Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #2

JohninMK wrote:

Aristide wrote:
And we never had an english as french pm.

OK you got me there, he was French. It was his parents who were English but he was born near their factory in France, William Henry Waddington, from a long established English family.

You will also no doubt enjoy this

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/wake-call-astrazeneca-jab-fails-prevent-south-africa-strain

The british astrazeneca vaccine proves to be a worthless placebo. In France, Germany, Spain, Italy and Poland its officially labelled as only minor functional. South Africa now stopped it completly.

As things develop, we might see the EU cancel the contract with AZ completly, since the british vaccine is worthless. Polls show that only 15% of EU citizens would want the AZ vaccine. I definitly will not accept that trash. I will ask what vaccine i bet and if it is AZ, i will demand other or leave.

Putin considers the appearance of three vaccines from COVID-19 in the Russian Federation a major scientific success
8 February 2021

Russian President Vladimir Putin called the creation of three coronavirus vaccines in the country a major scientific success. The head of state announced this on Monday, February 8, during the council on science and education.

“Thanks to our scientists, Russia occupies a leading position in the world - I will not say anything unexpected and new now, we all know about it, - it occupies a leading position in the world in creating a vaccine against coronavirus,” said the Russian leader.

Putin also noted that Russia is the only country that already has three vaccines of its own, domestic development.

In addition, the President drew attention to the fact that the coronavirus pandemic has contributed to the acceleration of the introduction of advanced technologies.

“The dynamics of global changes are growing literally before our eyes. The pandemic has become not only a test for mankind, but also accelerated the widespread introduction of advanced developments in all spheres of life, ”the head of state emphasized.

In this regard, Putin pointed out the need for Russia's science and technology policy to meet the challenges of a "fundamentally new level of complexity."

On February 2, it became known that the results of the third phase of clinical trials of the Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine were published in the medical journal The Lancet. As specified, the effectiveness of the drug against the disease was 91.6% after analyzing data from 19,866 volunteers. At the same time, the indicator among the group of volunteers over 60 years old was 91.8%.

The first coronavirus vaccine in Russia and the world was registered on August 11. The Sputnik V preparation was developed by specialists from the Gamaleya Center. The registration of the second vaccine became known on October 14. It was named "EpiVacCorona", the drug was developed by the state scientific center "Vector".

Another vaccine - from the Chumakov Federal Scientific Center for Research and Development of Immunobiological Preparations - may go into civil circulation in March.

https://iz.ru/1121984/2021-02-08/putin-schel-krupnym-nauchnym-uspekhom-poiavlenie-u-rf-trekh-vaktcin-ot-covid-19

Russian President Vladimir Putin called the creation of three coronavirus vaccines in the country a major scientific success. The head of state announced this on Monday, February 8, during the council on science and education.

“Thanks to our scientists, Russia occupies a leading position in the world - I will not say anything unexpected and new now, we all know about it, - it occupies a leading position in the world in creating a vaccine against coronavirus,” said the Russian leader.

Putin also noted that Russia is the only country that already has three vaccines of its own, domestic development.

hehe.. notice how the polite and soft president , how much he enjoys ,whenever Russia make
headlines in science , during this plandemic .

What Putin is basically saying is ."hey look.. we don't suck ,see? we got a vaccine first ,we are not an outdated country as the world claims."   and unfortunately he  wrong.  

What the west claims is that Putin's Russia and his economic model is outdated nation. Means putin's administration of Russia territory and his gas station economy and they are right. They do know Russia have very good scientist ,which putin allowed the west to recruit until 2014 ,stealing talent away of Russia.    

He have to be very thankful to the soviet union system
that it was the one that developed an ambitions education revolution ,that formed the scientist that still today have become essential and critical for Russia federation to differentiate themselves
from third world nations in africa and middle east.

Thanks to soviet era scientist indeed ,but NOT thanks to the outdated Russian president , because his
new Russian outdated project , cannot take any credit for those leadership achievements ,in science  of their pharma industry ,neither in space , since all those engineers and scientist were formed during the scientific revolution times during soviet union ,that was developed thanks to the very strong education system soviet union had.

if there is any doubts..

Alexander Leonidovich Gintsburg is a Soviet and Russian microbiologist. Since 1997, he has been the director of the Gamaleya Research Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology

Born: November 10, 1951 (age 69 years), Moscow, Russia
Field: Microbiology
Education: Moscow State University (1974)
Nationality: Russian, Soviet

In fact , if soviet union had used Putin's outdated be a slave of the west system, the entire russian scientific industry will had collapsed and never reach space because he will have cut the funding for education significantly as he did , and privatized university , on top of the very low wages that russian scientist receive today  in comparison with putin's sport athletes that get new BMW's cars and medals a high paid salaries.

Not mentioning how lack of funding of putin for russia pharma industry is the reason why Russia production capabilities are so significantly inferior to all major powers ,in europe ,america ,india,britain and china.

Russia Federation scientific achievements is 100% thanks to soviet union strong legacy and its education system , this is true not only for pharma industry but also for space industry too , Soyuz success was consequence of the major colossal investment of soviet union in space industry , that today russia federation have no chance to ever match its ambition program under putin regime ,and same with nuclear industry also is a soviet industry that putin benefits enormously, without all this major education revolution an enormous investments of soviets in science , putin will had nothing to celebrate today.     I can't imagine anything why should putin should feel proud of achieving new during his administration. even Russia hypersonic missile program were already projects during soviet era.  

GorvasheB and Putin's eras are by far the most anti scientific periods of Russia past century ,The era that Russia less invested in science . Bad leadership in Russia ,poor innovation in development  have caused an enormous damage to Russia influence position in the world. Even soviet union had more influence in europe and latin america ,during soviet times.  

in more plandemic news..

