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    New status of Peruvian politics

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:00 pm

    The article talks about the anti-business policies of those on the left when they take power is that true?

    The pro business policies of the right just let foreign rich people buy everything of value and earn a good living from it while the locals worked hard for peanuts and had no workers rights at all.

    It was the reason the people of Cuba supported Castro... they could see a future where foreign rich white people owned all the casinos and all the beaches and all the sugar plantations and their role in society was to work hard as a cabana boy that brings drinks or works in the cane fields or cleans rooms or swimming pools for the rich who get to use them... never getting any chance to own anything or do anything with their lives.

    Castro actually asked America for help first and got told they weren't interested.... the leader of the VC also went to the Americans for help from the colonial French and got no help either... and so they both turned to the Soviets who were happy to help them... but neither really cared much for communism... it was a means to remove brutal uncaring governments supported by imperial powers that were oppressing the people.... and it happens a lot in central and south america even today.

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    Post  Kiko Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:45 pm

    Peruvian President Pedro Castillo dissolves the Congress and announces a "government of exception", 12.07.2022.

    The president announced the measure hours before facing a vacancy motion in Congress for "moral incapacity."

    The president of Peru, Pedro Castillo, announced on Wednesday the establishment of an emergency government in the South American country.

    "In response to the citizen's complaint, throughout the length and breadth of the country, we took the decision to establish an emergency government aimed at restoring the rule of law and democracy," he said in a message to the nation.

    According to the president, the measure includes the temporary dissolution of Congress.

    The announcement was made just hours before facing a new vacancy motion in Parliament for "moral incapacity".

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    https://actualidad-rt.com/actualidad/451000-pedro-castillo-disolver-congreso-anunciar-estado-excepcion

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    Post  Kiko Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:37 am

    Peru's Congress ousts Pedro Castillo and Dina Boluarte assumes the Presidency, 12.07.2022.

    Previously, the Peruvian president had dissolved the chamber and announced a "government of exception".

    Peru's Congress approved on Wednesday the vacancy of President Pedro Castillo for "moral incapacity", after the president declared earlier the dissolution of parliament, in the midst of the political crisis that the country is going through. The Vice President of the Republic, Dina Boluarte, will be at the head of the Executive.

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    https://actualidad-rt.com/actualidad/451017-congreso-peru-destituir-castillo-aumentar-tension

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    Post  franco Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:21 am

    Read 101 out of 130 voted for the impeachment... not aware of all the why's but that sounds pretty united.

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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:44 am

    The legislatures are usually the ones that are corrupt and co-opted by the elites. Khodorkovsky tried to do this in Russia via the
    buying and selling of Duma deputies. So what we have in Peru is a coup against the legitimate president. Impeachment is a
    total farce. It has never been applied to removing bad leaders. See the story with Biden and Trump.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:23 am

    The other Franco might approve... Very Happy Razz
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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:29 pm

    Legislature body is the only branch that the common people may have the chance to send their representative there. People in the executive and judicial body are mostly specialist participated mainly via appointment and recruitment from above, hence raise the chance that they devolved in to a privileged class, separated from and standing above the common people.

    In a true democracy, legislature bodies at all levels and form must be expanded to include representative of common laborers such as blue-collars or small peasants, so that they can increase their influence in the law-making process and effectivelyb supervise the works of executive and judicial branchs.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Dec 08, 2022 2:34 pm

    In a true democracy, legislature bodies at all levels and form must be expanded to include representative of common laborers such as blue-collars or small peasants, so that they can increase their influence in the law-making process and effectivelyb supervise the works of executive and judicial branchs.

    And if you don't do that those in power separate themselves from the people they claim to represent and they build gated communities with fences and guards to keep the normal people out and they can pretend all sorts of things as they pass laws to make their rich friends richer...

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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:51 pm

    New president is leftist too. Peruvian politics are very fragmented the last decade, so no surprise for me.


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    Post  Kiko Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:45 am

    Mexico, Colombia, Argentina and Bolivia consider Pedro Castillo president of Peru, 12.12.2022.

    The governments of Mexico, Colombia, Argentina and Bolivia will issue a statement affirming that they consider Pedro Castillo as the legitimate president of Peru.

