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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:12 am

    America creates public opinion and uses it as a weapon.... they don't listen to public opinion though... at home or abroad...

    If anything Irans revenge for their attack using ballistic missiles showed how terribly vulnerable US forces are in the region... quite interesting really...

    Together with their vulnerability to drones I am surprised they haven't withdrawn, but as SS said they are like cockroaches... an infestation you never really get rid of unless you go nuclear.

    All these years of helping governments and terrorist groups to use drones against their enemies and they never once thought such things might be used against their own forces?

    It is ironic that cruise missiles and then stealth and now drones have been the chosen weapons against Russia and over time Russia has developed and introduced not just counters to such things, but also their own capacity to attack with such things... the west first talked about hypersonic weapons but Russia has beaten the US in both the weapons and also likely the effective defence and ABM systems too.

    Funny old world really...
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:26 pm

    Starting a new thread as the old one re ISIS isn't really on subject anymore.

    This looks to be hotting up now

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    Drone Attack on Ain Al Asad Airbase

    Iraqi groups attacked #US troops at #AinAlAsad Airbase with unknown number of suicide drones.

    The attack took place in the early hours of Thursday morning. No further details have been released about the attack.


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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:27 pm

    Whoever did this its a very disruptive move. Killing a man's family and not him means revenge will be fierce.

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    Now: A US hit team killed the family (wife and 3 children) of a PMF commander in Baghdad.

    The commander, Ahmad Abdul-Mutaleb Abdul-Razak is injured and hospitalized.


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    Someone just attacked the family of a PMU commander in Baghdad. Five of the family, including three children, were killed ... Not sure who would do that, but that was a very bad, bad call ... Hope this is not true.

    Looks like it was an attempt on the life of the PMU's 45th Brigade commander. It may be a failed US intelligence operation, less likely an attack by ISIS because this was in Baghdad center. Someone in the US may have ended his career.

    Apparently, the commander house was raided by unidentified gunmen. His children, aged 14, 8 and 7, were shot and killed by the attacker along with his wife.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:55 am

    Just when you think America can do anything worse or more stupid... they surprise you again.

    Their inability to deal with drone attacks on their own forces is coming as a real shock to them... they have been assisting countries to use drones against Russian and other targets but they never thought anyone might use it against them...

    The problem of course is that their response is likely to be overreaction...

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:06 pm

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    White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki told a news conference Thursday that Washington was evaluating the attacks on US bases in Iraq and Syria and could not yet attribute the attacks to a specific group.


    18h
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    We take any threat to our forces in Iraq seriously.
    We reserve the right to defend ourselves against any threat in Iraq and Syria.


    18h
    the targeting of the US army convoy in Al-Qadisiyah
    This is the fifth attack on American positions in the last 24 hours.



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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:11 pm

    Revenge can ice cold and very unexpected


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    Iran - Commander of the Quds Force in the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, Brigadier General Ismail Qaani: When necessary, we will provide the ground for revenge against the Americans in their own homes, and by people close to them, without being present.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:28 pm

    Welp, this isnt gonna end well.
    Looks like Biden's saigon is gonna hapen again.
    The question is when, my money's on 2023.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:36 pm

    The U.S forces are for an long time in an extremely vulnerable position.

    These are not the times anymore where the U.S was present in full force.
    There is not much left to project force with from the U.S position.

    However, they do present an large target.

    In the U.S Millitary experience, nothing can hurt them.
    How can anyone?. surely, as they span the globe. Without any real resistance millitarily on the field of battle since the cold war.
    This mindset of being invincible is drilled in from the start.

    This is of course an disconnect to the reality of war.
    War does not fit to neat boundaries or perceptions.

    The price for mistakes is paid in lives and blood.

    An good demo of the U.S being vulnerable is by Iran's ballistic missile launch a year ago,
    No defensive measures, and being completely subjected to Ballistic missile bombardment.



    In this 60 minute propaganda piece they try to spin it like the U.S was in control.
    Well,....they where not. listen carefully to the soldiers and what they say.
    Johnson being propably the most honest one of all of them.
    He understood his officers message of "they are fueling 25 medium range missiles targeting us and we may not survive" very well.

