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    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #2

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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:55 am

    They said on RT today that there are almost two dozen countries interested in the vaccine and that a billion vaccines have been ordered.

    They are expanding the round three tests to other countries including Brazil I think they said, they will be producing the vaccine in Russia and in other countries.

    Hopefully they will make sure poorer countries who need it can get it too.
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    Post  kvs Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:12 am

    GarryB wrote:They said on RT today that there are almost two dozen countries interested in the vaccine and that a billion vaccines have been ordered.

    They are expanding the round three tests to other countries including Brazil I think they said, they will be producing the vaccine in Russia and in other countries.

    Hopefully they will make sure poorer countries who need it can get it too.

    NATzO propaganda is going to be an all time flop on this one. The fake stream media snookered itself when it went with the
    not enough people in the test groups BS. That is easy to debunk and why would Russia have an problem getting high numbers
    of participants? It is not like the scam-ridden NATzO with its Big Pharma gouging. So the cost from test subjects is small.

    The real test of any vaccine is whether it is effective. NATzO propagandists are going to have to set up false flag
    operations around the planet to "prove" the vaccine is a dud. Any sort of real testing by the countries interested will
    demonstrate its efficacy.

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    Post  LMFS Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:52 am

    kvs wrote: NATzO propagandists are going to have to set up false flag operations around the planet to "prove" the vaccine is a dud.

    That is the problem...

    As to the tests, Kirill Dmitriev from the Russian Direct Investment Fund explained a bit about them here:

    https://en.topwar.ru/174050-strana-benzokolonka-operedila-progressivnyj-zapad-v-medicinskoj-nauke-rasskazano-o-zaprosah-na-vakcinu-ot-covid-19.html

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    Post  Hole Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:57 am

    Some media bitched around that the scientists tested the stuff on themselves. confused Like the guy that invented the Polio vaccine. I think it is a good thing that they are confident enough in there development to use it.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:27 pm

    Western Media in a nut-shell: Anti-Vaxxers are crazy, except when we say it's okay to be a Anti-Vaxxer (i.e. Russian Covid-19 Vaccine). pwnd

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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:18 am

    Some media bitched around that the scientists tested the stuff on themselves. confused Like the guy that invented the Polio vaccine. I think it is a good thing that they are confident enough in there development to use it.

    The thing with vaccines is that everyone will react differently, so the wider the range of test subjects the better the information on how it will perform generally.

    This is just the start anyway.... in 3-4 years this vaccine wont work and they will likely need a new one for 2022 anyway...
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    Post  kvs Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:11 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Some media bitched around that the scientists tested the stuff on themselves. confused Like the guy that invented the Polio vaccine. I think it is a good thing that they are confident enough in there development to use it.

    The thing with vaccines is that everyone will react differently, so the wider the range of test subjects the better the information on how it will perform generally.

    This is just the start anyway.... in 3-4 years this vaccine wont work and they will likely need a new one for 2022 anyway...

    I have seen no information aside from NATzO hate propaganda that indicates any shortage of test subjects.    It does not take three years
    to organize the number of test subjects for any vaccine trial.   That is really a one to two week effort and clearly there are many in Russia
    interested in volunteering for such trials.   But even if they were to be paid, is Russia so poor it can't afford this?

    The whole not tested enough drivel is a pure lie.

    Also, it is using mass ignorance of biotech to push plausible sounding claims.   Testing for a vaccine consists of validating the choice
    of virus fragments for sufficient immune system training to be effective against the virus.   Giving the immune system some non-distinctive
    target to attack will not generate effective antibodies and could result in inflammation if the molecules into those fragments are similar
    to those in the human body.   The NATzO fake stream media insinuation that the Russian researchers are incompetent and backward
    is pure drivel since to even get to the vaccine production stage requires all the pieces of the technology and the right level of
    scientific understanding.   Western vaccine makers need to do trials too and not smaller ones than Russian vaccine makers.
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    Post  kvs Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:31 pm

    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/russias-top-doc-quits-over-gross-ethics-violations-duterte-says-hell-be-guinea-pig-putins

    I bet this clown has a few million dollars waiting for him outside of Russia and that he will be "defecting" soon.

