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    2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war?

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:52 pm

    I said this so many times outside of internet and in real world - Mail in ballots are simply an easy way to commit ballot stuffing and fake ballots. This is same as dead people voting. Hell, I guarantee a majority of them are simply dead people voting.

    This shit is hilarious and just goes to show that the US should only be pointing fingers in a mirror when they call someone else's elections fake when their own is riddled with fraud.

    How many nations are monitoring this election? Russians are being bombarded about "fake elections" when it is monitored by a multitude of countries. I think it is time that the US elections are monitored by a plethora of foreign nations.

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    Post  kvs Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:20 pm

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    Yeah, that's bloody likely to be real.

    No, this election is not special that would explain such an absurd turnout. If this election was special, then
    either Biden or Trump would have gotten a clear majority. Instead we have the same pattern as before with
    a nearly 50/50 split and games with marginal ballot counts.

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    Post  kvs Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:23 pm

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1324405744763129856

    So even the Republicans cannot participate in ballot counting. Hilarious banana republic BS.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:37 pm

    kvs wrote:https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1324405744763129856

    So even the Republicans cannot participate in ballot counting.   Hilarious banana republic BS.

    Quote the whole thing, it's too good:

    Corey Lewandowski tells supporters and media that despite a court order, Democrats still won’t let Republican monitors into the count.

    The county Sheriff has also apparently refused to enforce the order.


    This is a banana republic.

    Americans skipped gopnik phase and went full African junta

    This is some next level shit, what a time to be alive  lol1

    Also, they just leave one party to count votes unsupervised? Dude....

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    Post  kvs Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:56 pm

    In the graphic for Wisconsin that I posted you can see the political lean of this state. They came out more to vote in 2004 to unseat
    W. Bush but less in 1996 when Clinton was at his peak. But in neither case did you have the sort of massive swing that we supposedly
    had in 2020. The 2004 election was also charged with partisan fervour.

    One would expect in 2020 the voter turnout to be higher to unseat Trump. But given the inertia of the voters, it would not have exceeded
    the 2004 uptick by so much. Somewhere just over 75% but under 80% would be more likely. With a 50/50 split the amount of fraud
    does not have to be enormous. It just has to be strategic. So several hundred thousand votes fixed in the right places are enough
    to "win".
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    Post  LMFS Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:40 pm

    I was going to ask whether Us elections were internationally monitored, but it seems they do not even allow the other party to monitor the vote counting for God's sake

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    Post  Hole Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:13 pm

    I read somewhere there were 40 international observers in the whole country.

    In Russia the vote counting is monitored by people from all parties + int. observers + random guys from the street + cameras. Last time there were 3 or 4 incidents where some young folks were stuffing empty papers into ballet boxes and somehow the whole election was fradulent in the eyes of the western MSM.

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:15 pm

    Hole wrote:I read somewhere there were 40 international observers in the whole country.

    In Russia the vote counting is monitored by people from all parties + int. observers + random guys from the street + cameras. Last time there were 3 or 4 incidents where some young folks were stuffing empty papers into ballet boxes and somehow the whole election was fradulent in the eyes of the western MSM.

    Russia has way more observers and they get shit on all the time. I pointed this out to someone at work today who was like "Putin gets into power all the time through fraudulent elections" so I pointed that out to him and he just went quiet and said "well, I guess the people do love him".

    So at least he didn't double down.
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    Post  LMFS Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:31 pm

    The double standards regarding any non-aligned country are massive, but I really think it is simply impossible for anyone to match the shitshow US elections are, even if they tried. The system is a total joke and it is 100% run by crooks, if they were properly monitored they would be rated below Saudi Arabia. It takes industrial amounts of cheek to claim they are the world's leading democracy lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  franco Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:40 pm

    LMFS wrote:The double standards regarding any non-aligned country are massive, but I really think it is simply impossible for anyone to match the shitshow US elections are, even if they tried. The system is a total joke and it is 100% run by crooks, if they were properly monitored they would be rated below Saudi Arabia. It takes industrial amounts of cheek to claim they are the world's leading democracy  lol1  lol1  lol1


    No moral high ground for either side as both mired in the gutter thumbsup

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:33 pm

    Michigan still in play, since a number of counties are reporting more votes than voting aged people, not "registered voters", but "voting aged people".

    Like F'ing wow, the elections in Belarus looked more legit than this.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:59 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:Michigan still in play, since a number of counties are reporting more votes than voting aged people, not "registered voters", but "voting aged people".

    Like F'ing wow, the elections in Belarus looked more legit than this.

    False MI has about 7.7M registered voters around 5.3M have voted and 99 percent of the vote is in.

    MI is not in play.


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:04 am

    Hole wrote:I read somewhere there were 40 international observers in the whole country.

    In Russia the vote counting is monitored by people from all parties + int. observers + random guys from the street + cameras. Last time there were 3 or 4 incidents where some young folks were stuffing empty papers into ballet boxes and somehow the whole election was fradulent in the eyes of the western MSM.

    Right....You know I remember when Putin put up those live video feeds during an election where you could literally watch people stuffing ballots into the box after voting hours when the stations where closed.

