Viktor wrote:Similar stories in the past always led to a large military purchase
Russia opened for Venezuela a new credit line
hi Victor, can you provide a brief translate please? wonder are more jets on the cards?
Viktor wrote:Similar stories in the past always led to a large military purchase
Russia opened for Venezuela a new credit line
crod wrote:Viktor wrote:Similar stories in the past always led to a large military purchase
Russia opened for Venezuela a new credit line
hi Victor, can you provide a brief translate please? wonder are more jets on the cards?
George1 wrote:A review of equipment that Venezuela has bought:
Air Defense Artillery
S-300VM: 1 system in service with 11 on order
BUK-M2: 3 missile systems
S-125 Pechora-2M: 11 mobile missile systems
Tor-M1: 12 systems ain service, with 12 to be delivered for a total of 24
9K338 Igla-S (SA-24 Grinch): 2000
ZU-23-2 twin 23mm AA: 300 units on order from Russia. Zom 1-4 version.
Fighter aircrafts
Su-30MKV: 24
Helicopters
Mil Mi-35M: 10
Mil Mi-17-1V: 38
Mil Mi-26T2: 3
Ground Forces Equipment:
T-72M1: 92
BМP-3: 126
BTR-80A: 114
2S23 Nona-SVK:13
BM-21 Grad 122mm: 24
BM-9A52 Smerch: 12
2S11 120mm Mortar: 24
Viktor wrote:These 11 S-300VM would be great and needed but I have not found a single evidence about it.
Viktor wrote:Venezuela received several wheeled BUK-M2 batteries
Several battalions of SAM "Buk-M2E" went to serve in Venezuela
Yes, unfortunately true. It won't take much considering the very bad economical situation in the country. At least Russia didn't sell to Venezuela its top-notch equipment (S-400, Su-35).AlfaT8 wrote:Man, Russia's gonna take a hit when regime change happens in Venezuela, so many good weaponry falling into U.S hands.
Svyatoslavich wrote:Yes, unfortunately true. It won't take much considering the very bad economical situation in the country. At least Russia didn't sell to Venezuela its top-notch equipment (S-400, Su-35).AlfaT8 wrote:Man, Russia's gonna take a hit when regime change happens in Venezuela, so many good weaponry falling into U.S hands.
AlfaT8 wrote:Viktor wrote:Venezuela received several wheeled BUK-M2 batteries
Several battalions of SAM "Buk-M2E" went to serve in Venezuela
Man, Russia's gonna take a hit when regime change happens in Venezuela, so many good weaponry falling into U.S hands.
AlfaT8 wrote:Man, Russia's gonna take a hit when regime change happens in Venezuela, so many good weaponry falling into U.S hands.
flamming_python wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:Viktor wrote:Venezuela received several wheeled BUK-M2 batteries
Several battalions of SAM "Buk-M2E" went to serve in Venezuela
Man, Russia's gonna take a hit when regime change happens in Venezuela, so many good weaponry falling into U.S hands.
There's a reason Russia sells export versions.
Russia had no problem sharing its S-300/S-400 with South Korea, agreeing to sell Iskander systems to Saudi Arabia, or selling Pantsir-S1s to other Gulf Arab states; yet all of them are US client states.
The Buk series is nothing the US isn't familiar with from Finland, Georgia or the Ukraine.
Russia is about to introduce the Buk-M3, therefore the US getting its hands on and analyzing the export version of the Buk-M2, 1-2 years from now, is not that big a deal.
Viktor wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:Man, Russia's gonna take a hit when regime change happens in Venezuela, so many good weaponry falling into U.S hands.
It does not matter for the export version and export versions (one of many ) are whats being sold.
Different kind of export version exists for the countries that are targeted for hostile take over.
Viktor wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:Man, Russia's gonna take a hit when regime change happens in Venezuela, so many good weaponry falling into U.S hands.
It does not matter for the export version and export versions (one of many ) are whats being sold.
Different kind of export version exists for the countries that are targeted for hostile take over.