Aztraseneca vaccine find more stones in the road , the south african government claims that their
results shows ,the vaccine is only 10% effective versus the virus and don't stop new dangerous strains.

"The results that we now describe against the variant, the point estimate is 10%. Clearly, that is far off the 60% mark and, even if you had a larger study you are unlikely to get to a vaccine efficacy readout of even 40 or 50%," he told the BBC's Radio 4 Today programme.

South Africa would shift to administering Pfizer-BioNTech and Johnson&Johnson vaccines, the government added.

https://sputniknews.com/uk/202102081082018248-boris-johnson-defends-astrazeneca-pfizer-jabs-after-study-reveals-jabs-provide-minimum-efficiency/

So what is the point of vaccinations then for just 10% efficiency ?    , they really need the help of  gamaleya institute , to fix that. otherwise there is no point in vaccinating with it.  this means really good news for sputnik V  in Mexico ,  if mexico retreat from their aztraseneca orders ,that will leave
sputnik completely dominating the mexican market ,with at least 80% of it ,and china the other ,15%  , moderna the other 5%.  no less than 70 million of dual shot vaccines for the russian market ,but unlikely they will have production capabilities to do that  . This is why india and brazil and potentially argentina will be producing the vaccine too in their own territory and mexico will need to do the same. Russia pharma industry have been largely abandoned in funding for production capabilities wise . doesn't look that the putin's regime wasn't ready for a biological war versus the west. but putin will claims their military will be enough to protect Russia.  

Kiko wrote:Putin considers the appearance of three vaccines from COVID-19 in the Russian Federation a major scientific success
8 February 2021

https://iz.ru/1121984/2021-02-08/putin-schel-krupnym-nauchnym-uspekhom-poiavlenie-u-rf-trekh-vaktcin-ot-covid-19

The problem with this article is that it sounds like some absurd government propaganda. Putin said this, Putin noted that. The
hack who wrote this crap is doing Russia a disservice. He should be fired. Instead of Putin drivel he should have expanded on
the leading edge aspects of the EpiVacCorona virus and given some information about the third.

https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/vaccines/epivaccorona-vaccine

kvs wrote:

Kiko wrote:Putin considers the appearance of three vaccines from COVID-19 in the Russian Federation a major scientific success
8 February 2021

https://iz.ru/1121984/2021-02-08/putin-schel-krupnym-nauchnym-uspekhom-poiavlenie-u-rf-trekh-vaktcin-ot-covid-19

The problem with this article is that it sounds like some absurd government propaganda.   Putin said this, Putin noted that.   The
hack who wrote this crap is doing Russia a disservice.   He should be fired.    Instead of Putin drivel he should have expanded on
the leading edge aspects of the EpiVacCorona virus and given some information about the third.

https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/vaccines/epivaccorona-vaccine

Problem with your suggested strategy of putting VVP on the ignore list is that it is equivalent to playing Russian news in general and Russian government news in particular along NATzO and NATzO-turd rules of the game.

There Is No Pandemic

the World Health Organization has now backtracked over the PCR ‘test’, saying (January 13th) it is merely a diagnostic tool that can assist. It now advises –

Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology.

In other words, a single PCR test should not be used for diagnosing Sars-Cov-2 infection. It’s merely a guide!

Most PCR assays are indicated as an aid for diagnosis, therefore, health care providers must consider any result in combination with timing of sampling, specimen type, assay specifics, clinical observations, patient history, confirmed status of any contacts, and epidemiological information.

So we finally have it that the PCR cannot be relied upon a diagnostic test. Which is exactly what its inventor Kary Mullis said. So forget all of the figures you’ve heard about ‘cases’ and ‘covid deaths’ – they cannot be relied upon.

things from the report..

-All the numbers based on PCR test are wrong , the inventor of that test himself ,warns nations that is not reliable. that it was only developed as a guideline but not a true evidence of being infested by the virus

-Just like dr. dan erick of california warned ,the mortality deaths rate in 2020 in US are similar to previous years seasonal flu and not by any "out of control new virus".  The nordic countries ,Russia and china way of handling the virus was dramatically different than the west. in US and perhaps UK ,they shot down the economy of working class for many months , US will be at least a year closed in some states.. while sweeden did not closed not a single day the economy.    And Russia only closed for 2 months ,to understand exactly the virus ,they were facing. After that the reopened the economy with some social distancing and mask.

However this same patters could not be the same across countries , because it have been confirmed
to death , that US gov ,CDC , IS artificially inflating their numbers , regardless of PCR test and for what reason they could do such a criminal thing?  it can't be for anything good for sure. but for some kind of fraud or agenda they doing. And this fraud ,misleading of population with their real covid19 numbers have to be done to justify yearly forced vaccinations in all population with their depopulation vaccines and endless lockdowns for destroying the middle working class and small business ,and for transforming most of their society , that more likely oppose a dictatorship in power ,to break their ability to feed their families and depend 100% on the government ,total control of society , this have to be the real purpose of this anglo western military engineered global crisis.
this engineered poverty in the working class , could pave the way for the GREAT RESET , the transfer of wealth and private property from low and middle class to the big banks. And the end of private property ,at least for the working class. only the billionaires will own properties and wallstreet stocks.

https://www.unz.com/article/there-is-no-pandemic/

The article changed everything: will Europe buy the Russian vaccine
Germany announced the surprise of the West from the Russian vaccine
Alexey Poplavsky
February 4, 2021

The success of the Russian drug "Sputnik V" amazed Europe, according to Germany. The high efficiency of the Russian vaccine against coronavirus has put the European Union in front of a difficult choice - to accept or reject Sputnik V after months of criticism. The situation is aggravated by delays in the supply of European and American vaccines to the EU.
The results of the third phase of clinical trials of the Russian Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine, published in the medical journal The Lancet, sparked a chain of discussions in the European Union regarding the possible use of the drug. According to European experts, the Russian-made vaccine turned out to be one of the safest and most effective in the world.