    To the point, even the Government was like "We started an investigation".

    Very selective memory you have...
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:12 am

    From Rafael Correa's twitter lol1 :
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    https://twitter.com/MashiRafael/status/1324250926601953281

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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:38 am

    Michigan voter born in 1902, was registered to vote and his ballot was received.
    FWI, he's been dead for a while,so in America ghosts can vote, how Progressive. Rolling Eyes
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    Post  thegopnik Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:44 am

    I am really interested in a Biden election anyone think Russia can bribe Hunter? https://boards.4chan.org/hm/thread/2112319/hunter-biden-laptop

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:01 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:...Right....You know I remember when Putin put up those live video feeds during an election where you could literally watch people stuffing ballots into the box after voting hours when the stations where closed....

    Well that was the whole purpose of those cameras



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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:12 am

    Over here votes are counted in each polling station right after voting closes

    Each station has representatives of every single party that's on the ballot, all numbers need to add up 100% without errors before they all officially sign off on the results and file the numbers

    There are also often additional observers present (foreign and domestic)

    Each voter gets checked and tagged with UV spray before voting

    It means that for each polling station you automatically have dozen and often more witnesses going officially on the record that results are solid and every single one has to okay it otherwise there's a recount or cancelation depending on situation

    We have full results before next morning

    It's pretty efficient system and the funny part is that​ it was USA that came up with it so for them not to use it at home is quite hilarious


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:43 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:...Right....You know I remember when Putin put up those live video feeds during an election where you could literally watch people stuffing ballots into the box after voting hours when the stations where closed....

    Well that was the whole purpose of those cameras




    Sure and I doubt Putin would have lost anyway, but sitting there pretending Russia doesn't have its own fair share of voter Fraud is moronic
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    Post  franco Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:15 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:...Right....You know I remember when Putin put up those live video feeds during an election where you could literally watch people stuffing ballots into the box after voting hours when the stations where closed....

    Well that was the whole purpose of those cameras




    Sure and I doubt Putin would have lost anyway, but sitting there pretending Russia doesn't have its own fair share of voter Fraud is moronic

    Yes but deflecting from the serious issues that America has in it's system towards others prevents fixing the system... that should be your priority.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:59 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Sure and I doubt Putin would have lost anyway, but sitting there pretending Russia doesn't have its own fair share of voter Fraud is moronic

    What doesn't make sense is you staging your customary fake outrage, when US is embarrassing even us foreigners and proving that they have by far the worst election system of any developed country, Venezuela is light years ahead of you for God's sake. For everything good US is number 1, for everything wrong it is just like the others right? Not really...

    franco wrote:
    Yes but deflecting from the serious issues that America has in it's system towards others prevents fixing the system... that should be your priority.

    The clear priority is to make it as obscure and illogical as it gets, that is the first step to make the system easy to rig, make sure no fucking anyone understands how the hell it works. That must be the first thing a corrupt politician learns...

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    Post  Maximmmm Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:31 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Over here votes are counted in each polling station right after voting closes

    Each station has representatives of every single party that's on the ballot, all numbers need to add up 100% without errors before they all officially sign off on the results and file the numbers

    There are also often additional observers present (foreign and domestic)

    Each voter gets checked and tagged with UV spray before voting

    It means that for each polling station you automatically have dozen and often more witnesses going officially on the record that results are solid and every single one has to okay it otherwise there's a recount or cancelation depending on situation

    We have full results before next morning

    It's pretty efficient system and the funny part is that​ it was USA that came up with it so for them not to use it at home is quite hilarious



    Shh, the whole point is that they don't want democracy at home so they can pull this shit Laughing
    I'm glad Trump isn't giving in like a little Bi%^#, keep the fun train rolling!
    Although it seems like judges are shutting down his lawsuits "because there is no evidence" Wink

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    Post  Hole Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:10 pm

    Some people paid by the west stuffing empty papers into 5 or 6 ballot boxes doesn´t make the whole election a fraud. Having hundreds of people "counting" illegal votes on the other hand...

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    Post  Sujoy Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:03 pm

    Never thought that the U.S Deep State would reveal itself so brazenly.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:27 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:...Right....You know I remember when Putin put up those live video feeds during an election where you could literally watch people stuffing ballots into the box after voting hours when the stations where closed....
    Well that was the whole purpose of those cameras

    Sure and I doubt Putin would have lost anyway, but sitting there pretending Russia doesn't have its own fair share of voter Fraud is moronic

    I doubt anyone said that there wasn't any voter fraud

    There is always something funky, it's the human nature



    franco wrote:...Yes but deflecting from the serious issues that America has in it's system towards others prevents fixing the system... that should be your priority.

    Exactly

    This reminds me of all those arguments about Roskosmos where people try to justify their fuckups by pointing at something that SpaceX did wrong

    Other people's failures are no excuse for your own

    It goes for everything regardless if it's space programme or elections or anything else

    Obvious fact is that USA has problem with shoddy voting system and election theft, they need to fix it before it gets even worse instead of ignoring it (and it got this bad in the first place because they were ignoring it for so long thinking it's the perfect infallible system, nothing is perfect)


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