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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:17 pm

    After months of bashing Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine, Western journalists in Moscow line up to be inoculated against Covid-19

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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:34 pm



    As posted above, we have brazen revisionism from western lie factory hacks. A clown from the New York Slimes, Andrew Cramer,
    took the Sputnik V vaccine and wrote an article claiming that the NATzO fake stream media never attacked the vaccine itself
    and that its reputation was ruined by Putin.

    Yeah...

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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:43 pm

    Sujoy wrote:What is weird is the speed at which a vaccine was developed for COVID-19.

    Millions of people are dying due to cancer and AIDS for the last five or six decades and yet till date we neither have a cure nor a vaccine for these diseases.

    This is a vapid plausibility "argument". The Russian vaccine is a derivative of the MARS vaccine on which the particular
    research institute that produced Sputnik V was working on for years. Also, a vaccine is viral genetic material distributed
    via vectors. The human adenovirus vectors used in the Sputnik V vaccine have been employed since the 1950s. So
    the task was to isolate effective components of SARS-CoV-2. Given MARS is a closely related virus, there was enough
    guidance to do this.

    And frankly, internet experts would have no informed way to judge the speed of viral component isolation. So such hand
    waving is BS.

    Then we have the inane comparison of cancer cures with vaccines. Are you for real? Cancer cells are rogue human cells
    so trying to develop a vaccine for them is beyond difficult. Unless you think that death from a complex autoimmune syndrome
    is not an issue for a "cure".

    As for HIV, it varies faster than influenza so any vaccine is useless. That is why HIV treatment involves a whole slew of
    non-vaccine drugs. The lifespan of HIV patients has been increased well beyond the levels seen during the 1980s. But
    this has zero to do with SARS-CoV-2 vaccine development.

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    Post  par far Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:40 pm

    "After months of bashing Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine, Western journalists in Moscow line up to be inoculated against Covid-19"


    The big question is, why are assholes allowed in Russia?


    https://www.rt.com/russia/512428-western-journalists-sputnik-vaccination/

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    The official account dedicated to the Russian Sputnik V vaccine has been blocked on Twitter.
    https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:29 pm

    Sujoy wrote:What is weird is the speed at which a vaccine was developed for COVID-19.

    Millions of people are dying due to cancer and AIDS for the last five or six decades and yet till date we neither have a cure nor a vaccine for these diseases.

    COVID is just a variation of a well known and usually harmless virus

    AIDS and cancer are completely different league

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:59 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:What is weird is the speed at which a vaccine was developed for COVID-19.

    Millions of people are dying due to cancer and AIDS for the last five or six decades and yet till date we neither have a cure nor a vaccine for these diseases.

    AIDS and cancer are completely different league
    I would interpret your different league in financial terms.

    Big pharma generates so much profit in those, plus a few other, areas that there is not a bat in hell's chance of anything escaping from their labs that has any significant impact at all. Particularly in the US, many view the vaccines programs as a way of ensuring a base level of illness in a proportion of the population for their whole lives, very successful it is too.

    A healthy population = small pharma. No way Jose.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:35 am

    You can't really compare any strains of flu with HIV, they are totally different things...

    Flu in various types has been around for quite some time, while nothing like HIV existed before it.... they didn't understand what it was.

    For the Covid they were already working and in the advanced stages of creating a vaccine for SARS which is also a respiratory flu and it was this vaccine that was used as the basis for their new vaccine... at least in Russia.

    BTW in that RT article above posted post 502 or something it mentioned a reporter from one of the Baltic states that complained about all sorts of side effects and problems in English and Russian versions of articles. It seems some months later she mentioned that in the lab trial she was part of she got the Placebo... but she didn't correct her Russian language article with this important piece of information...  moaning bitch... they should have given her novachok.

    The reasons the Russians were so quick has been explained... no mention of how the west did it... perhaps they were already experimenting with a weaponised flu virus... so they had a better understanding of how it worked... has been found to have been in Italy before the first cases in China... security breach?

    Or maybe a leak like Porton Down and the Novachok strains they were clearly working on that killed that british woman.
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:38 am

    Norway Links 13 Deaths to Pfizer Vaccine's Side Effects


    https://sputniknews.com/europe/202101151081772909-norway-links-13-deaths-to-pfizer-vaccines-side-effects/


    So where are the bots claiming western vaccines are "safe" because in the past they never
    had a problem with them ? and so by their stupid logic.. if in the past it worked for them ,
    then it will be safe in the future too american vaccines. (completely ignoring the fact of the
    thousands of casualties caused by anglo nato vaccines on population.)

    and this numbers are in norway alone ,a country with just 5 million people in first  3 weeks of vaccinations with the few vaccines norway was sent ,just imagine how much worse will be in populated nations like UK or US , you hear about dozens of casualties in norway ,only because they were unable to hide them , some people will talk and not say silent no matter the money offered.

    in the west fake media, in our media ,the pro imperial media is rarely reported of  a single death of pfizer of moderna vaccine. There was one doctor killed in miami that was completely very healthy according to his wife and died just 2 hours after taking pfizer vaccine. No

    The official story is that pfizer told , "they will investigate" but while they do that , they have no problem with the continuation of the vaccination as business as usual.. they don't care about
    safety of people , for giving them and very poorly rushed and inneficient vaccine ,that no only can kill you ,but also reports of people get the virus either way with or without the pfizer vaccine.

    question is .. how many needs to die for them to stop using people as laboratory rats?   No

