completely on EU imports. You kill two flies with one shot. Drain Europe of more needed energy and push Ukraine deeper in debt.
Not insignificant is that they don't have enough diesel locomotives. Plus, you can always destroy some in train depots.

Hole wrote:

Burn, baby, burn.  

NICE! This soo lovely!

Finally the head is out of the arse and they start to crush the NAZI regime in Kiev.

limb wrote:

walle83 wrote:

limb wrote:A flight of 50 Su-24Ms with svp-24s and 6 fab 500seach, and 40 Su-34s armed with 2 KAB-1500Ss, escorted by 60 Su-30SMsshpuld be sent to bomb at least 10 of the dniepr bridges.

If Russia wants to loose half of all the aircrafts to Ukraine air defence, sure go for it.

Russians can easily jam all ukrop SAMs, and nasams can be spoofed by chaff and  evaded. The only threat is optically guided buk, but this can be  evaded by flying into clouds and going outside of its range.

Now the time of fog and low clouds is coming bye bye Ukrainian AD systems. Additional Ukrainian troops will have no cover from leaves anymore.

Azi wrote:
NICE! This soo lovely!

Finally the head is out of the arse and they start to crush the NAZI regime in Kiev.

No need to hit civilian infrastructure, but turn off the electricity, internet, airports, rail junctions, bridges, and undo Lenin's electrification of the country.  Also, knock out all government buildings (especially the parliament, Elensky, and the military, also the houses of their oligarchs and tv and radio stations are fair targets).  Nazibanderastan needs to be on fire from Lvov to Kharkov

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
9 Min.
Medvedev tonight is just the beginning, so he urged civilians to leave ukraine rain is expected on ukraine

Many years before I thought that Medvedev is a pro western traitor and a pussy. But now he has my full respect!

caveat emptor wrote:

Erk wrote:
Like I said, the map shows very little.
For all we know half the Ukrainian troops in the push might already be dead, or just a few, maps tell you very little about the battle.

Map shows line of  defense or contact, as Ru MoD sees it. I don't think Ukrainian control all of it as, for example, they still didn't enter Vovchansk per reports. But Russian army withdrew.

The battle is not about control, or occupation, it's about de-militarization and de-nazification of Ukraine.
Maps don't tell us how that is going because the military of either side can move around.
We assume it's about occupation, but that is our mistake of interpreting the stated objectives.

So Kharkov was abandoned like Sumy and Chernigov

There are strikes on some infrastructure

But no large scale hits on urban centers

So only Donetsk and Lughansk will be taken?

Now with Ukrainians consolidated their positions in Kharkov,

What stops them from throwing everything at Kherson or Lughansk?

Or Crimea for that matter?

Despite the news of hits on electrical substations and thermal plants, where does Z go from here?

Why was Kharkov difficult to defend, but not Kherson?

Arkanghelsk wrote:So Kharkov was abandoned like Sumy and Chernigov

There are strikes on some infrastructure

But no large scale hits on urban centers

So only Donetsk and Lughansk will be taken?

Now with Ukrainians consolidated their positions in Kharkov,

What stops them from throwing everything at Kherson or Lughansk?

Or Crimea for that matter?

The bulk of the Russian army in Ukraine? However, you are right, they need to set all of Ukraine on fire and they need a temporary surge.

The Russian army delivers a massive blow to targets in Kharkov and the region

Also explosions in Slavyansk and Konstantinovka

GOOD GOOD

But where is the army!? Send them in ?

mr_hd wrote:Most people here are extremely delusional.
War that Russia started in Ukraine will not be won, Russia is running out of options and its leadership is still extremely arrogant and way over confident, so the fall into reality will be more hard I am afraid.

From pure militaristic point, once one shuts down emotions, Ukrainian execution past two months is simply brilliant and Russian forces were totally outmaneuvered, outstretched and outfoxed - that is simple hard truth and situation on the front reflects that.

Be aware that Ukraine will now get more united and resolute. Their goal and position is simple- Russian forces are invading army into the teritory of soverign country, it will be kicked out and its staying on the Ukrainian soil is non negotiable. They will not give a crap what Russia will say about that and will fight till their land is free. That is message sent to Russia from the day one and Ukraine is delivering to that promise.

