US-Iran standoff 2019- #2

USS Nimitz ordered back to Persian Gulf after Iran's supreme leader threatens revenge over slain scientist

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/11/28/nimitz-back-in-persian-gulf-iran-vows-revenge-for-killing-of-nuke-scientist/

https://www.foxnews.com/world/pentagon-orders-uss-nimitz-back-to-persian-gulf-after-irans-supreme-leader-threatens-revenge-over-slain-scientist

But still are you expecting them to start telling the truth now?

US stealth fighters spotted by Russian container radar near Iranian border

The first over-the-horizon radar station (radar) "Container", which took up combat duty on December 1, 2019, has fully confirmed its capabilities to control the airspace at a distance of several thousand kilometers from the Russian border. This was reported by the RTI press service.

Over the past period of time, the means of the ZGO "Container" radar have detected and determined the trajectory parameters of strategic, reconnaissance and tactical aircraft. aviation, including flights of stealth fighters from NATO countries

- said in a statement.

For example, on January 8, 2020, the Russian "Container" radar station recorded six fifth-generation F-35 American stealth fighters located at the Iranian border a few hours after Iran launched an attack on American military bases in Iraq. The Russian radar station fully controlled all US preparations for a retaliatory strike, tracking the movement of all aircraft in the area, including the stealth aircraft.

Currently, only one over-the-horizon 29B6 "Container" type radar is being built on alert. The receiving complex of the station is located in Mordovia near the settlement of Kovylkino, and the transmitter of the station is located in the Nizhny Novgorod region. The radar monitors the airspace over Europe to great depths.

In total, four such stations are planned to be deployed: one each in the west and east of the country, two more will be deployed in the north-west and south directions. Stations are specially built inland, as they have a “dead zone” of 900 km.

Radars are designed to detect all types of aerodynamic targets, including airplanes, cruise missiles, hypersonic aircraft and so on. "Container" is able to control flights of any air targets at a distance of about 3 thousand kilometers in the sector 240 degrees. A radar can simultaneously track over 5 of thousands of airborne objects of various types, including small ones.

https://en.topwar.ru/177684-amerikanskie-stels-istrebiteli-u-granic-irana-byli-obnaruzheny-rossijskoj-rls-kontejner.html

In a new show of military might, two American bomber aircraft flew from the United States to the Middle East on Thursday, local time, in a round-trip mission that US officials said covered a wide swath of the region and was a direct message of deterrence to Iran...

https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/us-b-52-bombers-fly-to-middle-east-in-mission-to-deter-iran-20201211-p56mlb.html

If Iran attacks &/ captures any US warship/sub before a direct mil. hostile action on itself, that's an act of war, asking for B-1/2/52 & F-15E/18E/F strikes on it, with Turkey not missing an opportunity to come & take Azerbaijan. 
The Gulf of Tonkin incident was used to justify attacking N. Vietnam leading to a long war in SE Asia with Ms of killed, maimed & displaced. Iran should be careful not to repeat it.

Trump Threatens Iran Over Iraq Embassy Attack
US Marine Corps General Mackenzie: We're not going to go to war with Iran	US Considering Closing Embassy in Baghdad Over Rocket Attack   Netanyahu Hints Military Action Against Iran Is on the Table   Report: Israel Using Gen. Milley to Pass Messages to Biden About Iran

I suspect that Trump will order a strike as a parting shot- his foreign & domestic policy essentially failed & he'll do anything to make the Biden admin. clean up his mess & fail at that too.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

Trump Threatens Iran Over Iraq Embassy Attack
US Marine Corps General Mackenzie: We're not going to go to war with Iran	US Considering Closing Embassy in Baghdad Over Rocket Attack   Netanyahu Hints Military Action Against Iran Is on the Table   Report: Israel Using Gen. Milley to Pass Messages to Biden About Iran

I suspect that Trump will order a strike as a parting shot- his foreign & domestic policy essentially failed & he'll do anything to make the Biden admin. clean up his mess & fail at that too.

He just sounds like a tbh....terror master this terror mast that.
Also I doubt trump has the support for such. Military will not let it happen. Into the final throes of his leadership. Pardon some people here and there and will attempt to ring fence his homily from prosecution but not much else.

We are getting to the end of Trump's mandat. The attack could come this week or the next one. Some day it will be the 3rd January.