    It can't be a coincidence that only anglo west vaccines are killing ,while the russian and china
    vaccines none casualties reported yet . so someone is lying , either russia and china lie , or is
    pfizer the one lying , because the norway numbers , 13 confirmed deaths by their vaccine in just 18 days.. is like one people dying every day . this is a alarming . if that is the real behavior of pfizer vaccine ,then in the west the casualties by pfizer have to be in the hundreds already. with thousands of seriously injured people that required hospitalization after the vaccine.  Norway reports surpass by 10x the official confirmed death rate of america.. so this can't be real , someone is lying pfizer or norway and hiding something and don't think is norway the one hiding it. This news strongly indicates the casualties numbers are much more uglier than they reported , at last 1-2 persons killed per day , with the very few vaccines they have released. So the numbers could get as bad as thousands casualties per year , once most people vaccinated in the west.. and this number only increase ,because the west will demand vaccines shots every year for the population.  No

    This is how congress and pharma industry plans to make the world great again , by reducing
    the population in 90% a world for the richest only and their slaves.  lol1  


    pay attention to this GarryB , what the american and british ,anglo masonic powers elite wants.. (something i never understood in decades, how could they do that without a super crazy war with nukes ,but then covid19 happened ,this is how they plan to depopulate the world with the create a problem fist ,then offer the solution formula , they unleash a virus first and offer their vaccines as "solution ") later.

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    The Georgia Guidestones are a granite monument erected in 1980 in Elbert County, Georgia, in the United States. A set of ten guidelines is inscribed on the structure in eight modern languages and a shorter message is inscribed at the top of the structure in four ancient language scripts.


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    https://www.zmescience.com/other/feature-post/georgia-guidestones-mysterious-instructions-for-the-post-apocalypse/

    people who build those stones and erected them in US in a major visible public place..

    1)Not cheap this monument , poor people didn't was behind this ,only rich people will waste money in such a way ,unless they really had an agenda in mine. written in several languages including ancient ones in granite stones so the entire world can see it ,and last forever .
    2) they use "diversity" word.. this is far left language if used with people as a very important thing.
    3) they have been for years attribute those stones to secret societies freemasons /illuninati
    4) they use the same symbols that american dollar use.
    5) claims of those in the know ,that they wanted to depopulate the world have been going for decades.
    6)bill gates ,rockeffelers and soros  openly talk ,give conferences about depopulation.
    7)why you think they push for endless business lockdowns and wars? and speaking about mandatory
    yearly vaccines with people traced for those that don't have it?
    Cool this is a manifesto by very powerful and rich people and they even show it to everyone to see it.
       this are not a bad joke , nobody spend so much money in stupid stones unless they are very rich and have money to throw away , this are people that in order to achieve those numbers in the world, will need very serious influence in world governments and  politics..

    those are stones , US state Georgia protection. notice the word "diversity"
    this is a word only used by the liberals crap. That means globalist anglo - jews super rich elite and their allies are in charge to implement this policy.. Why for them diversity (of incompatible cultures ,ideas and morals ) is important ? because allows them more easily to divide and conquer society,
    by creating divisions.. white vs blacks , muslim vs christians, left vs right.. this is why the far left
    love diversity and an example of "diversity" in action is the Syrian war.

    if you forced a wolf and sheep together.. in a farm in the same place ,guess what will be the end result? this is another way ,they already have doing to depopulate US.

    and This is how i believe Anglo powers elites hopes to reduce world population by so much. from 7 billion to just 500,000. with poisonous vaccines + bribery of corrupt scientist and doctors , they can do that .All they need to do is with help of lying big media while threatening people to lose their jobs if talk ,
    to do it. They first vaccinate as much people they can in the world ,billions , and later unleash a virus that they know will bypass their vaccine and that both were designed to work in pairs for maximum killing effectiveness and then later when people die ,the death will be blamed on their "poor health"
    or on a new "virus". So this forced vaccines are truly the perfect weapon , to exterminate world population by idiots who trust their governments "into the safety of vaccines" of countries with very low record of caring for human life.

    and here is another little secret.. before the western elite do any major risky move , they put it first to test if it works or not.. so basically for many reasons that will not cover here ,it looks that what people like George soros ,bill gates , rockeffellers ,rothshild wants.. the kind of utopian world they want, is what you see already happening in countries like QATAR and UAE.

    They also seem were testing that utopian style experimental government under a more democratic
    system in Norway too..a very wealthy and low populated super socialist state.

    specially QATAR . because their population is so low , is very easy to control it by a family and keep
    people with high salaries $130k at month in qatar ,with super new and shinny infrastructure and full universal socialist benefits for those that need it in the working class.. sounds great right?

    yes until you tell them ,that to have this utopian world they want , it will be ruled by them
    like a dictatorship and vast majority of world population will be exterminated by them directly
    or indirectly. with "diversity" projects and with vaccines in combination with heavy promotion of
    gay life ,feminism and gender change programs on children , to brainwash them into reversing
    their sex , by gov influencing them to do it ,when they are incapable of understanding right vs wrong or less what is good for them or not.  if you inject poison in a candy and offer it to a children..
    what you think will happen? he will take it and eat it.. this is why they promote gender change on
    early children as a "human right".

    The anglo neoliberal super billionaire elites ,who controls US foreign policy and presidents too ,
    they want to literary destroy society ,end blood relations and replace it by artificial ones materialistic
    and sexual ones , if they break the traditional family system ,and replace it for far left hate culture ,
    then eventually the society will be extremely divided ,all the way to its roots ,the family and so will make it near impossible for society to ever agree and unite over anything , gays and pedophiles will never join people that are anti gays and pro family values in a protest against a corrupt government.
    and the combination of anti life ,anti society ,anti family culture with biological wars and fake vaccines ,they will reduce the population dramatically in places Russia and china fails to influence.

    in more similar new..  listen this..  Shocked

    Peruvian court , accused Rockefellers ,George Soros , Bill Gates in
    creating the pandemic we face today. this news have traveled all the world.

    https://pledgetimes.com/judges-who-accused-soros-rockefeller-and-gates-of-the-pandemic-come-under-scrutiny/


    No evidence have be provided however for those claims , but will not surprise me ,not even
    a little if they are behind this pandemic . China foreign ministry government was the first one to suggest in early 2020 that US military passed the virus to them ,albeit they also admitted they have no smoking gun evidence to proof this ,but they for sure will continue investigating this.