    I am not sure if anyone told Jonson,..he is not only suffering from PTSD but from brain injury as well by blast damage.
    It is not his fault.
    These weapons, much like any weapon that generates an large blast like thermobaric or heavy bombs.
    Generate an blastwave that goes trough anything and interacts with everything physically.
    It can actually kill you if intense enough, without you ever being exposed to the explosion itself.



    Point here being, The U.S acts like it is the sole ruler on this earth. They do not care if a few thousand of their troops are in harm's way when they assasinate someone with an drone.
    Or start another war.
    Soldiers are just an registration number to the american empire. Plenty more from where they came from.

    The blunt reality is: they are a long way from home, surrounded by dessert and people they made sure to hate their guts in the past decades of foreign intervention.
    And they are no longer perceived as a threat, but an tumor that needs to be removed from their lands.

    Iran demonstrated very well that their weapons have an high degree of accuracy, they can strike any middle-east target at will without putting their troops anywhere near their target.

    The U.S is done in the middle east, the exact thing they tried to prevent. an more or less Syria-Iraq-Iran alliance has happened exactly because the U.S instigated and meddles with all of them.
    Normally none of these would have come together under normal circumstances. But they are all united with their dislike to the U.S and Israel.
    With Hezbollah running around in all countries becomming an actual army that employs M1 battle tanks and all..

    kind of ironic really when you think it over.

    Garry is right with the U.S tendency to over-react on things.
    But i am curious to see how the U.S is going to redestribute their forces over the world.
    They have suffered from heavy troop shortage ever since the iraq-iran campaigns and it has not got better.

    I bet they first pull out of the middle east to pull their forces to Taiwan/China.
    Then if that heats up, they will pull out of Europe as well to bolster the Pacific.

    They can not be everywhere at once, and when it comes down to it. I think the U.S will put all their cards against China.
    Either that, or they risk losing everything all at once.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:30 am

    I agree... Australia is going to get a lot more US troops... and I think a lot of Aussies will love that... for a bit anyway...

    It was the toppling of Saddam that created half their problems... I remember they even tried to justify getting rid of Saddam by suggesting he was working with Al Queda... only it turned out the Iraqi kurds were working with them instead.... to fight Saddam.

    Saddam was Sunni... but not the nutter Sunni like Saudi Arabia... the US fixed that because ISIS is nutter Sunni and they are the remains of Saddams men who were not allowed to remain part of the Iraqi army any more.

    By getting rid of Saddam and giving the Iraqi people the vote of course the majority are Shia and have more in common with Iran than with the US...

    In fact George Bush Senior called on the Shia majority to rise up against Saddam just after the coalition pushed Iraqi forces out of Kuwaite... and butchered the retreating Iraqi forces. When they did rise up Bush didn't do squat to help them because obviously his advisors are pro Saudi Arabia and anti Iran so they didn't want another Shia dominated country in the region... so Saddam put that rebellion down the only way he knows how... lots of blood.

    The Iraqis were under no illusions when the Americans invaded this time around... securing the oil fields first and just encircling the cities to be dealt with when they could be bothered was an excellent indication of what their priorities were and are.

    The American secret... break oil states... even if they end up hating you to rebuild and recover their only income is oil so when they pump that to pay for teh rebuild the US benefits because of the excess oil pushed onto the market. In this case they controlled the rebuild... just like in Afghanistan... money for the boys... Haliburton, which is a construction company with a guy named Dick Cheney on their board of directors made something like 35 billion in about 5 years... and I bet they actually built **** all...

    The old story on the books you have 500 workers... of course you only hire 100 so 400 wages go into your bank account per week.... things get broken or damaged or lost... but actually get sold on the black market... you get what you sell it for and screw the insurance companies to pay for it...

    They just broke stuff in Afghanistan too.... no accountability... who knows where the money went... no one cares...
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    Post  Isos Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:40 am

    US forces around the world are all weak and able to defend only against small groups.

    The doctrine of their military for the last 30 years was to face some kind of guerilla resistance.