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    https://sputniknewsbrasil.com.br/20221212/mexico-colombia-argentina-e-bolivia-consideram-pedro-castillo-presidente-do-peru-26394282.html

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    Post  Kiko Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:14 pm

    Peru's Ex-President Castillo Says US Ordered That Troops Be Deployed to Suppress Protests, 12.16.2022.

    MEXICO CITY (Sputnik) - The Peruvian authorities have taken troops to the streets to suppress protests after the visit of the US ambassador to the Government Palace as Washington pursues profits in the country's mining projects, impeached President Pedro Castillo said on Thursday.

    "Compatriots, attention! The visit of the US ambassador to the Government Palace was neither for free nor in favor of the country. At the meeting, the order to take the troops to the streets and massacre my defenseless people was given, and, among other things, to pave the way for the extraction of minerals, such as from Konga, Tai Maria, and other [mines]. Peruvian media will not only keep silent about this but will also easily deny it," Castillo said in a hand-written note published on his Twitter.

    On December 7, Peru's parliament impeached former President Pedro Castillo. Prime Minister Dina Boluarte took an oath as the country's new president within two hours of the impeachment vote, vowing to serve out the rest of Castillo's term until July 2026. Castillo, who had tried to dissolve the parliament before the vote, was arrested after the impeachment procedure and the Peruvian prosecutor's office launched a criminal case against him on charges of a coup attempt and crimes against the state.

    These events have sparked a wave of protests across the country. Demonstrators denounce the post-impeachment government and call for an immediate presidential election and termination of the country's parliament.

    On Thursday, the Peruvian Supreme Court approved the pre-trial detention of Castillo for 18 months, following the request of Supreme Prosecutor Uriel Teran on Wednesday.

    https://sputniknews.com/20221216/perus-ex-president-castillo-says-us-ordered-that-troops-be-deployed-to-suppress-protests-1105507904.html

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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:12 pm

    US sponsored "democracy" in action. This was a brazen coup and the repression is kicking in. Ukraine saw the same thing in 2014.
    Street lemmings are scum, whore legislators are scum as well.

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    Post  Kiko Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:49 pm

    The US reiterates its support for the Boluarte government in a telephone conversation, 12.17.2022.

    Previously, the dismissed President Pedro Castillo denounced that the visit of the U.S. ambassador in Lima, Lisa Kenna, to the Government Palace last Tuesday "was to give the order to take the troops to the streets and massacre the defenseless people."

    The President of Peru, Dina Boluarte, had a telephone conversation with the US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, on Friday.

    "The president of the Republic, Dina Boluarte, spoke by phone with the Secretary of State of the White House, Antony Blinken, who reiterated the support of the United States to the government he leads," the Twitter account of the Presidency of Peru communicated.

    Previously, the dismissed President Pedro Castillo denounced that the visit of the U.S. ambassador in Lima, Lisa Kenna, to the Government Palace last Tuesday "was not free, nor in favor of the country."

    "It was to give the order to take the troops out into the streets and massacre my defenseless people; and, incidentally, to leave the road free for mining operations, as is the case of Conga, Tia Maria and others," the politician wrote in a letter.

    In this context, the Peruvian Congress rejected this day the constitutional reform that sought to advance the general elections for 2023. Meanwhile, the massive protests that arose after the vacancy of Pedro Castillo and the swearing-in of Vice President Boluarte, as the new president of the country, continue. The violent demonstrations have already resulted in about 20 deaths.

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    https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/452202-eeuu-reitera-respaldo-gobierno-boluarte
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    Post  franco Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:17 am

    Map shows international reaction to condemnation or support for the coup d'état in Peru in the Western Hemisphere. The reds are for Castillo, and the blues are for his opponents. Brazil is undecided, as it itself is undergoing a process of regime change.

    https://twitter.com/apocalypseos/status/1604219877547732992/photo/1
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    Post  Kiko Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:25 am

    From the dismissal of Castillo to repression: how the right wing consummated the 'coup' in Peru, by Ociel Alí López for actualidad.RT. 12.19.2022.