    @papadragon
    COVID is just a variation of a well known and usually harmless virus
    AIDS and cancer are completely different league

    And what "harmless virus " you talk about ? because as far i remember  seasonal flu
    that is the one every medic compares in similarity ,  mortality rate is similar to the virus
    that produce covid19. You obviously are defending western pharma industry ,just like
    @garryb using from fail logic to completely out of context information to probe their point.

    for your information the seasonal flu vaccine do exist..  it have been in development world wide
    and the best that anglo western pharma industry have done , in decades of development and improvement is 50% efficiency.

    So how can you believe western anglo pharma efficiency numbers with their new vaccines ,
    versus the virus that produce covid19 to be 92% -95% "efficient" with a completely new virus
    in just months of development of the vaccine ?


    So the west dedicated headlines for weeks accusing russia of rushing their sputnik vaccine and skipping phase 3 trials , that is supposed to take years.. (not a few months) ,but after Russia announce their vaccine and start vaccinating their military and putin's daughter ,they do the same ?
    and suddenly is all great for western vaccines?. So if russia don't wait years of research is bad ,but if he west do it is great?  No

    The story telling of the west does not add up , you don't become an expert making vaccines over night with a new virus. i repeat that the efficiency numbers of flu vaccine are about 50% and that one took years.. and they have found no vaccine or cure for other viruses like hepatitis.. and aids is a virus too.


    HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) is a virus that attacks the body's immune system. If HIV is not treated, it can lead to AIDS (acquired immunodeficiency syndrome). There is currently no effective cure.

    This is a virus that started in the west , in US and the world have found no cure for it.. and it have been around us for decades.. and suddenly we have to trust in today vaccines than in just few months the west manage to make them  "95% effective" against the most dangerous virus of our time?  lol1   common .. dude , stop the bullshit.  

    [u] if they were a total failure in producing vaccines pre covid19 , then what makes you think that they will do safe vaccines overnight with a new and even more lethal virus than influenza and seasonal flu ?

    So US pharma industry effectiveness against corona viruses vaccines was 50% after decades of research and testing and not even found a cure for IHV virus that produce aids ,and now by magic
    we are supposed to believe that in few months of 2020 , from march to summer ,they got incredibly lucky and created a miracle vaccine with "95% efficiency" Rolling Eyes No No No

     Russia at least gave an excuse as to why they had a vaccine in so short time ,and explained their sputnik vaccines are not new ,just a copy of their ebola vacine that they tested for years in africa and was very successful there and very efficient and they just modified it a bit to combat Sarscov2 virus the one that creates this covid19 pandemic.

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    Post  elconquistador Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:56 pm

    At least 23 Pfizer vaccin related deaths in Norway

    https://www.unian.info/m/world/covid-19-over-20-people-vaccinated-with-pfizer-vaccine-die-in-norway-11285645.html

    At least 10 Pfizer related deaths in Germany

    https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/current-affairs/german-specialists-probing-10-deaths-of-people-vaccinated-against-covid-19-121011500088_1.html

    China: Don't use the Pfizer vaccine!

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212915.shtml

    Pfizer 'temporarily reduces vaccine deliveries'. Has nothing to do with people dropping like flies and getting permanently injured by the thousands of course

    https://www.thejournal.ie/pfizer-to-reduce-vaccine-deliveries-to-europe-as-of-next-week-5325981-Jan2021/


    Reddit sub on Covid related deaths an injuries. Hundreds of stories already

    https://www.reddit.com/r/CovidVaccinated/

    Vaccine passports coming in Poland and other EU countries.. To keep y'all safe!

    https://summit.news/2021/01/14/poland-rolls-out-vaccine-passports/

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    Post  elconquistador Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:09 am

    Some of the lucky ones, lucky not to die.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Joe_Kamal_/status/1349534163095990274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1349534163095990274%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

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    J&J's vaccine will provide antibodies for the whole.. 71 days!

    *mandatory 2 yearly jabs incoming *

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9144695/J-J-vaccine-track-March-rollout-target-deliver-1-bln-doses-year-exec.html


    The contents of the 'science juice' have been leaked (and hacked)

    https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/302626513

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:54 am

    pay attention to this GarryB , what the american and british ,anglo masonic powers elite wants.. (something i never understood in decades, how could they do that without a super crazy war with nukes ,but then covid19 happened ,this is how they plan to depopulate the world with the create a problem fist ,then offer the solution formula , they unleash a virus first and offer their vaccines as "solution ") later.

    The problem is that these people are essentially already in power so WTF is taking so long... surely by now they have developed some viruses together with dodgy vaccines to wipe out the required number of people to attain their goals... except even 500 dead from Pfizer vaccines and a 3% kill rate from Covid is nothing close to getting the world population to 500 million... I mean 500 million is a third of the population of China.... so killing everyone else would be a serious struggle no matter what the virus or vaccine.

    Such a dramatic reduction in human population would be very difficult to achieve... you would need a vaccine that destroys the ability to reproduce in human male and females... but how do you ensure you don't wipe out humanity completely... and how do you stop potential opponents from using it against you by wiping out the west first.

    You give the west way to much credit.... Pfizer is not some macheivallian organisation that will create a future utopia... they are just incompetent and screwed up their vaccine in the rush to appear to be as advanced as the Russians. The Russians were lucky enough to be working on essentially something very similar to what was needed, while the western companies have screwed up cutting obviously important corners.