    What's an ethics violation in this case? Phase three trials will be conducted outside Russia and inside Russia. Rushing?
    How?

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:36 am

    "REPORTS: Russia & Germany discuss production of Russian coronavirus vaccine in Germany at meeting between Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko & German Ambassador to Russia Geza Andreas von Geyr."

    https://twitter.com/afshinrattansi/status/1294307373977305093

    Also it would be so delicious how Western media would spin Germany producing the Rus Covid-19 Vaccine. It's highly amusing that for years they referred to Anti-Vaxxers as 'lunatics' to now turn on the dime and regurgitate Anti-Vaxxer mantra when it's politically convenient lmao! lol1 Embarassed Razz

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    Post  GarryB Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:46 pm

    The orders for a billion doses suggests there will be plenty of volunteers, and the anti vaxers can sigh in relief because no one will be forced to have this vaccine.

    The main problem is that like any virus it mutates and evolves in any environment so the covid around next year might not be exactly the same.

    They wont just make one vaccine and keep using it forever... it is likely they will make one and then make a modified one next year an a further modified one the year after.

    The guy who made it said they think the vaccine should be good for two years or so, but work still needs to be done... it isn't over...
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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:04 pm

    GarryB wrote:The orders for a billion doses suggests there will be plenty of volunteers, and the anti vaxers can sigh in relief because no one will be forced to have this vaccine.

    The main problem is that like any virus it mutates and evolves in any environment so the covid around next year might not be exactly the same.

    They wont just make one vaccine and keep using it forever... it is likely they will make one and then make a modified one next year an a further modified one the year after.

    The guy who made it said they think the vaccine should be good for two years or so, but work still needs to be done... it isn't over...

    That is par for the course. That is why flu vaccines change all the time. But the issue here is that NATzO is smearing Russia's
    real achievement. The vaccine that has come out the door first actually works. That it will not down the line is neither here, nor
    there. The developers know this and it is not a reason to do nothing. NATzO Big Pharma is not going to develop a magic vaccine
    that can predict virus mutations.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:07 pm

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/thailands-covid-success-turns-economic-failure/?mc_cid=d7bf7484b5&mc_eid=5455568640
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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:43 pm

    https://sputniknews.com/infographics/202008111080136705-russias-vaccine-against-covid-19-in-facts-and-details/

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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:50 pm

    https://www.rt.com/russia/498095-russia-covid-vaccine-production/

    Russia’s health regulator registered the vaccine after it passed Phase II trials in June and July. It was decided that completing a Phase III trial was not necessary for the initial roll-out because it is based on an already proven platform. However, it's important to note that Sputnik V won't go into general circulation until January 2021, allowing another four to five months in which to further observe its effectiveness.

    Some troll upthread claimed it passed only Phase I trials. Naturally, he was spreading BS.

    Also, Phase III trials will be conducted in the Philippines and elsewhere. But the fact is that its safety has been demonstrated by the two trials
    already. Phase III trials are for testing whether it is effective in the given population. There are no Phase III trials if the vaccine is unsafe.

    BTW, the f*cking NATzO liars claimed that the vaccine is a ripoff of their precious tech:

    1) they never gave details as to how it operates. So it is basically we claim it without proof and we will also claim any
    details you give. A pure primary schoolyard punk move by the west.

    2) they claimed it was ripped off but are now clamoring that it is unsafe. Which is it you lying sacks of shit? You
    can't have your cake and eat it too.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:44 am

    kvs wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/498095-russia-covid-vaccine-production/

    Russia’s health regulator registered the vaccine after it passed Phase II trials in June and July. It was decided that completing a Phase III trial was not necessary for the initial roll-out because it is based on an already proven platform. However, it's important to note that Sputnik V won't go into general circulation until January 2021, allowing another four to five months in which to further observe its effectiveness.

