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    Post  TR1 on Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:59 pm

    Iraq is refusing to take the latest BTR-4 batch from Ukraine.
    They have been sitting on their boat for months @ pier, after the Iraqis found faults on some of the vehicles.
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    Post  TR1 on Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:15 am

    Photo:

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/38024980/925016/925016_original.jpg

    The cracks on the BTR-4s.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:09 am

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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:17 pm

    Last night the Mi35M helicopters got their baptism of fire. Three of them entered into combat operations against ISIS in the anbar deserts and valleys.

    Didn't take long!!

    If Mi28Ns are delivered sometime soon, we may see them in combat before spring.
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    Post  Flyboy77 on Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:01 am

    sheytanelkebir wrote:Last night the Mi35M helicopters got their baptism of fire. Three of them entered into combat operations against ISIS in the anbar deserts and valleys.

    Didn't take long!!

    If Mi28Ns are delivered sometime soon, we may see them in combat before spring.

    Good news. Probably the first time that the Mi-35M has seen combat then. Is there any video of the operations?
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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:07 pm

    not publicised yet. but videos from operations by King Airs and AC-208s have been published so its only a matter of time before we see combat footage.

    aparently they used a mix of missiles, rockets and cannon fire... so should be pretty spectacular stuff!
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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:31 pm

    Good news. Probably the first time that the Mi-35M has seen combat then. Is there any video of the operations? wrote:

    It has already seen combat in caucasus, if i recall right there was even a guncamera video of it somewhere. Where the operation leader yells at the crew.
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    Post  a89 on Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:42 pm

    This video shows the Mi-35M attack. It is really hard to avoid being detected by thermal sights if you don't have the proper gear.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMS7k-zVr0
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    Post  Hachimoto on Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:18 pm

    a89 wrote:This video shows the Mi-35M attack. It is really hard to avoid being detected by thermal sights if you don't have the proper gear.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMS7k-zVr0

    how to know it is mi-35?
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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:48 pm

    those videos are of AC-208 combat caravans firing Hellfire missiles.

    since the AC-208s carry only 2 hellfires, most of the terrorists inevitably escape the attack by scattering.

    which is why the army is employing now Mi35M and Mi17s with loads of rockets....

    from today... Mi35M over Anbar.

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    Post  Flyboy77 on Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:41 am

    sheytanelkebir wrote:those videos are of AC-208 combat caravans firing Hellfire missiles.

    since the AC-208s carry only 2 hellfires, most of the terrorists inevitably escape the attack by scattering.

    which is why the army is employing now Mi35M and Mi17s with loads of rockets....

    from today... Mi35M over Anbar.

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    Awesome. Please post more Videos or photos when they come up?
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:12 pm

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/705873.html

    Good thing Iraq did not take the BTR-4s, look at those hull cracks :O !
    Apparently they were created in a insufficiently prepared, cold space and hence cracked on cooling.
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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:15 pm

    I blame the russians!

    if the Ukrainians had cheap gas they would have stuck to the correct smelting and cooling processes without corner cutting!

    /s
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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:28 pm

    Iraq seems to have very deep political divisions that tie its hands.

    First the Kurds showed the central government who's boss when they attempted to send forces there, and now the trouble with ISIS

    Let's hope that the broken political system won't infringe too much on the Iraqi military's effectiveness.
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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:31 pm

    TR1 wrote:http://bmpd.livejournal.com/705873.html

    Good thing Iraq did not take the BTR-4s, look at those hull cracks :O !
    Apparently they were created in a insufficiently prepared, cold space and hence cracked on cooling.

    And altogether the production quality seems to be just shit, pardon my Francais.

    Rusted bolts, ready-to-peel paint..

    Mind you some Russian enterprises are no better.
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    Post  zg18 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:56 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Iraq seems to have very deep political divisions that tie its hands.

    First the Kurds showed the central government who's boss when they attempted to send forces there, and now the trouble with ISIS

    Let's hope that the broken political system won't infringe too much on the Iraqi military's effectiveness.