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    Post  Vann7 Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:12 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    The problem is that these people are essentially already in power so WTF is taking so long... surely by now they have developed some viruses together with dodgy vaccines to wipe out the required number of people to attain their goals... except even 500 dead from Pfizer vaccines and a 3% kill rate from Covid is nothing close to getting the world population to 500 million... I.


    dude , i already explained to you ,that the mass killing cannot happen until everyone or vast majority of the population they want to get rid is vaccinated first.

    This deaths we see now of 1% to 3% of those vaccinated , have to be consequences of their
    nanochips that only anglo pharma companies use , and are being rejected by the body .  but
    their massive ethnic cleansing of the population can't happen in the first weeks or months
    with just .01% of population vaccinated , don't you think that will scare population to not vaccinated?

    is like trying to capture a rat ,before it falls in the trap. you need to first wait for all population or most of their desired population to eliminate to get vaccinated first..  this will give them the option on the table ,the option at their finger tips ,to decide when to mass kill those people who oppose their tyranny.

    They are likely seeking to murder majority of western population ,specially those who depend on social aid and food stamps that drains the economy , and ethnic minorities ,because they know their empire economy will collapse and so they will not like to fall like soviet union did.. that the collapse
    of the economy bring down the entire system.. so they are seeking to hold power forever by having
    absolute perfect control of all society in the west and as many as possible in the world.

    Those nanochips western anglo industry inject in your veins , when inside your body and brain ,can be used not only for healing people ,but for killing them too and by control remote or when in contact with any virus , so this allows them to decide exactly the day and hour you will die .



    The problem is that these people are essentially already in power so WTF is taking so long


    Because the population needs to be vaccinated first.. that's why .. their high tech healing/killing multipurpose good/dangerous vaccines can be used in anyway they desire , but if they don't have
    all population vaccinated first or majority of the ones they know will challenge their power , then they will be unable to hold power if most population go to the streets to remove them from power.. military generals will also need to be vaccinated ,so they will take no risk .

    if West start shooting at thousands and millions of civilians in plain daylight   ,or killing them with bombs and nuking their own cities ,don't you think this will create a major mass scale civil war and all population and many in the military will rebel against their power?

    So the west have all the political and military power ,but still yet don't control all their society ,
    and this is  the biggest power of all , when all society unites , that is composed of hundreds of millions , like in america , they can remove any tyranny that start mass killing them with bombs and bullets..  but if that tyranny do this ethnic cleansing in a stealthy way , through double purpose vaccines.. to heal you or kill you in presence of a virus.

    then they can get away with any millions mass murdering of population by blaming any death
    on a "new virus" ,  with people now knowing that what killed them was already inside sleeping
    in a nanochip and waiting to be activated.

    This is why i told you garryb.. the west are not dumb , the west are not fools.. this is what they will like you to believe.. that is "incompetence" , that losing thousands of humvess in iraq to alqaeda and isis was "incompetence" , that world trade center attacks in 911 was also " incompetence" , that this pandemic handling , in the west and their world records infections , is "incompetence".  no is not.
    they are brilliant evil smart . those who have all the money in the world ,can hire all the best experts
    to guide them ,how to be more efficient in destroying their enemies and holding power forever and do it while looking like a "Democratic nation"

    US system have the biggest minds that happens to be evil too , pure genius and brilliant in destruction of their enemies.  the only one dumb is Putin.. he is a complete moron . and his entire 20 years of economic strategy of russia have been checkmated.

    1)Putin wanted to turn russia into a gas station of the world.
    - they respond by creating conditions for endless low oil prices.
    2) Putin invested a huge fortune ,near a hundred of billions dollars in making russia a capital of sports.  
    -they respond banning russia from sports..   lol1
    3)putin invested a fortune in super expensive parks ,and infrastructure in moscow and stpeterburg
    to promote russia as the world best tourist natin.
    -they responded with this pandemic event.. it will be the end of tourism as we knew it.
    4)putin wanted to turn russia in the world major exporter of food.
    -US sends an army of investors to raise ukraine food industry to compete with the russian one.   lol1
    5) on top of that the west combine all this political moves above ,with civil armed conflicts,
    they organize all around russian borders and in russia allied zones , forcing russia to interfere over charging its economy .

    The only problem of the west is not intelligence but instead is greed. their greed ,combined
    with putin's politeness and stupidity is what encourage them to take big risk and try the unthinkable.
    i asure you ,the west will have never tried to unleash a virus in soviet union if nikita krushev was the president.. he is everything putin is not.. he was a strong leader ,not an insecure and weak president like putin is , and he constantly threatened the west to crush them with nukes if they do something stupid against russia. The west will have never dared to unleash this covid19 virus on russia ,knowing russia have their own viruses labs too and their president (nikita krushev) is not a polite insecure weak as what russia have today ,that his miserable weakness ,softyness ,encoourate russian enemies to continue attacking russia knowing there will be no consequences for them.  No

    When everyone is vaccinated with anglo pharma industry vaccines in a year or two ,they will have the option at hand to reduce any part of the population of their chosing ,or even killing individual people ,since they can put anything they want in their nanochips full vaccines.. and not all vaccines have to be the same.. they could secretly have one vaccine for the rich and another for the poors and middle class and another for those problematic to their system.. yet the vaccine flask label will be the same..
    their content not necessarily will be the same.. again they can put acid battery if they so desire in any specific person , of their choice ,that they will want to get rid ,and people will have no way of knowing what went wrong if they control who does the autopsy.

    The West ,anglo powers simply wants to have full control of society ,all the way to their own privacy
    and control over their families and children ,this is necessary ,extremely important for any tyranny who wants to hold power forever and notice will not have a way to hold power unless all population controlled by controlling their health.

    the depopulation project began with covid19 pandemic in 2020.. why they didn't do it earlier ? perhaps they did not had their technology ready , or had not all the pieces and leaders and people in place in US and Europe.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:54 pm

    Vann7 wrote:...This deaths we see now of 1% to 3% of those vaccinated , have to be consequences of their
    nanochips that only anglo pharma companies use
    , and are being rejected by the body

    Those nanochips western anglo industry inject in your veins , when inside your body and brain ,can be used not only for healing people ,but for killing them too and by control remote or when in contact with any virus , so this allows them to decide exactly the day and hour you will die ....