The effectiveness of the drug is 91.6%, among vaccinated volunteers over 60 years old - 91.8%. Antibodies to coronavirus after vaccination with "Sputnik V" were found in 98% of vaccinated volunteers. According to Die Welt, the Russian vaccine is almost as effective as the Biontech and Moderna drugs, and significantly better than the AstraZeneca vaccine.

From the point of view of the publication's observers, the publication of the results of the third phase of the clinical trial of the Sputnik V vaccine makes the critics of the Russian drug calm down, who, after its registration in Russia in August last year, declared about an “extremely risky experiment”.

Politico journalists came to similar conclusions. They indicated that

Sputnik V's results were a painful prick for Europe and a victory for a number of countries in the Middle East and Latin America, which have already approved the use of the Russian vaccine.

Among the EU countries, only Hungary has so far decided to use Sputnik V - in early February the country received the first batch of the drug. And Budapest faced a problem - any medicine in the EU can be used only with the permission of the European regulator - the European Medicines Agency (EMA).

A drug that has not received an EMA approval can only be placed on the market under a special procedure, and the EU Member State deciding to do so assumes full responsibility for it. Actually, Hungary went this way.

European interest

The example of Budapest, as well as non-EU Serbia, which not only received the vaccine, but is also negotiating with Russia to produce the drug on its territory, turned out to be contagious. Since the publication of the report in The Lancet, there has been talk of the possible use of Sputnik V in Germany, Italy, Sweden, the Czech Republic and Slovakia.

The Federal Republic of Germany did not rule out the possibility of providing support in the production of a Russian vaccine before obtaining admission to the EU.

According to Welt columnist Jacques Schuster, Moscow has amazed the West by releasing the Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine. He notes that Russia could not technologically surprise Europe and the United States since the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite.

“Only the coronavirus vaccine, which entered the market early, showed that Russia is perhaps more than Upper Volta with missiles,” Shuster notes.

The dialogue between Moscow and Berlin on these issues is going on at different levels, in particular, German Chancellor Angela Merkel spoke about the Russian vaccine during a telephone conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

However, according to Politico, in countries such as Belgium, Croatia, Latvia, the Netherlands, Estonia, Ireland and Spain, politicians are in no hurry to change their critical view of the Russian vaccine and negotiate with Moscow. Although the EU is experiencing serious difficulties due to a shortage of drugs against coronavirus on its territory and is actively trying to limit the sale of vaccines produced in the commonwealth outside its borders.

Consolidation problems stem from the lack of the required volume of AstraZeneca vaccines, as well as a pause in the supply of the American drug from Pfizer. From the point of view of the newspaper's observers, EU residents may well wonder why Brussels did not initially interact with Moscow on vaccination in such a situation.

Moreover, if Hungary, thanks to Sputnik V, begins to overtake its neighbors in vaccinations while the rest of the EU tries to solve problems, there will be many questions about the European Commission's vaccine strategy, Politico emphasizes.

In turn, The Daily Telegraph points out that the success of Sputnik V poses a dilemma for EU leaders - whether to cooperate with Russia by combining their drugs with its vaccine, or not.

Observers for the publication are confident that the position taken by Western leaders could lead to a serious shift in relations between Russia and the West.

Timofei Bordachev, director of the Center for Comprehensive European and International Studies at the Higher School of Economics, said in an interview with Gazeta.Ru that the EU leaders initially ignored the Russian vaccine for commercial and political reasons.

“Still, they didn’t want to admit that Russia was able to create a coronavirus vaccine that is not inferior in quality to European and American drugs. European companies also sought to retain this very important market. Now the situation has changed - the EU is unable to cope with the vaccination campaign, suppliers do not keep pace with supplies, and the French vaccine has not yet been created, ”the expert added.

The situation is really difficult, therefore, calls from European politicians are increasingly heard to obtain or produce Sputnik V. As Bordachev noted, they are still rational people and are not going to “violently sacrifice their own citizens”.

The issue of adoption

When deliveries of the Russian vaccine can begin to the European Union and how realistic it is to launch the production of the drug in European territory is a moot point. There are already calls in some EU countries for accelerated approval of Sputnik V by the EMA.

For example, Italian Health Minister Roberto Speranza directly addressed the regulator, stating that the European Union should not be afraid of vaccines from different countries.

According to a statement by the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), Russia has offered the EU to compensate for the shortage of vaccines against coronavirus by supplying Europe with 100 million doses of Sputnik V in the second quarter of 2021 - subject to the approval of the drug by the EMA and completion of the bulk of the mass vaccination of the Russian population.

RDIF has already submitted documents for the approval of the Russian vaccine to the European regulator. As the head of the fund, Kirill Dmitriev, noted, the review process may take February, maybe the beginning of March. At the same time, the RDIF has not yet commented on the issue of the possible production of a vaccine in the EU, the press service of the fund has not responded to the corresponding request from Gazeta.Ru.

From the point of view of Svetlana Zhurova, First Deputy Chairperson of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs, the Russian vaccine really proved its effectiveness and aroused interest in other states. According to her, at the PACE session a whole report was devoted to this topic, the European deputies reacted positively to the issue, rejecting political differences related to Russia.

“However, there is one nuance: nevertheless, at the beginning of Russia it is necessary to provide itself with a vaccine. At the moment, Russians cannot be 100% provided with the vaccine, because in some regions there is simply no vaccine.