Tony
@Cyberspec1
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27 déc.
#Iran #Israel #USA
Israeli Sub equipped with Cruise Missiles has reportedly crossed the Suez Canal & is on it's way to the #Persian_Gulf. It could potentially take part in US action against Iran. The Iranians have said they will *sink* the Sub should it arrive near their waters

Only 23% of Americans can correctly find Iran on a map.

https://www.russiadefence.net/t6939p775-decline-of-the-western-society#312497

Only 23% of Americans can correctly find Iran on a map.

For which Iran should be truly grateful.

I seem to remember something like 80% of Americans don't have and have never used a passport and that in a lot of states most people have never been across state lines...

GarryB wrote:

Only 23% of Americans can correctly find Iran on a map.

For which Iran should be truly grateful.

I seem to remember something like 80% of Americans don't have and have never used a passport and that in a lot of states most people have never been across state lines...

As the saying goes...."War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." - Ambrose Bierce

I think that we humans have much less freedom than we believe . Would God leave the world in the hands of infants?

Which is a conflicting way to think.

I really don't think it is healthy to blame all the bad things in the world on a god.

Being an athiest I do not feel bound by the rules of any religion, only the rules of the human society I currently live within. There is a lot of overlap because most ethical rules are based on religious ones.... or is that the other way around?

So we are all governed by natural laws.

Not if you look at the rate at which we break them.

Although we feel that we are the masters of our own destiny.

To a degree we are, though it is easier to ruin our lives than to enrich them... I could go out right now and murder someone in cold blood and ruin my planned future of not being in prison.... but the society and culture I grew up in would teach me not to do that as an easy option because if everyone did that I could be the one getting murdered, so society frowns on this...

For this reason , I worry less. Since I know that the world is in the hands of it's keeper. But most people deny this.

So WWI and WWII was gods plan?

I personally think if there is or are gods then this universe is a testing pit to try souls and to judge them on what they do and why.

Giving us free will and yet expecting blind faith is irrational isn't it?

Free will means it is our fault, and making us not just able to sin but actually prone to sin and then relying on some of these sinners to carry your word to the rest is flawed to say the very least.

With so many sinners about the risk of someone controlling a group of people who can't read and therefore cannot get gods message first hand from any bible, and indeed the fact that any bible is just an interpretation of someones word to start with makes it terribly prone to abuse... we constantly hear people saying they believe something because it is in the bible... which bible and who checks?

Most languages are open to interpretation and after being translated several times by amateurs the chances of the real meanings being lost or distorted is enormous... the people who translated these texts got the job because they wrote pretty, not because they were linguistic experts. In fact from what I have read they often drew pictures of men shoving things up their arses in the margins of the pages like a university joke magazine.

Since they see war and disease and pain and predation.

In the olden days few people lived past their 40th birthday and very few lived much more than 60 years at best, so at most 60 years of suffering and pain as a test for all eternity is probably a very exhaustive test to see what sort of person you are and could be.

Yet they wish they could see God or an Angel. But if they saw God , many would hate through ignorance. And if they saw an angel, then the angel would part their body from their sinful souls.

If god is everywhere and made everything surely a minute to say high and to look after his stuff a bit better would not be too much to ask.

The alternative is that god expects us to not ever actually know the truth but take the word of a lot of other people who are by their own admission sinners.

Just seems to me a lot simpler to appear to everyone... even if he did it in groups of a couple of thousand at a time... sure there would still be people who think it was a mass illusion or the government did it with new technology but for most normal people they could accept it and get some peace.

It seems to me that in practise gods will actually seems to come down to luck.... good or bad... which means there is no way you can be sure there actually was any real intervention or not, which makes god a little unnecessary.

So they killed our children. And their children have replaced our missing children. And they have to now kill their own. Poetic justice.

Which essentially comes down to they are bullying you so you gloat when they get bad luck, like getting caught and told off by their mum in front of everyone...

Video in the link.


60 Minutes
@60Minutes
In January 2020, Iran launched the largest ballistic missile attack ever against Americans. 60 Minutes has obtained unreleased footage of the incoming warheads.

Sunday, David Martin reports on the attack that nearly caused war between the U.S. and Iran

https://mobile.twitter.com/60Minutes/status/1365330714720407557

Biden will demand unreasonable conditions on Iran. It is all BS window dressing designed to paint America as peace loving.
Biden has already attacked "pro-Iranian" militias in Syria. So which is it? Peace or war?

This attack didn´t "nearly cause" war between Iran and the dumbasses in Washington. It was the murder of General Soleiman.

Hole wrote:This attack didn´t "nearly cause" war between Iran and the dumbasses in Washington. It was the murder of General Soleiman.

Hard to tell that to a dumbass unfortunately...