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    lol1 lol1 lol1

    Hahahahahahahaha, this here is absolute peak retard!!!

    We are witnessing history folks, Vann7 is reaching for the Sun of retardation, The Icarus of Retards!


    On the upside, nanochips can't go inside your brain if you ain't got one so Vann7 is ahead of the curve Razz


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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:23 pm

    There is no need to worry about secret nanotech which nobody has on this planet.

    The mRNA concept is dangerous all by itself. It is a type of gene therapy where the mRNA is used to modify cell DNA to produce
    proteins that are part of the virus but not part of humans. This concept look OK in a vitro, but having the body produce antibodies
    against these proteins which are part of living cells risks autoimmune responses. Antibodies are not clockwork precise constructs.
    They are produced through a trial and error process (that is basically a form of evolution where the successful antibodies are selected)
    which means there can be antibodies that attack some intermediate target.

    Specifically, proteins that are part of cell walls are not exactly chemically isolated entities. So you can have molecular complexes
    which are aggregations of several different molecules. An effective antibody may actually target a part of the complex instead of
    the isolated viral protein. This pattern cannot be excluded on any physicochemical basis. The clowns producing such vaccines
    just assume this is not likely to happen. They have no way of measuring the process just the end results. It is too painful to
    test every molecular structure possible and there is no engineering to manipulate molecules in such a fine manner. An electron
    microscope can't see molecular complexes and any chemical dissection of a cell will destroy those complexes.

    So we can have hybrid target antibodies that can attack the viral proteins but can also attack human proteins. Antibodies
    are large and complex enough to deal with substantial parts of proteins and not just a few atoms. That is their whole function,
    to be able to discriminate between complex molecules. If they were just aimed at simple patterns, then they would attack
    everything. So it is rather easy for there to be hybrid functionality given the subset of the protein complex that the antibody
    "learned" to attach itself to.

    "Old fashioned" vaccines which use dead virus fragments are vastly safer since these fragments are not going to be inserting themselves
    into cell walls. The immune system is evolved to deal with foreign bodies and dead virus fragments fit this pattern. Hijacking cell
    metabolism to manufacture viral proteins is criminally reckless at best.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:43 am

    dude , i already explained to you ,that the mass killing cannot happen until everyone or vast majority of the population they want to get rid is vaccinated first.

    A huge percent of the western population is already vaccinated against all sorts of things.

    As you mention vaccination is only priming your own bodies defences to recognise and quickly deal with a new invader... how does that help them kill large numbers of people?

    It would make more sense to isolate themselves in small communities and release real Plagues on the rest of us that are super highly contagious but also at the same time rather long term killers... say in 5 years you die of cancer or something so plenty of time to infect everyone else and by the time the first people start dying it is too late to work out what is happening because everyone is already infected...

    The obvious problem is how do you control it and ensure no one you want to keep alive dies.

    I mean it is alright for having plans to save an elite but what about staff... when you just have people used to being waited on, who couldn't wire a plug or replace batteries in a remote control then what sort of future are we talking about... I would suggest the people who die will be the lucky ones because that level of death would mean dead bodies everywhere and not enough people to bury them... economies would crash... with no workers there would be no food production and no new Ipad or Iphone... the survivors would want one pistol with one bullet each...

    On the other hand the wildlife would flourish... humans would be an abundant food for a year or three as bodies will be everywhere and new bodies dying all the time... the survivors will be living in a broken non functioning society with no trade and no food production the existing food stores would be abundant as the population massively contracts so go to the malls and super markets but you wont be surviving more than a couple of years.... people will be killing each other and wars will be going on when people realise there is nothing to lose... some people might survive, but not enough to retain a 21st century lifestyle... things will become lord of the flies brutal real fast with the strongest and the most ruthless doing as they please... normal for third world countries but a brutal shock for the first and second worlds...

    This deaths we see now of 1% to 3% of those vaccinated , have to be consequences of their

    Bullshit... 1 to three percent is the death rate for Covid... for the vaccinations you might have 500 dead in total from hundreds of thousands vaccinated already... the death rate from Sputnik seems to be zero if we rely on western media and their relentless charge to show anything negative... of 20,000 vaccinated last year with Sputnik something like 250 actually contracted Covid, but the cases were mild because they had antibodies and none needed to be hospitalised... compared with 3% which without vaccination should have resulted in 600 fatalities with a 3 percent death rate.

    US system have the biggest minds that happens to be evil too , pure genius and brilliant in destruction of their enemies. the only one dumb is Putin.. he is a complete moron . and his entire 20 years of economic strategy of russia have been checkmated.

    1)Putin wanted to turn russia into a gas station of the world.
    - they respond by creating conditions for endless low oil prices.

    Ahhh bullshit... under Yeltsin it was the west telling him that Russia doesn't need to make anything, because they can pump oil and natural gas and buy anything they like... they say the same to other countries too like Venezuela because it makes them nice and fragile and easy to break and means less competition for their shit to sell.

    Putin kept selling oil and gas but nationalised it so the Russian people benefitted from oil and gas prices rather than a few super rich 1%ers like in the west, but he also started diversifying production... if he had not then 100% localisation of Russian weapons would not have been achieved... the US is no where close to achieving that by the way making them more of a third world gas station shit hole... in fact they are worse because the west would never tolerate a third world country to get that much debt without seizing up all their assets and essentially owning the country...
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:41 am



    The obvious problem is how do you control it and ensure no one you want to keep alive dies.