    Some troll upthread claimed it passed only Phase I trials.   Naturally, he was spreading BS.

    Also, Phase III trials will be conducted in the Philippines and elsewhere.    But the fact is that its safety has been demonstrated by the two trials
    already.   Phase III trials are for testing whether it is effective in the given population.   There are no Phase III trials if the vaccine is unsafe.  

    BTW, the f*cking NATzO liars claimed that the vaccine is a ripoff of their precious tech:

    1) they never gave details as to how it operates.   So it is basically we claim it without proof and we will also claim any
    details you give.   A pure primary schoolyard punk move by the west.

    2) they claimed it was ripped off but are now clamoring that it is unsafe.   Which is it you lying sacks of shit?   You
    can't have your cake and eat it too.


    The fact that Germany is already negotiating producing Sputnik 5 is already a damning indictment against their blood-libel narrative. But this is just the beginning where the Federation will get it's foot in the door in the global biotech industry. They haven't seen nothing yet!

    Russia is already pioneering the breakthrough field of designer-vaccines, using the patients own white blood cells as a catalyst for next-gen vaccines that can be tailor-made to the customer. This breakthrough could potentially give Russia the edge in the future field of gene therapy, which will allow Russia to prevent the Western biotech cartels from engaging in Martin Shkrelli level price-gouging of critical medical treatments. The Federation will also reap the rewards and benefits of both profits as well as immense soft power in return.

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    Post  Hole Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:39 am

    The BS from the west is like a pavlovian reaction. Russia does something and they go nuts. In the end they will claim that they and only they invented the only real vaccine against Covid-19.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:27 pm

    On RT they talked to the guy in charge of the company that developed the Vaccine and he said the company had just completed work on a vaccine for another disease that was very similar to Covid, and so when they were ordered to find a vaccine for Covid they had already done a lot of the preparation and work necessary.

    Another factor was that because of the urgency they did a lot of tests in parallel instead of one after the other which greatly compressed the amount of time the development too.

    He said they are a very experienced company with over four generations of specialists so as he said if there is a young doctor looking at something he knows which experienced person he should talk to and work with to solve problems instead of looking in a book or online database...
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:19 pm

    GarryB wrote:On RT they talked to the guy in charge of the company that developed the Vaccine and he said the company had just completed work on a vaccine for another disease that was very similar to Covid, and so when they were ordered to find a vaccine for Covid they had already done a lot of the preparation and work necessary.

    Another factor was that because of the urgency they did a lot of tests in parallel instead of one after the other which greatly compressed the amount of time the development too.

    He said they are a very experienced company with over four generations of specialists so as he said if there is a young doctor looking at something he knows which experienced person he should talk to and work with to solve problems instead of looking in a book or online database...

    Where they the same company that developed the 2014 Ebola vaccine?
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    Post  kvs Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:50 pm

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/12/russia-coronavirus-vaccine-has-been-researched-for-six-years.html

    Disregard all the BS spin in this article. The main point is that Sputnik V has effectively been in development
    for several years. I guess Russians must have time travel machines. They go to the future steal precious
    NATzO wunder tech and then go back in time to "develop" it. Occam's razor and sanity dictate that it is
    NATzO who are pathological liars and thieves.

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    Post  kvs Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:56 pm

    https://www.mid.ru/en/main_en/-/asset_publisher/G51iJnfMMNKX/content/id/2838077


    17 August 201716:08
    Press release on the post-registration clinical trials of the Russian Ebola vaccine Gam Evac Combi in Guinea

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    On August 9, the Republic of Guinea launched post-registration clinical trials of the Russian Ebola vaccine Gam Evac Combi. The National Ethics Committee for Health Research of Guinea’s Ministry of Health and Public Hygiene (MOHPH) issued a permit to conduct clinical trials of the vaccine on 2,000 Guinean citizens in July 2016.

    The Ebola epidemic in Western Africa primarily affected three countries: Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia. According to the WHO, the Ebola virus infected 28,600 people and killed over 11,300 of them.