    Not really , Kurds and new Iraqi elites are nowhere near that level of enmity like it was during Saddam times , and all these rebellions in mostly Sunni Anbar province are sponsored by GCC.

    What doesn`t kill you it makes you stronger , at the end of day , Iraq may well have the best COIN troops at disposal in MENA region (excluding Israel) which only need to be enlarged.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Special_Operations_Forces
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:42 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsuID_YeQFU

    Wow, nice video from Iraq. Wonder if they will use the Mi-35 as a SOF transport bird as the video seems to imply.

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    Post  Werewolf on Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:06 am

    They are lulled pretty tight into american military industrial complex, M4/16s for an iraqi harsh environment...bad choice.
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    Post  Flyboy77 on Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:38 am

    Iraqi Mi 35 and Mi 17 strikes Al Qaeda in Khalidiya Island

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=90c_1390410277

    00:36 - anyone think that could of been a AT-6 being fired?
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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:09 pm

    you all may have heard of Iraq's recently released order for Ah64E apaches.

    30 helos (including 6 loaners)
    about 1500 hellfires in three contracts.
    standard setup with training and support.

    cost?

    $6.2Bn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    over $200M per apache.

    is that a new world record for gouging?
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    Post  Werewolf on Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:30 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:you all may have heard of Iraq's recently released order for Ah64E apaches.

    30 helos (including 6 loaners)
    about 1500 hellfires in three contracts.
    standard setup with training and support.

    cost?

    $6.2Bn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    over $200M per apache.

    is that a new world record for gouging?

    Someone is with the entire head in someones elses ass.


    PS: All my fears that Iraqi MoD is deeply stuck in the american ass getting more and more reinforced and propably true.

    3 bln USD for Apaches alone without the hellfires, training and support costs have still a price tag per unit of roughly 100 mln USD, that is the worst deal in history of deals.
    No indepented country would buy such mediocre quality for so much money when they already have bought superior systems like Ka-52 along with Mi-28 and Mi-35. It is a nightmare when it comes to logistics and maintenance costs.

    My fear this helicopters especially Ka-52 are actually for USA to study, they did such sceams more than once before with MSTA-S and T-80's bought by Marocco and immidiatley shipped to US.

    It smells to much like someones crapped in the wrong yard.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:53 pm

    00:36 - anyone think that could of been a AT-6 being fired?

    Yes.

    Fairly low launch signature and single weapon fired and single point target hit suggests it was an ATGM rather than a rocket attack.


    Rockets are generally fired at area targets and fired in volleys.

    I would suspect the weapon fired was either a Shturm or Ataka... both are fairly similar... the former likely in stocks but likely not in production as they would be replaced by the better performing Ataka.

    I believe the ASCC codename for Ataka is AT-9.
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:08 pm

    T-5000 orsis in Iraq

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    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:19 pm

    Sheytan.
    Thanks for your updates on the Iraqi situation and arms orders.
    Looks like your MoD ordered anything that they could get their hands on with delivery promptness being the top priority.
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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:01 pm

    I think its easy to understate how desperate the military situation is in Iraq right now. They're even willing to pay top money for mothballed L159s from Czech.

    Most of their M1A1SA tanks are in the depot due to maintenance issues (60+ tanks out of 140 total!) and the ones "in the field" don't have HE shells because the US trickle supplies the Iraqis by C5 galaxies with even basic munitions and parts.

    Hellfire missiles are used up as soon as they arrive, and they have nothing heavier to use in a "battlespace" which is about 200,000km2 ... whilst having an air force with a grand total of 3x "Combat Caravans" for supporting the Iraqi Army in the field (carrying 2x hellfires each).

    I believe that Iraqis won't be buying the 175 Abrams that they were supposed to get this year, nor the 250 M2A2 Bradleys... and I suspect the 50x Strykers won't be bought either.

    Put that on top of the cancelled BTR4 order... and you see a massive gap in capability in the army.... hell even their fleet of 10,000 uparmoured HUMVEES are breaking down regularly since most are over 15 years old by now (they were supplied free by the US as second hand vehicles) and have done more than 100,000km+ each in a bad environment and constant field use.

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