    With the latest decisions of the Congress to reject an advance in the elections, while, in parallel, the militarization of the conflict decreed by President Dina Boluarte is advancing, the social forces of conservatism have finished the creation of a post-democratic regime.

    That is to say, we are no longer talking only about the parliamentary overthrow of the president elected by popular will, but about the establishment of an authoritarian regime without legitimacy of origin: a dictatorship.

    The strong repression that has already caused more than twenty deaths, as well as the speeches of criminalization against peaceful demonstrations, offer a dictatorial profile to an executive who boasts of acting for three years but who does not have the minimum legitimacy to perpetuate himself.

    "Peruvian conservatism is debating between whether to go to a conditional election and hand over power again to Fujimorismo or stay holding Boluarte for this long period."

    These days of forceful, massive and multiplied protests throughout the country have forced the de facto government to reveal that the overthrow of Castillo is not only a legislative act, but has a military support that is being deployed to the extent that citizens protest against a repressive regime that, in addition, has as expiration date a distant 2025.

    The Fujimorism

    The situation is becoming more complex due to the fact that the radical right sectors configured in Fujimorismo may want early elections in which, without the competence of the dismissed President Pedro Castillo, Keiko Fujimori can finally access the Presidency, after losing two rounds in 2021 to Castillo.

    In this way, Peruvian conservatism is debating between whether to go to a conditional election (with the judicialized leftists) and hand over power again to Fujimorismo, which has always been its most extreme sector although very discredited, or stay supporting Boluarte for this long period.

    But the levels of rejection of Congress, which is where the main decisions on the country's leadership are made, are increasing and any candidacy that flies the flag of "closing the Congress", Castillo's controversial measure, can win the next elections.

    However, such a scenario, electoral, is not expected so soon. Several political actors have warned that 2023 is a key year for Peru in terms of exploration and exploitation contracts of different resources with foreign companies.

    "To prepare the stage for persecution, the media machinery, including the international one, has resurrected the cold war methods to accuse the protesters of vandals."

    If the current Congress has the political control and the support of the Armed Forces, surely the legislators that make up the majority will feel able to get through the coming year – full of agreements and long–term signatures with extractivist companies - without having to give in to convening new presidential ones.

    With the control of the Congress and the Armed Forces, it is enough for the Lima oligarchy to maintain power and increase police persecution and military repression.

    'Terruqueo' as a form of government

    To prepare the stage for persecution, the media machinery, including the international one, has resurrected the cold war methods of accusing the protesters of "vandals".

    'Terruqueo' is the form as it is called in Peru to the criminalization for political reasons. With popular sectors protesting, the establishment media have once again recalled the acronym of the extremist Sendero Luminoso to link the protesters to terrorism.

    Aligned with this new scenario imposed by the Peruvian right, various international media have gone on not only to recognize the overthrow of the president elected by popular will, but also to legitimize the massacres that are taking place and those that could occur if the powers that be do not yield to the democratic demands of their population.

    The only thing that could change this scenario is the strength of the mobilized actors, something that will be known in the coming days.

    Yandex Translate from Spanish

    https://actualidad.rt.com/opinion/ociel-ali-lopez/452506-destitucion-castillo-represion-derecha-consumar-golpe-peru

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    Post  Kiko Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:41 am

    Russia should adopt a more firm position on the events in Peru. Pedro Castillo suffered a coup from the corrupt Peruvian Congress along the lines of the Brazilian coup against former President Dilma Rousseff after the disclosure of corrupt Brazilian engineering companies meddling in practically all Latin American countries such as Odebrecht and Andrade Gutierrez. That's the reason why Celso Amorim's Brazilian foreign policy has been so mute on recent events in Lima. 
    While Mexico City and Bogota have adopted an energetic criticism of Dina Boluarte, Brazilian Itamaraty has been condescendent towards her, which is an outright scandal.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:22 pm

    Russia doesn't have to do anything here. Peru is not going to decide the course of the Russia-West or even BRICS-West competition one way or the other.

    What will happen though is that the coup'd leader will make a comeback, as Morales did in Bolivia, as he has a genuine groundswell of support in the country. Thus the US has only sowed the seeds for its own demise abroad, again.

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