    They have nothing to fight a modern military using real weapons. Iranian missiles would hit all their targets if they launch it. US can make a good ABM system but even then the corrupted MIC would sell it to expensive for them to buy the quantity they need.

    Against Russia or China, the supply line are just to huge to face them. I saw a documentary comparing US war on iraq  and Hitler attack on USSR. Both had issues after advancing 400km. Against China or Russia those supply lines would be 1000-2000km long and still atacked by missiles.

    Their small bases around the world are enough to supply the front against small groups but certainly not against bigger players. They are pretty easy to destroy.

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    Post  franco Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:43 pm

    Someone striking US bases in Iraq...
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    Post  nero Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:37 pm

    https://twitter.com/spriter99880/status/1502779818781384706

    Rumors that the missiles (Fateh-110) came directly from Tabriz, Iran.

    An unknown amount of missiles thus far. Allegedly >=10. Conflicting reports on what the target was.

    Might be a response to the bombing in Syria, which killed several IRCG members.

    Looks like some kind of free-for-all is starting in the world though. There goes US hopes of getting some sort of oil deal from Iran Smile

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:58 pm

    nero wrote:https://twitter.com/spriter99880/status/1502779818781384706

    Rumors that the missiles (Fateh-110) came directly from Tabriz, Iran.

    An unknown amount of missiles thus far. Allegedly >=10. Conflicting reports on what the target was.

    Might be a response to the bombing in Syria, which killed several IRCG members.

    Looks like some kind of free-for-all is starting in the world though. There goes US hopes of getting some sort of oil deal from Iran Smile

    Probably not Israel but I'll go with revenge served very old and cold.

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    Post  nero Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:59 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Probably not Israel but I'll go with revenge served very old and cold.

    There are reports they've hit all Mossad bases within Ebril, Iraq. It's all speculation so far though.

    I wonder where American air defenses are Smile

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    Post  franco Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:08 am

    nero wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Probably not Israel but I'll go with revenge served very old and cold.

    There are reports they've hit all Mossad bases within Ebril, Iraq. It's all speculation so far though.

    I wonder where American air defenses are Smile

    Wondered if it was against Israel with a message to the US myself. Time will reveal.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:12 am

    Going by previous history I would say with this ballistic missile attack US air defence units will be withdrawn immediately... like they were last time... remember it is absolutely critical for US systems to not fail in the field... which is ironic because US air defence systems don't sell by reputation... they sell by corruption and CAASTA... either a kick back to the US or US bullying.
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:57 am

    nero wrote:https://twitter.com/spriter99880/status/1502779818781384706

    Rumors that the missiles (Fateh-110) came directly from Tabriz, Iran.

    An unknown amount of missiles thus far. Allegedly >=10. Conflicting reports on what the target was.

    Might be a response to the bombing in Syria, which killed several IRCG members.

    Looks like some kind of free-for-all is starting in the world though. There goes US hopes of getting some sort of oil deal from Iran Smile

    Iran against Israel/US with Hezbollah and Palestine
    Venezuela against Columbia
    China against Taiwan
    Serbia against Kosovo
    Serbia and Croatia both against Bosnia
    India against Pakistan
    Islamist insurrection in Western Europe
    Azerbaijan against Armenia (again)

    Yep its getting interesting
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    Post  lyle6 Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:29 am

    In other news. Ft Hood covid deaths have spiked by 10000% Razz

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:08 am

    Iraq demands that the US leave the country immediately

    Another Niger-France situation.  

    After a massive missile strike this morning on ain Al-Asad base, Iraq's PM wants U.S.  troops out of his country fast, and is reportedly blocking any new troops from entering.

    Al-Sudani: "Let's agree on a time frame that is, honestly, quick, so that they don't remain long and the attacks keep happening."

    Iraq is full of illegal US bases that the US refuses to withdraw despite official Iraqi demands.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:14 am

    Ballistic Missiles Hit US Troops at Base in Iraq, US Central Command Admits

    US forces occupying Iraq's Ain al-Asad air base were targeted and injured, base infrastructure clearly damaged during ballistic missile attack carried out by Iraqi-based militias.