    Thats so easy Garryb..  lets for a moment imagine you were a serial killer ,and criminal ,who
    enjoys killing people , and you want to get rid of someone that is on a party in your house
    and you know no matter how it happens ,police that will do the investigation are your friends
    and told you will cover you.. but you can't do it in front of your family and other friends , in other
    words you can't do it openly and directly.. so what else you can do to get rid on him?

    easy just poison the drink that he will get, you serve your enemies the poisonous drink and your friends the clean drink without poison.

    So they can very easily ,use more than one vaccine , one with the trap/with the poisonous content
    and another with a real vaccine . People will not see the difference by looking at the bottle of the vaccine , because the labels will all say pfizer , but those who wants to poison you ,with a vaccine
    can easily identify the special killer vaccines by a serial number or any id secret identification that only you will know , that will separate the true vaccines ,from the killer ones..

    so the elites ,bill gates ,soros and their minions and bots will get vaccinated by a true vaccine,
    while the poor and working class ,those that they consider enemies because will challenge their system and will not agree with slavery of humanity , for example christians will be an example
    that the western anglo elites knows will be their enemies ,because they will oppose injustice
    and crime from their government. Even trump have spoken about this ,that the deep state ,what trump calls the swamp ,hate christians and so he told many times ,that christians no longer will have to feel persecuted as obama administration did it for 8 years. It was evangelical christians in US that joined forces and who crossed political parties to help trump win the election in 2016 to get rid of the  alqaeda and isis and diversity loving democrats.  

    So very easy , you can literary go to any city ,with help of lying media and convince fools
    to trust on your vaccines ,and go to any state and those who are part of the anglo empire system ,part of the elites ,that are very corrupt will get a true vaccine , and those who oppose
    their tyranny will get the poisonous vaccine and with the use of technology ,like nanochips for example ,they can easily fill those nanochips with poisonous substances and be programmed
    to unleash on you a killer virus ,whenever they choose to do it ,with a radio signal or could be triggered by a new virus..    so literary they can hand pick ,which people among 320millions of americans will die and who will live . Means they will have the option at hand ,on their table
    to eliminate anyone in US or any NATO country that use their vaccine ,and get rid of them
    and make it look it was a natural thing, and that you are to blame ,  it will be blamed on your age or allergic reaction or blamed on a  virus.   but never will be blamed on the vaccine ,because everyone
    thinks one way only.. that medicines and vaccines are impossible to be used as a weapon to kill people right?


    On more news..

    lets talk about New Zealand.. (part of the criminal anglo west empire ,and also part of nato 5 eyes that is destroying the world)

    What are the possibilities of this particular hidden nation ,with the lowest covid numbers in the
    world ,(currently only 75 cases).. Shocked  , that by accident they sell icecream to a country
    and infest hundreds of people ,because it was discovered was full of covid19?  Laughing

    China this week discovered recently a nasty surprise in the milk powder ,they bough from new zealand , and found that the milk powder they got was contaminated with sarscov2 virus..  Shocked

    so please explain me that GARRYB a country of 5 million people ,with only 75 of them with covid19 , that by a HUGE COINCIDENCE ,  the powder milk that china got from new zealand was full of
    the virus?   Laughing

    this actually happened ,and china got many infested for this criminal behavior of new zealand ,because it cannot be real bad luck or coincidence ,that they did not verify it ,was safe for people use??  this things does not surprise me , not at all , i told you ,anglo powers are controlled
    by a criminal international banking mafia and it have been told new zealand is one of the countries ,the super rich in the west will flee ,whenever they aware the risk of a nuclear war will start.
    and another nation also sold contaminated food, who it was ..?  ukrainia.   lol1

    So did you see the coincidences? 2 puppets of the anglo jewish system ,are selling infested
    food with viruses to china..  Laughing  

    but china thanks to their distrust , decided to be suspicious on the icecream and checked the food for presence of covid19 virus and bingo they found it.. but not before some people got infested..

    This is not a nature pandemic Garryb what the world face.. this is a biological controlled war ,designed with many objectives , from depopulation of the world ,to find a way how to attack and completely  sabotage enemies economies (like russia and china and iran) and get away with it, so that they will be able to make it look like a natural event. and not a biological war..  

    this biological war ,is not only me who is saying that.. there is a coronel of the Russian military
    intelligence ,that was interviewed and explained this.. and mark my words will post the video
    here so you see it.. (if you dare to look at it) and see by yourself the russian military who worked
    on intelligence told covid19 is a military operation and reasons why the russian government have not
    exposed this have to be for lack of irrefutable evidence and because to not alarm society ,that a biological war have started .  but is not a coincidence , russia banned planes from US and all anglo and nato powers to fly above Russia airspace. and closed the entry of tourist from them too.

    biological war , this is what is happening garryb.
    Corona virus pandemic explained in 11 minutes
    by an russian retired intel military colonel expert in epidemies and viruses.



    from the military intel officer.
    1)The virus is real ,but is not a pandemic ,but an anglozionist military operation.
    2) the western goals are to reduce their economy bubble.
    3) to depopulate the world ,to reduce world population.
    4) to hit and destroy china
    5) to hit and destroy russia
    6) and do all that ,without provoking a major world war 3 , something they know they can't control
      contrary to this covid19 incident that they can control it , if they happen to had the vaccine
    before the virus was unleashed in europe and china.

    my best guess is Anglo powers pass the virus through drones aereal ways ,through food , and through tourism and through olympics. all this ways is how china got it.

    i figured the scam of this pandemic ,as soon learned
    bill gates was celebrating "simulations" of a pandemic in new york city on oct 25 2019 in the same day that china was hosting the wuhan military olympics.