None of the country's residents will understand if Russia starts selling the drug to the West, but there are no vaccinations for our citizens, ”Zhurova told Gazeta.Ru.

Before helping the whole world, Russia must regulate this issue, the deputy stressed. The production of "Sputnik V" abroad is quite acceptable, but there is an important point with the protection of our own developments - now this should be taken very seriously.

According to Timofey Bordachev, Russia is always willing to cooperate and Moscow has no restrictions on the supply of vaccines to the EU, which could act as a deterrent. In addition, the expert is confident that European leaders will most likely be able to overcome political contradictions with the Russian side, for the sake of supplying Sputnik V.

“I think they are ready to take this step, because in the current situation they have no serious restrictions. Still, this issue is not directly related to political relations. Non-recognition of the Russian vaccine is just a side effect of political relations between Russia and the EU, and not a fundamental issue for Brussels, ”Bordachev summed up.

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GarryB wrote:
I have no problem with Putin telling the world...the biggest stumbling block to Russian exports is international ignorance of what Russia can do and make and achieve... they need to start talking about their successes... the west is quick enough to broadcast any failures or problems... Russia needs more balance.

But i do have problems with Putin ,trying to take credit for something that him is ABSOLUTELY not responsible for it. The Russian health professionals , microbiologist and engineers and scientist from 40 years or more , were all formed during the times of the soviet union ,with a far superior and stronger socialist education system ,that invested more in education than Russia today invest. Education was fully free from a to z, all the way to university ,and it was mandatatory to go to school , the government pushed very hard for educating their people. This is not what putin is doing . Take for example of the gamaleya institute ,all its founders ,including the maker of sputnik v ,were students of the Louis Pasteur , who is the father of modern microbiology and who is a world famous figure for being the inventor of many big important vaccines. This is not a small guy , this is major leagues scientist ,like an einstein of medicine and the soviet union made sure ,that his scientist also learned directly from him. So all this efforts of the soviet union ,paid big big dividends from 10 ,20 ,30 and 40 years later allowing the gamaleya institute to become a very successful research and development vaccine laboratory.

the biggest stumbling block to Russian exports is international ignorance

And who is to blame for that Garryb? The international community or the master idiot and populist in chief vladimir Putin ?

If you ever pay attention to russian international media ,which is the most important tool Russia have
to educate the world ,that media is used more to praise the image of putin , show him whenever he
throw a fart , whenever he eat , whenever he do exercises , RT is being used to a signigicant part to promote his image , and his popularity , but fails miserably in reporting the real important things , like to counter western propaganda whenever shows up and even fail in promoting Russian business many times.  I personally never knew russia ever landed in the moon with probes ,even less mars or venus too ,never knew russia ever build a space shuttle or even less a moon manned rocket.. in school the only thing you get from the west , is that soviet union put in space the first man and first satelite in space and after that , they just quit from doing anything interesting and focus in just sending satellites to space.   So i only discovered the truth thanks to my personal research , using google and going to forums like this , and that was like a wow.. how bad is Russia in promoting their business and capabilities in in the world is unbelievable . But putin ,the only thing he promote is the military and his stupid hockey and sports , don't miss an opportunity to show whenever the russian military do any exercises, as if that could scared anyone at all.    After the massive failure of russian military hardware in armenian war ,that was completely dominated and his soldiers not even fighting murdered intentionally and putin doing nothing , it does the opposite and shows the world ,you can get away with bombing Russian military ,shooting down their aircraft and they will do nothing ,because the president of russia is very weak ,a coward and that is scared to confront those who fire missiles against them. None of those military exercises helps russia in any way ,to deter enemies if their president perception is one of a coward ,insecure and weak leader. Putin needs to stop promoting populism ,what north korea leader do all the time ,the worship of him , and use his media instead to save lives , and to constantly remind the world ,what NATO is doing in the conflicts they participate and last but not least , to promote the capabilities of their incredibly small but very capable domestic business industry and promote it to a global level . do what china is doing and compete with the west.    

Take for example the spunik V vaccine.. for nearly 6 months , Russia government and media have been completely silent on the trial results of their vaccines . This is a big deal , to promote their vaccines is very important to save lives ,  but guess what? for very long time ,the lack of information
from Russia ,from their trials , in english language and spanish language ,and later published on major media outlets and major scientific magazines like THE LANCET. This allowed the liberals in the west to have a field day with the sputnik v vaccine.

-that it never passed phase 3 trials and was not proven to work.
-that it was dubious .
-that no major international health organization recognized it
- that no countries other than venezuela and cuba wanted it.
-that if the vaccine is so safe ,why putin don't vaccinate with it?

so the lack of information comming from Russia was abysmally bad in the west. It was a perfect example of how incompetent is The Russian government , his president and his media . The job of a president , one of his most important jobs is not only to unite his society behind him ,but also to promote their nation business in the world , and in the most important business of all , that russia have today , to promote his nation , as a much more than a gas station , their media ,their government ,their president failed miserably to inform the international community, something as simple of the results  of their sputnik v trials.  and all the liberal left was having a field day ,in social media discrediting the spunik v vaccine ,even when not a single person died from it and was having major success.  So bad it was the lack of information.. So mediocre is Putin in promoting
his country business..  that the Russian ambassador of mexico ,had to use twitter , to intervene and
defend the sputnik V vaccine  , and counter directly those public popular figures in the west .

basically all the pro west ,pro nato politicians in mexico and argentina ,bolivia ,and everywhere was doing public sabotage to the russian vaccine for months ,in the same countries ,the sputnik vaccine was being started to use. and this required the intervention of russian ambassador of mexico ,to counter what one mexico senator was claiming in the media. that it was not safe , not proven to work and dangerous to use.

in spanish the controversy.. raised against sputnik v ,by mexican top senators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKLFRejW4ho

to this date GARRYB  not a single russian media in spanish have come in defense of sputnik vaccine
to counter that senator arguments.. and it had to be the ambassador of russia in mexico to use american social media ,twitter to come on its defenses.. so what's going on with russian media ? and putin government?  

all the arguments against sputnik v in latin america , ended ,you know when?
when the british magazine the lancet ,reported a couple of days ago ,the intermediary trials of  of the sputnik v phase 3 ..   So it was a british magazine who had to come to the rescue ,while russian media either english or spanish was totally absent from reporting the official results of the phase 3 trials.