    Via Reuters (https://reuters.com/world/us-personnel-suffer-minor-injuries-iraq-base-attack-us-official-2024-01-20/):

    The U.S. military's Central Command said in a statement that the base was hit by multiple ballistic missiles and rockets fired by Iranian-backed militants from inside Iraq. The statement did not confirm the extent of any U.S. injuries but said personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injury.

    US missile defenses failed to stop all missiles. No mention in the article is made of the type of defenses the base had, but it has been previously reported (https://defensenews.com/land/2020/04/13/patriot-missile-defense-systems-now-active-in-iraq-say-us-officials/) the base is protected by the Patriot system.

    Reuters:

    Offering a sense of the scale of the attack, Central Command said most of the missiles were intercepted though others hit the base.

    It is interesting Reuters avoids naming the missiles as Patriots.

    Attacks like these will only further stretch/expose as inadequate US air defense resources already disappearing rapidly and performing poorly in places like Ukraine and previously, Saudi Arabia.

    The US occupation of the Middle East is strategically and politically untenable, just as its proxy war in Ukraine or its growing confrontation with China, yet Washington has only one gear - forward.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:46 am

    Looks like the AD was swamped by incoming.

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    U.S. Central Command has now Confirmed that Al-Asad Air Base in Western Iraq was Targeted earlier today by Iranian-Backed Forces utilizing several Theatre Ballistic Missiles and Rockets, with a Majority of them being Intercepted by the MIM-104 “Patriot” Surface-to-Air Missile Battery at the Base; however, the Munitions which did Impact the Base caused Damage and Injuries concurrent with a Traumatic Brain Injuries to several U.S. Seevicemembers and Serious Injuries to 1 Member of the Iraqi Security Forces.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:20 am

    Just got headaches like the last time.  Cool


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    The New York Times quoted Pentagon officials:

    At least 70 American soldiers have been injured in resistance attacks on American bases in Iraq and Syria.


    The organization "CENTCOM" announced on Sunday morning that they are conducting examinations and assessing the amount of brain damage inflicted on a number of American soldiers during the rocket attack on the "Ain al-Asad" base on Saturday evening.

    In this statement, Centcom claimed that the American air defense intercepted most of the missiles, but an Iraqi soldier was injured in this attack.


    British newspaper "The Guardian": The U.S. military's assessment of the attack targeting the "Ain al-Asad" base is more serious than the Iraqi narrative

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    Post  nomadski Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:16 pm





    I guess the US forces , have it coming , since they took sides in favour of Israel against Palestinians . They were simply not content with supplying ammo by ships , and had to intercept the axis fighters in Iraq and Syria and Yemen missiles . They are not neutral . Their bleeding Hearts comments about using smaller bombs to lessen the damage is indicative of their mindset , while bland statements about the two state solution , no doubt made to appease the Arab street . Winning the Battle and loosing the war .

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:36 pm

    Looks like the US may finally be viewing their sitting duck units spread across Iraq/Syria as a potential limiter on their potential actions in the ME so will start pulling them out.

    No doubt they will at the same time restart their ISIS operations, so they can claim 'look what happens when we pulled out' and 'we were successful at subduing ISIS'.

    Amid attacks on its bases, the United States wants to escape from Iraq

    ▪The Pentagon said it is beginning negotiations with Baghdad on reducing the number of its military in Iraq and ending the military mission of the American coalition.

    ▪Previously, against the backdrop of attacks by pro-Iranian forces on US military targets, the Prime Minister of Iraq called for the withdrawal of American troops from the country. Now the Iraqi Foreign Ministry reports the success of negotiations with the United States on the withdrawal of its troops from the country.


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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:47 pm

    "bilateral cooperation" So no 'coalition' forces, just US. Laughing Laughing The US is like a tick, you can remove its body but the head stays put.


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    🪖 The head of the Pentagon confirmed that the US will start negotiations in the coming days to replace the "coalition military presence" in Iraq with "bilateral cooperation".

    As early as 2020, the Iraqi authorities demanded that all foreign troops leave the country's territory

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