    here is a little secret for you.. when the criminal anglo mafia is hosting any simulation or military exercise "to combat any major terror event" or any other disaster ,you better be worried. vast majority of US false flag ,they stage simulations on the same day ,they plan to  kill many people..
    that way is someone managed to intercept their real terrorist communications of their real terror attacks , they can claim ,it was "just a simulation" not the real thing.. this is how evil and smart they are. they always frame their criminal terror attacks to coincide at same moment with other anti terror trainings , this is done to create maximum confusion in those trying to find the truth. so be worried when you see a virus emergency simulation in your country.

    an example of this covering your crime with alternative events happening simultaneously in same place , is the boston bombings.. the fbi was holding anti bomb exercises simulation trainning very close to the same place ,that a bomb hapened..coincidence?  ,when suddenly a lonely chechen detonate a bomb and later turns that he was an fbi informant..

    is for nothing that former FBI director of LA , the third highest position of that agency , told
    that most of the biggest terror attacks in US and UK are all an inside job ,done by the same goverment . he claims that an international mafia is in control of washington dc policies congress ,senate , all federal agencies (including health industry) and are out of control.


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    https://sputniknews.com/asia/202101161081790580-chinese-authorities-trace-coronavirus-infected-ice-cream/

    In other words china caught new zealand cheating ,a country 99.9% free of covid19 but by
    a real amazing coincidence..    sell china poisonous food  Rolling Eyes ,didn't i told you anglo powers the kings of false flags and inside jobs and king of lies their media ,that their governments are controlled by a criminal mafia?    

    im glad china found the criminals who sold them infested milk with viruses that provoke covid19.
    every single anglo power should be 100% distrusted ,their food ,their medicines and their tourist
    not allowed in any nation ,Because there is a biowar going on  ,and is not only about depopulation but also about sabotage of the economies of the enemies of the anglo jewish NATO world.
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    Post  jhelb Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:18 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Even trump have spoken about this ,that the deep state ,what trump calls the swamp ,hate christians and so he told many times
    Not all Christians. Deep state, US admin hates Only WHITE CHRISTIANS. White genocide is real.

    Much like this forum Smile you can hate Russia, you can hate White people and it's all kosher but if you defend Russia and/or White people, you can be banned.
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    Post  LMFS Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:35 pm

    kvs wrote:The mRNA concept is dangerous all by itself.

    Plus them using this occasion for testing on mass scale without liabilities makes it clear they do want the technology. The scary part is for what do they want it.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:07 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    kvs wrote:The mRNA concept is dangerous all by itself.

    Plus them using this occasion for testing on mass scale without liabilities makes it clear they do want the technology. The scary part is for what do they want it.

    It is manifestly about genetic engineering. They want the ability to change the DNA in every cell of your body. Current
    gene therapy cannot have full penetration. But a key aspect of the Pfizer crapcine is the use of a lipid nanoparticle
    shell for the mRNA. This is a more efficient vector than any virus since it can be made smaller. Smaller means deeper
    penetration.

    Below 50 nm particles cannot be stopped by any cell membrane or tissue layer. The large Kelvin curvature effect (giving
    a huge Laplace pressure differential compared to ambient pressure) results in mechanical disruption of cell walls without
    the disruption of the particle itself. You can use non-emulsions consisting of a simple oil in water as an efficient
    disinfectant for this reason. It will kill any bacteria and mangle even viruses.

    A side effect of using the Pfizer lipid nanoparticle vector is that we have foreign protein production in parts of the
    body that have nothing to do with any Covid infection. This achieves a higher chance of confusing the immune
    system and resulting in autoimmune responses.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:36 pm

    jhelb wrote:...Much like this forum Smile you can hate Russia, you can hate White people and it's all kosher but if you defend Russia and/or White people, you can be banned.

    Before you whine too much​ about forum being mean to you you may​ want to start separating Russians from white people

    History and geopolitics have​ demonstrated that those are two very different things

    All of Russia's enemy nations are uniformly White (UK, Germany, France, Canada, Poland, Baltics, the Ukraine, Czech, Romania, Sweden, Norway, Denmark) while USA is still ran by Whites so worrying about "muh white people" can only get you giggles



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    Post  LMFS Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:44 pm

    kvs wrote:It is manifestly about genetic engineering.   They want the ability to change the DNA in every cell of your body.

    I knew you would say something comforting pale

    Narcissists willing to play God with the tools to actually do it, what could go wrong?

    In principle mRNA should not change anything with nucleus DNA isn't it? But I agree the final goal is advance this kind of technologies. When you hear about their parallel programs like "allied insects" (cannot remember the exact name) and the amount of US labs surrounding Russia you really wish the technologies to counter this shit are being created by the authorities at full speed.
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    Post  Yugo90 Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:49 pm

    I would never take any western covid 19 vaccine. Because we now know this is man made virus from the lab and i dont trust people like Fauci the devil and wannabe dr. Gates the eugenist. But for me its very strange that in israel they approved the vacccine. Why would they do thaat ? Maybe its just a game but i dont understand the jews...they want to vacccinate all Jews but NO palestinians. Its really strange they want to doo that...
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:18 pm

    kvs wrote:
    LMFS wrote:
    kvs wrote:The mRNA concept is dangerous all by itself.

    Plus them using this occasion for testing on mass scale without liabilities makes it clear they do want the technology. The scary part is for what do they want it.

    It is manifestly about genetic engineering.   They want the ability to change the DNA in every cell of your body.   Current
    gene therapy cannot have full penetration.    But a key aspect of the Pfizer crapcine is the use of a lipid nanoparticle
    shell for the mRNA.   This is a more efficient vector than any virus since it can be made smaller.   Smaller means deeper
    penetration.