So this is a very huge problem , the Putin's government have.  They are a disaster in promoting their nation ,their business and their image , what putin does is promote russia negatively , with his endless military (useless exercises) that don't deter anyone , and promote the image of putin.

is not putin image what needs to be promoted ,but russian business instead. And if the polite idiot president ,had as much promotion for sputnik ,in the west ,as he had for his own personal image ,the controversy will have never happened , and russian media will have released the reports of the sputnik 3 phase 3 trials and not depend on a british magazine to do it.

i could go on forever ,show you tons of examples of the incompetence of russian media RT and its infiltrated  5th column there ,the journalist working there ,that sabotage the media from the inside ,but that will be too long , for this discussion .  The end of story ,putin is a highly incompetent president ,he is not only bad in the true development of russia , but also highly incompetent too advertising the things , the few business they have that could benefit the world.

what i will have done ,being on putin's position , will have recruited people to fully monitor all social western media and report directly every day to the president for any important fake news controversy raised against the government or russian business . today the biggest sabotage to the sputnik vaccine comes from social bloggers ,and pro west politicians that use them . Because mexico was not approving the sputnik vaccine for example for not having documented information of phase 3 trials ,that they could show to their scientific community neither for the sputnik vaccine having any promotion from any recognized international institution or international magazine in medicine. and it was not until The Lancet , a british scientist mag ,that is very recognized world wide ,that publish the intermediary phase 3 trials in english ,that mexico announce the approbal of sputnik vaccine. Putin forgot that not many presidents in the democratic latin america west ,could risk using a vaccine with the recommendation alone of putin , because if something bad happen ,he will lose his position as president and will be blamed for any deaths by sputnik vaccine and so they need something ,much more reliable than putin's words ,that the vaccine was good ,like the recognition of a major scientific organization first or at least recognition of major international medicine magazine or nobel price winners in microbiology . Putin's Russia showed how incompetent is his administration in promoting the business capabilities russia have in the west.

The sputnik v vaccine did not gained better momentum earlier in latin america ,for the lack of information the russia government was providing to them of phase 3 trials ,that still goes on and will last 2 years at least.

GarryB wrote:

We give a shit about Nawalny, the pipeline is a way to create pressure..in that regard we use the pipeline to encourage Russia for more speed regarding the EMA certification process,

You can have him after he has served his prison term...

France is making money selling nuclear powered electricity to Germany so sabotaging gas links to Russia is their selfish strategy to keep leeching blood from a country they call an ally.

Russia wont speed up anything regarding EMA, they are not the problem.... they have been offering Europe Sputnik V for months... look at the progress Hungary has made... they have their doses and are in negotiations to make it on their territory.

Russia is not the reason Europeans are not getting the best vaccine... the EU is the reason... even the Brits are vaccinating their people faster than the EU... the EU have screwed the pooch, and after claiming the Russian vaccine was political and rushed... now they have to sell it to their people... people they have been telling Russia is a gas station and doesn't make anything of value... I suspect a large portion of the EU population wont take a Russian vaccine because they think it will be Novachok.

But Europeans have always been stupid and self obsessed...

Why should Russia not be proud of producing three excellent working vaccines so quickly, it is an impressive achievement.

I have no problem with Putin telling the world... the biggest stumbling block to Russian exports is international ignorance of what Russia can do and make and achieve... they need to start talking about their successes... the west is quick enough to broadcast any failures or problems... Russia needs more balance.

Britain vaccinates its population with a placebo. New studies say the astra zeneca vaccine has a 10% efficiency. Thats pathetic. Several countries cancelled the AZ vaccination and the EU might cancel as well.

The best vaccine with 95% efficiency is the german biontech vaccine, followed by the russian vaccine, which is easier to handle. The EU yesterday signed another contract over 300 million biontech doses and this combined with the russian vaccine which will propably certified by march, will make the AZ vaccine unnecessary

Aristide wrote:
Britain vaccinates its population with a placebo. New studies say the astra zeneca vaccine has a 10% efficiency. Thats pathetic. Several countries cancelled the AZ vaccination and the EU might cancel as well.

OK I'll rise to the bait. To say that it is a placebo is typical of the biased, bigoted stuff you often utter, I despair for the French education system sometimes.

Your statement is a bit of an exaggeration.

Yes, it appears that O-AZ did not perform well in a 2500 person, median age 31, trial in South Africa specifically targeted against their local dominant strain. Fortunately that is not the dominant strain here in the UK or even EU. We only have under 150 cases so that trial's results are no game changer for us as the O-AZ appears to be having a good impact (with just one shot) on our dominant strain. Now that probably 9+ million shots of it have been given (out of 11M total) we will be able to see results far beyond a little trial.

So far the UK's Government seems to be doing pretty well, by any measure all the figures are dropping like a stone, probably the most significant is ICU bed occupancy which is down 30% in six weeks and the backbone of that reduction is the O-AZ.