Werewolf wrote:The problem is not that people see the export versions as equal to russian domestic versions, but rather the US which lacks generations behind russia and even other countries in PVO will get technologies that surpass any modern version of their Patriot PAC3 or any other system not to mention the non existent modern western SHORADS the US would have when they get their hands on.
Air Defence is a strategic asset and to play into your enemies hands with technologies it does not posses as right now is a very big mistake in planning, imo.
The US isn't stupid, they drive their proxy war via european countries towards russia and russia sooner or later will have to retaliate with nukes against NATO strategic assets in Germany (mainly) but the US will still have used tactical nukes against russia, while Russia will not see fit or attempt using tactical nukes against US mainlan which would be necessary not to mention out of justice to punish the evil of this WW3 policy.
Viktor wrote:Werewolf wrote:The problem is not that people see the export versions as equal to russian domestic versions, but rather the US which lacks generations behind russia and even other countries in PVO will get technologies that surpass any modern version of their Patriot PAC3 or any other system not to mention the non existent modern western SHORADS the US would have when they get their hands on.
Air Defence is a strategic asset and to play into your enemies hands with technologies it does not posses as right now is a very big mistake in planning, imo.
The US isn't stupid, they drive their proxy war via european countries towards russia and russia sooner or later will have to retaliate with nukes against NATO strategic assets in Germany (mainly) but the US will still have used tactical nukes against russia, while Russia will not see fit or attempt using tactical nukes against US mainlan which would be necessary not to mention out of justice to punish the evil of this WW3 policy.
I think US has way bigger problem with Russian PVO than the one you mentioned. US besides your argument with which I agree does not know where to place them because protecting
US on the scale seen in Russian case would bancrupt them momentarely.
MEXICO CITY (Sputnik) — Venezuela will purchase at least 12 fighter jets from Russia, President Nicolas Maduro said Sunday.
"I will talk to [Russian] President Vladimir Putin to deliver at least 12 new [Sukhoi] Su [fighter jets] to Venezuela and replace the one lost [on Friday]," Maduro said as quoted by the Noticias24 news website.
On Friday, a Venezuelan Air Force Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jet crashed on the country's border with Columbia.
sepheronx wrote:Venezuela to Buy at Least 12 Russian Fighter Jets - President Maduro
MEXICO CITY (Sputnik) — Venezuela will purchase at least 12 fighter jets from Russia, President Nicolas Maduro said Sunday.
"I will talk to [Russian] President Vladimir Putin to deliver at least 12 new [Sukhoi] Su [fighter jets] to Venezuela and replace the one lost [on Friday]," Maduro said as quoted by the Noticias24 news website.
On Friday, a Venezuelan Air Force Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jet crashed on the country's border with Columbia.
This comes after a Su-30 crashed in Venezuela. Does our Venezuelan members have any idea as to how the aircraft crashed? Seems that Russian aircrafts are gonna keep getting bad light as Venezuela doesn't seem to have issues with is far older F-16's.
Purchase of an additional batch of Sukhoi 30MKs has been confirmed following a meeting between Maduro and his Defence Minister. This was reported by SputnikNews in Portuguese last September as updated on October 5th.Militarov wrote:sepheronx wrote:Venezuela to Buy at Least 12 Russian Fighter Jets - President Maduro
MEXICO CITY (Sputnik) — Venezuela will purchase at least 12 fighter jets from Russia, President Nicolas Maduro said Sunday.
"I will talk to [Russian] President Vladimir Putin to deliver at least 12 new [Sukhoi] Su [fighter jets] to Venezuela and replace the one lost [on Friday]," Maduro said as quoted by the Noticias24 news website.
On Friday, a Venezuelan Air Force Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jet crashed on the country's border with Columbia.
This comes after a Su-30 crashed in Venezuela. Does our Venezuelan members have any idea as to how the aircraft crashed? Seems that Russian aircrafts are gonna keep getting bad light as Venezuela doesn't seem to have issues with is far older F-16's.
Nothing solid has been published only "One crashed during an intercept mission of an unidentified intruding aircraft from Colombia on 17. September 2015.". Also i am not sure how many and how much their F16s are flying tho, you know that they already tried to overhaul them in 1998. i dont think they pulled many flying hours since then.
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