Who gives a crap what they give a crap about?

They will run out of cannon fodder to chuck into the furnace. It's that simple. And they are not Vietnamese or Afghans to out-breed the enemy. They are a country and people that has fallen entirely into Anglo-sponsored hedonism and worship of the leading empire on the planet; because of the greed of their elites and their acquiescence to an 'anti-Russia' role set up for them by the US since 1991.
There is no religion, no belief, no grand ideas in that society - other than the racial supremacy extremism championed by nationalists and bankrolled by oligarchs. Other than that, it's basically just the worship of the US dollar, and anything goes. Prostitution, surrogacy of children for childless American couples, hired crowds for oligarch-politicians, thugs for hire and so on.
Such a society was in deep crisis, even before the war. If there is unity, then it is based only on the whipping up of hatred by said nationalists. But that can't last. Evident when Ukrainian soldiers fall into captivity, they turn out to be quite reasonable people and all silly ideas quickly evaporate. Same with Kherson's population. No more pro-Ukr protests there; they're getting more and more used to life in the rouble-zone.

I will agree you about Russia not having clear military goals. It's something I noticed as well right from the beggining. But to be frank - with such casualty ratios it doesn't matter. As long as Russian morale doesn't falter, the Russian economy doesn't collapse, or a horde of 6th column chicken littles don't topple Putin for not fighting the war the way they believe it should be fought based on all those RTS games and so on - then Russia will win the war

Speaking of the chicken littles in this thread.
Have you all calmed down now? Russian command will decide themselves when to throw their left hook followed by a knockout blow. Not you will decide, they will decide. If you have a problem with that, go sign up to the military and attend officer academy, for a start. Then argue with your commanders and instructors there about who knows better.

About the Russian strikes on power-plants - they don't make sense as punitive or retaliatory, de-escalation strikes or whatever. That's a waste of time - all retaliation should be concentrated on the ones doing the fighting; the Ukrainian army, mercs and the nationalist battalions.
But what they do make sense for is to create an information-blackout and paralyze train transportation of manpower and materials ahead of an imminent offensive. Fingers crossed  

Alarms are down, hohols crying that air raid down

So what's the plan??? Send the army in or what

Brief summary today for lack of time and news, at least the retreat is stopped

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/09/11/parte-de-guerra-12-09-2022/

The enemy is accumulating forces in the Donetsk and Kherson directions, attempts at strikes are possible in the next 1-2 days.
In the Balakliya operation, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not use all available reserves.

Looks like the Ukrainians are massing near Vugledar and striking to Yelenovka towards Mariupol,

Also red estuary is under fire

walle83 wrote:

limb wrote:A flight of 50 Su-24Ms with svp-24s and 6 fab 500seach, and 40 Su-34s armed with 2 KAB-1500Ss, escorted by 60 Su-30SMsshpuld be sent to bomb at least 10 of the dniepr bridges.

If Russia wants to loose half of all the aircrafts to Ukraine air defence, sure go for it.

For once I actually agree with you

What kind of idiot will send planes up into the air to possibly be ambushed by Ukrainian AD systems still in hiding all just to attack static targets that any cruise missile can take out at 0 risk?

ALAMO wrote:By the way, in a case, you have missed that. It is a material RAK published today.

https://t.me/RKadyrov_95/2809

It is one of his most powerful entrances.

First, he asks why the Chechen people are so devoted to the whole Russkie family.
Because of freedom and respect, they get back.
A chance to build mosques, cheer the god they admire, and do that while being a part of a vast family of free nations that stand side by side for each other.
Nobody who watched and participated in the Chechen conflict as I had, would imagine that change.

You should live for values you can die for.

Yeah I listened to that speech earlier as well

Kadyrov certainly earns his keep. Zero criticism of him anymore in Russia, all his many internet critics and naysayers have shut up. Yeah you can whine about the billions or whatever, but Kadyrov used that money to make Grozny a beautiful modern city and Chechnya as the fastest developing federal subject of the North Caucasus.
And tourism to Chechnya has picked up, now it's regarded as still a quirky place but a part of Russia. Social attitudes towards Muslims in general have improved because with Europe all hating on us - who do we as a society turn to next other than Asia and the Muslim world?