    Below 50 nm particles cannot be stopped by any cell membrane or tissue layer.   The large Kelvin curvature effect (giving
    a huge Laplace pressure differential compared to ambient pressure) results in mechanical disruption of cell walls without
    the disruption of the particle itself.   You can use non-emulsions consisting of a simple oil in water as an efficient
    disinfectant for this reason.   It will kill any bacteria and mangle even viruses.  

    A side effect of using the Pfizer lipid nanoparticle vector is that we have foreign protein production in parts of the
    body that have nothing to do with any Covid infection.   This achieves a higher chance of confusing the immune
    system and resulting in autoimmune responses.  



    Holyshit.. this is more serious than i thought ..

    Even if the pfizer vaccines don't kill you in the first hours ,or weeks or months, people should be very seriously worried ,because will have inside their bodies a recipient for a major disaster later ,nanoparticles ,designed to interfere or sabotage your autoimmune system of defenses ,that everyone have in their bodies naturally to protect against deceases and viruses.

    So in other words ,the vaccine is like aids on steroids , but in a reversed way.

    1) Aids targets         -> your system of body defenses.. by killing it ,so no defenses for you against any illness.  so any normal cold can kill you.

    2)Pfizer nanovaccine  targets ->  your system of body defenses too , but instead of killing it ,
    they confuse it , in a permanent way , so your own system of body defenses will kill you ,
    by sending more and more defenses against the intruder nanoparticles it don't like.  Shocked

    so is this fight , of your body with the intruder substance ,your body don't like ,what kills you,
    what fills your lungs with the natural liquid that your body normally use to cure illness ,a substance that stick like jelly in your lungs and when lungs fill of this liquid , you can't breathe and die.  Shocked

    this is exactly how covid19 kills people , but the vaccine replicate this too , but with a major difference , the vaccine cannot be removed ,once injected ,they will likely stick forever in all parts of your body like a cancer ,because of its very small nanoparticles they inject and so is impossible to remove. and because they are so small ,will be impossible to detect by any traditional hospital , you will need nano scopes of the like ,that taiwan semiconductor facilities have ,to detect this man made nano particles that pfizer inject in people veins.  


    if this can be confirmed , then without doubt ,this is more dangerous than any nuclear weapon.
    because it can kill on a mass scale level and do it in a true stealthy way , making it look it was just
    people "age" or people "alergies" or some other illness or seasonal flu will be blamed by it.

    and the sad thing about all this. that it will NOT SURPRISE ME AT ALL.
    the anglo mafia 5 eyes powers are truly controlled by a very evil international criminal terrorist
    mafia , and this without a doubt will help them to reduce population to half a million in the entire
    world.. they literary playing to be God , and interfering with people dna.  to do this kind of bioweapon
    they call "vaccine" ,this cannot be done without heavy funding and NATO military participation.

    What is amazing for me ,why Russia is not exposing the dangers of this nano particles technology,
    used by western anglo vaccines and remain silent ,when their own retired generals expose this. it had to be because russia is also under its own malign influence of this criminal mafia cartel too to a some degree and putin the imbecile is a coward and do not dare to confront them , for fear of the Russian economy collapsing. The general who spoke ,even told something about it , that Russia cannot fight the anglozionist west until it counters their own pro jewish mafia in power ,that he call parasites ,sabotaging russia from the inside.

    This is why i said many times , Putin biggest crime is not develop Russia for a TRUE independence
    from the west. Not only political and military but also technology and economy too ,because they depend on stupid gas stations their economy and europe is the main client ,they forced to tolerate a lot of crap the west pull on russia ,for fear of being isolated from the true developed world. There is absolutely no reasons for Russia to have embassies of enemy nations in their country ,absolutely no reason why russia should follow the anglo system of international laws (united nations) and allow enemy countries planes to get withing strike distance of russia ,with their bombers cruise missiles capable to carry nukes. they should close all foreign embassies of enemy nations and any important negotiations done on border countries ,  because all those embassies are in reality centers of financing and recruitment of opposition in russia.  Putin don't like the injustice and unfairness of the western system and he is the only one to blame for it.. if he don't like the western system and still follows it for 20 years and not even try to challenge it ,then he is the one to blame ,not the west.
    if a wife stay with a man that abuse of her for 20 years and she don't leave him ,and still continues with him ,then is the wife the ones who is allowing this to happen . and putin is like the wife ,who is beaten every day and the next day ,she is polite and submissive again. This cowardice of not confronting those who attacks you ,or at least challenging their system with better business , is what have created the dangerous world we live . where bad people can do freely bad things ,because they know , they can get away with it , since no one for 20 years challenge them , but china only.


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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:34 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    kvs wrote:It is manifestly about genetic engineering.   They want the ability to change the DNA in every cell of your body.

    I knew you would say something comforting pale

    Narcissists willing to play God with the tools to actually do it, what could go wrong?

    In principle mRNA should not change anything with nucleus DNA isn't it? But I agree the final goal is advance this kind of technologies. When you hear about their parallel programs like "allied insects" (cannot remember the exact name) and the amount of US labs surrounding Russia you really wish the technologies to counter this shit are being created by the authorities at full speed.

    mRNA uses reverse-transcriptase which is found in every cell to make an "m"DNA fragment that is inserted into the cell DNA in the
    nucleus. That is how the whole concept works. The mRNA is designed to hijack cell DNA to make virus proteins. Of course
    the mRNA is not the whole virus RNA since that would result in the cellular machinery being hijacked to make whole viruses.

    I am not familiar enough with how female ova and male sperm DNA is created since it is "fresh" and not differentiated and has
    the maximum number of telomeres. But it is an established fact that humans carry a legacy of virus-infection DNA fragments.
    That implies that ova and sperm can be "GMO"ed to pass on any desired change to offspring. I am quite sure that the Pfizer
    approach can be made to modify human DNA across generations. Regardless, screwing around with living human DNA has all
    sorts of value for narcissist deciders.

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