I did note a picture of your Prime Minister having the O-AZ a couple of days ago. No doubt he had access to some pretty good information before he had it so I doubt it likely they would give him a placebo.

JohninMK wrote:

Aristide wrote:
Britain vaccinates its population with a placebo. New studies say the astra zeneca vaccine has a 10% efficiency. Thats pathetic. Several countries cancelled the AZ vaccination and the EU might cancel as well.

OK I'll rise to the bait. To say that it is a placebo is typical of the biased, bigoted stuff you often utter, I despair for the French education system sometimes.

Your statement is a bit of an exaggeration.

Yes, it appears that O-AZ did not perform well in a 2500 person, median age 31, trial in South Africa specifically targeted against their local dominant strain. Fortunately that is not the dominant strain here in the UK or even EU. We only have under 150 cases so that trial's results are no game changer for us as the O-AZ appears to be having a good impact (with just one shot) on our dominant strain. Now that probably 9+ million shots of it have been given (out of 11M total) we will be able to see results far beyond a little trial.

So far the UK's Government seems to be doing pretty well, by any measure all the figures are dropping like a stone, probably the most significant is ICU bed occupancy which is down 30% in six weeks and the backbone of that reduction is the O-AZ.

I did note a picture of your Prime Minister having the O-AZ a couple of days ago. No doubt he had access to some pretty good information before he had it so I doubt it likely they would give him a placebo.

When you have vaccines with over 90% rate, you wont use one with 10% to 60% at best. Switzerland denied AZ certification. People here ask what vaccine they get and walk out when its AZ and reports come in that this also starts in UK.

I will definitly not allow to get vaccinated with the AZ trash.

The Biontech and Moderna vaccines work against all strains of the virus.

Btw the fact that the EU ordered another 300 million from Biontech yesterday is bad news for AstraZeneca. Looks like the EU plans to cancel the contract with AZ completly. AZ broke the contract, faked its trials and now its product turns out to be ineffective. The fact that over 70% of Europeans in polls say, they dont want the AZ vaccine shows, that this vaccine rather damages the vaccination program.

The AZ vaccine now has the renomee of a cheap, B-grade substitute and people say, they dont want it. The EU portrayed the company as pathetic and untrustworthy, which further crushed its renomee.

AZ has a plant in Belgium, which produces that crap. This plant can be quickly reverted to produce the russian vaccine.

So what you will see soon, is that AZ is pushed out Belgium and the plant will produce functional vaccines. The AZ garbage blocks production space for real vaccines.

@KVS so take a look at this report.  mRNA vaccines ,pfizer /moderna will kill many long term.


Scientist Predicts mRNA Vaccine Will Lead To Numerous Deaths Months After Injection! - Must See Video

Professor Dolores Cahill explains how the “cytokine storm” is an antibody dependent response of the human body and how that explains the increase in deaths after taking the coronavirus vaccine.

When you see what is going on and put this vaccine into context then we are being set up. As Gates says, still the best way to control population is vaccination. Death maybe, fertility loss maybe but i will bet she is right. Its not now its later when something else come along. No money in healthy people either.

So pretty much when you take the “vaccine” it puts the virus into your cells, so when you come in contact with future covid strains, your body will make antibodies but they will attack all your cells.because they have the virus in them.

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They have MRNA Synthetic protein which is not human & your natural antibodies do not recognize the synthetic which goes through all of your cells. Then when it comes across your natural antibodies that comes in contact with the common cold, thus a cytokine storm that breaks down your cells and your organs. It is called an “overload.”

What about the unvaccinated people ? Will they be infected from the vaccinated ones?

https://beforeitsnews.com/health/2021/02/scientist-predicts-mrna-vaccine-will-lead-to-numerous-deaths-months-after-injection-must-see-video-3037700.html


more scandalous news.. international micro biologist and one doctor predict the death of millions by (pfizer and moderna) mRNA gene therapy sythetethic vaccines .


How COVID-19 ‘Vaccines’ May Destroy the Lives of Millions! - Judy Mikovits | Dr. Mercola Must Video Monday, February 8, 2021 12:50

what the video inside.. the interview explaining what pfizer and moderna is doing on people with their vaccines ,predict many deaths by summer after people vaccinate.

https://beforeitsnews.com/health/2021/02/how-covid-19-vaccines-may-destroy-the-lives-of-millions-judy-mikovits-dr-mercola-must-video-3037714.html

How the Russian vaccine overcame Western mistrust
February 9, 2021

The Russian Sputnik V vaccine will be one of the very few that the World Health Organization recommends for mass use all over the planet. But until recently, Western experts and politicians publicly doubted the effectiveness of the development of Russian scientists. What happened and what benefits will it bring in the end to our country?

As it became known from the WHO message published on Monday , the Russian Sputnik V vaccine will be recommended for inclusion in the list of drugs for use in emergency situations under the COVAX program. Following the publication in the Lancet of the successful clinical trials of Sputnik V, this WHO announcement means that a green street is opening for the Russian vaccine for the widest possible international use. And Europe has already appreciated this and are preparing to use the Russian design.

To date, only two vaccines against COVID-19 have such a high status, namely drugs from Pfizer / BioNTech and AstraZeneca. So, without a doubt, Sputnik V is one of Russia's biggest technological successes. But how did it become possible?

World market "for the rich" and "for the poor"

COVAX is an international mechanism created by WHO in partnership with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovation. Under the terms of the program, high-income countries pay for the purchase of vaccines, thereby subsidizing the so-called funded states. That is, the poor who cannot afford to buy the vaccine on their own.