    Russian researchers were among the first in the world to respond to Guinea’s plea for help in combatting the Ebola outbreak. In response to the official request from the Guinean leadership, Russia sent a group of specialists and two lab modules of a mobile complex of specialised anti-epidemic teams by an aircraft of its Emergencies Ministry in August 2014.

    UC RUSAL (Russian aluminium company) ensured the deployment of a field hospital for 200 patients donated by Russia and organised and funded the training of qualified military medical personnel for its operation. During the epidemic, the hospital rendered free medical aid to over 4,500 people. Today it is the main field medical unit of Guinea’s Armed Forces.

    On January 14, 2016, Healthcare Minister Veronika Skvortsova announced that the Gamaleya Federal Research Centre for Epidemiology and Microbiology developed Gam Evac Combi, a combined vector vaccine against the Ebola fever. The vaccine was registered and permitted for use in medical practice on the territory of the Russian Federation in December 2015.

    On February 15, 2016, Ms Skvortsova presented the Russian vaccine in Geneva to WHO Director-General Margaret Chan and other WHO officials. An extensive presentation was also held in the Palace of Nations, as well as at round table discussions in March and May 2016 in Moscow and Geneva.

    The vaccine develops long-term immunity and has no serious side effects. It must be stored at -20C but now researchers are developing a vaccine that will work even at +4C. The Russian Ebola vaccine is the only duly registered medicine against Ebola at the national level.


    The Ebola vaccine was developed by the Gamaleya Center and is a combined vector vaccine. So it is the same institute that developed the
    Covid-19 vaccine.

    Western hate propaganda leverages the ignorance of the average western sheep who has been weened on CNN and similar propaganda since
    birth. These fake stream media orifices never properly cover these topics when it comes to Russia so the average sheep including the resident
    troll SS have zero clue about the state of Russian vaccine research and development.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:19 pm

    The coronavirus could have adapted to humans back in 2012. This is the conclusion reached by virologists Jonathan Latham and biologist Allison Wilson. This was announced August 16 edition of The of Sun .
    Scientists analyzed the records of a doctor who treated miners who cleaned a mine in the Chinese province of Yunnan from bat feces for two weeks. They showed symptoms of coronavirus: pneumonia, dry cough, pain in the limbs and high fever. The sick were connected to a ventilator. Three out of six have died.
    It is noted that the laboratory in Wuhan examined the analyzes of the miners and confirmed that the samples are similar to typical pneumonia. Based on this, the researchers conclude that the coronavirus could adapt to the human body eight years ago.

    https://iz.ru/1048940/2020-08-16/ozvuchena-novaia-versiia-poiavleniia-koronavirusa

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12413978/coronavirus-first-appeared-in-chinese-miners/
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:24 pm

    Looks like production started last week, Phase 111 trials will start next month with the target of 10.000s spread round the World and 500m doses by the end of the year. This is nor what the Western pharma companies wanted to hear.

    The Sputnik V, formally named ‘Gam-COVID-Vak’, has already begun production. On Sunday, Gamaleya Institute director Alexander Ginzburg told Sputnik that mass vaccination using the Sputnik V vaccine should start in Russia in about a month’s time.

    Russia expects to produce 500 million doses of the vaccine over the next year, with production and clinical trials expected to take place in several other countries as well.

    The adenoviral vector vaccine consists of two shots, the second of which is injected three weeks after the first one.

    Sputnik V was tested on 76 volunteers at two separate institutions – the Moscow-based Sechenov University and the Russian defence ministry’s Burdenko Main Military Clinical Hospital. Phase III trials involving tens of thousands of volunteers are to be carried out in the coming weeks. More information on the vaccine’s pre-clinical and clinical trials is expected to be published in the coming week to dispel observers’ fears regarding the vaccine’s safety.


    https://sputniknews.com/viral/202008161080185892-russias-sputnik-v-vaccine-wipes-out-earth-sized-coronavirus-in-promo-video/

    Mass vaccination against coronavirus in Russia will start in approximately a month's time, after enough vaccine samples are produced, the director of Gamaleya Research Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology, Alexander Ginzburg, told Sputnik.