The meaning of such an undertaking for the rich countries is extremely clear - they simply do not want to have at their side a huge number of so-called failed states, which, in the absence of modern medicines, become breeding grounds for deadly diseases. No one wants the situation of lockdowns or quarantines in 2020 to be repeated with every dangerous infection. Of course, donor countries are not doing all this selflessly - in this way they are still directly subsidizing their own pharmaceutical industry, the very "big pharma" whose interests we all heard about after the start of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Until now, Russia has not been perceived as part of this kind of unofficial cartel conspiracy of Western countries. Our industry for the production of drugs and vaccines is largely stuck in the technologies of the late twentieth century, inherited from the USSR. That is, we could still make old drugs, but alas, to develop something truly new, and even more so to bring such a drug to the stage of worldwide recognition. Hence the well-known situation of the dominance of foreign drugs even on the Russian medical market. It seemed that Russia not only lost access to the attractive world market for pharmaceuticals, but was gradually losing even its own domestic one.

To be honest, the situation has not changed dramatically in recent decades - we could well be not in the technological donors of such programs as COVAX, but in their disenfranchised recipients. For example, like Ukraine, which is now humbly waiting for the "white bwana" to provide it with at least some vaccine against COVID-19. However, in Russia, in contrast to Ukraine, large biotechnological centers have survived, created in Soviet times - in particular, the Institute named after Gamalei. The one where "Sputnik V" was created.

What chance did Russia use

In fact, the aforementioned decision of the WHO only records the real situation with the international recognition of "Sputnik V". To date, in addition to Russia itself, the use of our vaccine has already been approved in Belarus, Argentina, Bolivia, Serbia, Algeria, Palestine, Venezuela, Paraguay, Turkmenistan, Hungary, the United Arab Emirates, Iran, the Republic of Guinea, Tunisia, Armenia, Mexico, Nicaragua, the Republic of Serbian (part of Bosnia and Herzegovina), Lebanon and Myanmar.

Thus, excluding WHO Sputnik V as a candidate for the COVAX program would have justified claims from recipient countries. Yes, they don’t look a gift horse in the mouth, but given the recent scandals over the availability of vaccines from Pfizer / BioNTech and AstraZeneca, even in the EU countries, such a one-sided approach could clearly discredit both the declared goals of COVAX (assistance to poor countries) and its ulterior motives ( protection of the population of developed countries from the overflow of dangerous diseases from poor and “unsuccessful” states).

Here, most likely, another feature of Sputnik V played a role: unlike the products of Pfizer / BioNTech, AstraZeneca and a number of other Western companies, Russian developments are delivered in "open source", that is, with the transfer of all production licenses and patents for places, in countries - recipients of vaccines.

That is, if desired and the necessary funds and time are available, the production of Sputnik V can be deployed anywhere, not only in Russia. Of course, with the consent of the copyright holder - a Russian company, and on the appropriate license terms. But "big pharma" does not practice this in its preparations, preferring to make money on each dose and package.

Stop-stop, the attentive reader will say. After all, the author, just as in the last part, talked about the general backwardness of Russian pharmacology. And then suddenly - not only a resounding success with the vaccine, but also the possibility of "transfer of high technologies." What is it like?

The thing is that over the past decades, a real technological revolution has taken place in pharmacology and the development of vaccines - humanity has come very close to creating drugs "at the tip of a test tube", pre-programming the desired properties and therapeutic effect. Such an approach was impossible even 30 years ago - it is enough to read instructive stories about the almost accidental discovery of many drugs popular today.

For example, the effective anticancer drug Taxol, which was almost accidentally found as a result of an extensive American search for natural anticancer substances, during which more than 100 thousand different compounds were tested. Or, as a well-known means for enhancing erection, Viagra attracted attention after old volunteers in clinical trials of the future Viagra began to suspiciously actively ask for "another dose of this pill for the heart", which turned out to be very good at their age, but completely for another reason.

Now pharmacologists have descended almost to the level of "elementary building blocks" of the universe - molecules and proteins made up of them, the main building material of our body. We can already almost 100% program a very complex tertiary structure of any protein, and this is done not as a result of complex biological synthesis, but to calculate such a structure on a computer.

Thus, research pharmacology has become widely available - under a number of conditions, of course.

With sufficient knowledge, experience and computing power, it is possible to develop drugs and vaccines with very modest resources. For example, BioNTech, which Pfizer acquired and actually developed the first mRNA vaccine, was essentially a startup. BioNTech, founded in 2008, over the past decade "sawed" the topic of mRNA vaccines in a very "chamber" version (but not forgetting to patent all of its developments), and received the first large investment from the Gates Foundation only in September 2019, shortly before the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Exactly the same effect has occurred in Russia. A "new blood" came to the industry, which brought breakthrough ideas to Russian pharmacology and science and implemented them in well-proven, old structures created back in the USSR. For example, the creator of "Sputnik V" Denis Logunov back in 2000 was just a student who graduated from the biotechnology faculty of Kursk State Medical University with a degree in biomedical engineering.

Don't miss the championship

The current situation in pharmacology is somewhat similar to the situation in the computer industry in the late 1970s. By that time, computers had been around for a good 30 years, but they weren't perceived as "personal things." For science fiction writers, yes. However, in real life, both in the USSR and in the USA - welcome to the queue for machine time, a room-sized computer will calculate everything, but not right away.

And then there was the phenomenon of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, Microsoft and Apple. Once again, a “new blood” came to the already established industry, which de facto created a new standard of computer technology - the very personal devices that we use today, desktops and laptops, tablets and smartphones. Moreover, the pioneers of reforming the industry, already mentioned by Microsoft and Apple, not only created new standards, but also began to derive the most direct benefit from their widespread use. After all, whoever owns an industry standard always receives a very important technological rent from it. Moreover, it can do this for long decades, if such a standard is not lazy to improve and develop.