    Earlier Ginzburg revealed that the Russian anti-COVID-19 vaccine, dubbed Sputnik V, will undergo post-registration studies, that will take place over the courses of 7-to-10-days. Tens of thousands of people will participate in this research.

    "Mass vaccination will be with some delay, only due to the fact that the main part of the produced vaccine will subject to post-registration studies. After that, the rest of the products will be for civilian sales. There will be a delay of 2-3 weeks, maybe a month," the head of the institute explained.

    According to the scientist, post-registration studies of the vaccine could take up to six months.

    Sputnik V is expected to be produced at two sites - the Gamaleya Research Institute and the company Binnopharm, according to Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko.

    "The two-stage injection plan helps form a lasting immunity. The experience with vector vaccines and two-stage scheme shows that immunity lasts for up to two years," the Health Ministry earlier said.

    The vaccine, which has two separately-injected components, is said to be recommended for individuals aged from 18 to 60 years old. Murashko also said on Friday that Russia will soon release information about the vaccine's pre-clinical and clinical trials to cast away criticism from the international community in regards to an apparent lack of data related to its safety testing.

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/202008161080184706-russia-will-start-mass-vaccination-against-covid-19-in-a-month-gamaleya-centre-chief-tells-sputnik/

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    Post  kvs Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:30 pm

    F*cking western hate propagandists knew full well that phase III trials were going to be conducted but still ran with the
    not tested enough blood libel that their resident troll parrots spread here.

    We saw similar BS several months ago when CNN et al. where bitching and moaning that there were too few cases in Russia.
    These slimeballs didn't apply the same standard to India. The concepts of time dependence and dynamical evolution are
    not admitted when it comes to spreading hate.

    But the fake stream media is currently messing up the west itself with its pimping of SJW zealots and BLM terrorists.



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    Post  kvs Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:59 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:"REPORTS: Russia & Germany discuss production of Russian coronavirus vaccine in Germany at meeting between Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko & German Ambassador to Russia Geza Andreas von Geyr."

    https://twitter.com/afshinrattansi/status/1294307373977305093

    Also it would be so delicious how Western media would spin Germany producing the Rus Covid-19 Vaccine. It's highly amusing that for years they referred to Anti-Vaxxers as 'lunatics' to now turn on the dime and regurgitate Anti-Vaxxer mantra when it's politically convenient lmao! lol1 Embarassed Razz

    It would be nice. But NATzO accounts for under 11% of the global population. So validation of the Russian vaccine does not depend on
    NATzO's approval. They can eat their overpriced Big Pharma shit. Attempts to sabotage the choice of countries around the world who
    are not run by NATzO quislings will fail. The propaganda is cheesy and contradictory.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:58 am

    kvs wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:"REPORTS: Russia & Germany discuss production of Russian coronavirus vaccine in Germany at meeting between Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko & German Ambassador to Russia Geza Andreas von Geyr."

    https://twitter.com/afshinrattansi/status/1294307373977305093

    Also it would be so delicious how Western media would spin Germany producing the Rus Covid-19 Vaccine. It's highly amusing that for years they referred to Anti-Vaxxers as 'lunatics' to now turn on the dime and regurgitate Anti-Vaxxer mantra when it's politically convenient lmao! lol1 Embarassed Razz

    It would be nice.  But NATzO accounts for under 11% of the global population.   So validation of the Russian vaccine does not depend on
    NATzO's approval.   They can eat their overpriced Big Pharma shit.   Attempts to sabotage the choice of countries around the world who
    are not run by NATzO quislings will fail.   The propaganda is cheesy and contradictory.


    The main importance is not about their validation but discrediting their narratives, not just from their bullhorn media but from their fake watch-dog groups too. If places like Germany, Italy, Greece, India, China adopt Sputnik 5 in mass with great success, that would be a counter-propaganda coup of the highest order of magnitude, and the Federation will benefit from the win-fall in multiple areas and directions for generations to come.

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