Coming back to Sputnik V: Russia has done just that. Our country has created a vaccine platform standard - an adenovirus vector, which has already been used to research an Ebola vaccine, and has now been successfully adapted to combat COVID-19. Such a chance occurs often only once in history. A new industry standard has been created in Russia, which can gain wide international recognition. This success should not only be maintained, but also repeated if possible.

Text: Alexey Anpilogov

https://m.vz.ru/society/2021/2/9/1084263.html

That Serb comprador is like the NYT journalist who engaged in revisionism on the western fake stream media's smear campaign
against Sputnik V and took the vaccine himself.

These clowns know that precious Pfizer and other ubermenschen wundermedizin is dangerous and even if Covid-19 is just a
more aggressive flu they will not damage their health.

PapaDragon wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

Aristide wrote:
Britain vaccinates its population with a placebo. New studies say the astra zeneca vaccine has a 10% efficiency. Thats pathetic. Several countries cancelled the AZ vaccination and the EU might cancel as well.

OK I'll rise to the bait. To say that it is a placebo is typical of the biased, bigoted stuff you often utter, I despair for the French education system sometimes......

He is just salty that French are shit out of luck on vaccine and that UK have it

Had they gotten this ''placebo'' he would have been praising it like it was the jizz of Jesus

We have the AZ vaccaine, people just dont want it, because its shit. South Africa stops it and Switzerland refused to certify it.

So no, im not salty in any way.

Vann7 wrote:@KVS so take a look at this report.  mRNA vaccines ,pfizer /moderna will kill many long term.


Scientist Predicts mRNA Vaccine Will Lead To Numerous Deaths Months After Injection! - Must See Video

Professor Dolores Cahill explains how the “cytokine storm” is an antibody dependent response of the human body and how that explains the increase in deaths after taking the coronavirus vaccine.

When you see what is going on and put this vaccine into context then we are being set up. As Gates says, still the best way to control population is vaccination. Death maybe, fertility loss maybe but i will bet she is right. Its not now its later when something else come along. No money in healthy people either.

So pretty much when you take the “vaccine” it puts the virus into your cells, so when you come in contact with future covid strains, your body will make antibodies but they will attack all your cells.because they have the virus in them.

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They have MRNA Synthetic protein which is not human & your natural antibodies do not recognize the synthetic which goes through all of your cells. Then when it comes across your natural antibodies that comes in contact with the common cold, thus a cytokine storm that breaks down your cells and your organs. It is called an “overload.”

What about the unvaccinated people ? Will they be infected from the vaccinated ones?

https://beforeitsnews.com/health/2021/02/scientist-predicts-mrna-vaccine-will-lead-to-numerous-deaths-months-after-injection-must-see-video-3037700.html


more scandalous news.. international micro biologist and one doctor predict the death of millions by (pfizer and moderna) mRNA gene therapy sythetethic vaccines .    


How COVID-19 ‘Vaccines’ May Destroy the Lives of Millions! - Judy Mikovits | Dr. Mercola Must Video Monday, February 8, 2021 12:50

what the video inside.. the interview explaining what pfizer and moderna is doing on people with their vaccines ,predict many deaths by summer after people vaccinate.

https://beforeitsnews.com/health/2021/02/how-covid-19-vaccines-may-destroy-the-lives-of-millions-judy-mikovits-dr-mercola-must-video-3037714.html

Your text is bullshit. There are never any virus inside cells and the immune system does not attack the cells. It attacks the virus before it can dock onto cells.

Sputnik V prepares for EU launch: Russian Covid-19 vaccine clears 1st hurdle for roll-out as regulator EMA accepts application

https://www.rt.com/russia/515004-ema-accept-sputnikv-application/

PapaDragon wrote:
Some entertainment from the homeland

Here is chief Serbian comprador / crime boss / oligarch / liberal / traitor /Soros plant who recently claimed that he would never agree to take Russian undemocratic vaccine

What  is he doing in this photo, you may ask?

He is waiting in line to get a shot of that awful dictatorial Sputnik V  



Also, if you guys think that you have problem with liberal traitors and criminals on Soros payroll then you clearly haven't seen this guy

The virgin vaccine recipient. Physiognomy is real

Who is he?

Aristide wrote:


Your text is bullshit. There are never any virus inside cells and the immune system does not attack the cells. It attacks the virus before it can dock onto cells.

You are many months late in the discussion ,try looking from the start of the corona virus thread. others and me ,have been posting irrefutable evidence of official reports of many people killed by the mRNA gene theraphy vaccines ,that is pfizer and moderna.

Another info you missed is that the "pfizer vaccine" is not really property a german-american pharma vaccine, they use the pfizer name as a cover ,this is blackrock hedge fund vaccine. people of the like of george soros. which is a very powerful lobby/mafia of wallstreet investors that in alliance with other handful investors can controls 75% of the economy of United States. this are lobbies that no politician will want to have as enemies ,and with more power than presidents , that are predators , of the worse kind in destroying nations economies. They were demanding territorial land as guarantee of payment in change for yearly vaccines to brazil and argentina ,and latin america presidents show them the exit door and the middle finger.

the killing count of "pfizer vaccine" is in the hundreds already , 23 in norway ,more than 100 in newyork , about 50 in spain, and thousands of injured. moderna trials was stopped in california in one district, at least 200 hospitals for causing major serious problems to people health.

and my text is not bullshit , the website i linked , have 1 doctors in medicine and an international microbiologist experts in virus , the ones claiming millions will die from pfizer and moderna gene therapy vaccines.