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    Post  Vann7 on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:59 pm


    Turkey have angered both Americans and Russia.. the most likely thing will happen , is either
    they go a long with erdogan ,support him until they no longer useful for them.. ie.. turkey army
    losing control of idlib for example.. could be that signal to remove him... or they replace him now
    with a more radical one ,that is loyal to US and ISRAEL.

    The sad thing in all this.. is that putin have given S-400s to erdogan.. so americans could
    give him mocked patriot airdefenses in change for allowing the american military to study
    reverse engineer their s-400..

    is good that erdogan have shown his claw at Putin so early in the starting relation ,so that the moron
    now knows , he can't give any more consecion to erdogan .as he wanted.. no s-500 technology ,no su-57 ,no su-35 ,no electronic warfare tech ,so that later he pass it to NATO and no advance weapons. no help to turkey military in the development of any weapons.. simply no more cooperation with turkey
    in defense weapons..or in any advance technology.. let them depend on US for its self defense.
    hopefully those s-400s given to turkey ,were in reality s-200 tech ,with a S-400 make up..but this is unlikely .




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    Post  nomadski on Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:58 pm


    Good to see the Rats and Rat master launching " counteroffensive". This means they have to come out of their Rat holes at the same time and collect together in one location. So that Syrian airforce and artillery can efficiently take care of them. So the SAA is doing well. Gaining ground. Forcing set battles. Using airforce. Keep up the good work. Job almost finished..

    Regarding this report of Russia hitting Turk positions. This is not confirmed. Syria also operates these planes. Russia said that they target advancing Rats. Not Turk artillery. Unless the Turks were advancing with the Rats. The Turks it seems, said they were hit by Syrian airforce. In this case unless Syria confirms that it also had operated against them, then it seems the Turks are either wrong in identifying planes as Syrians. Or more likely they have accepted to retreat. In the second case, they better do it sooner, without wasting lives of their troops.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:10 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    Turkey have angered both Americans and Russia.. the most likely thing will happen , is either
    they go a long with erdogan ,support him until they no longer useful for them.. ie.. turkey army
    losing control of idlib for example.. could be that signal to remove him... or they replace him now
    with a more radical one ,that is loyal to US and ISRAEL.

    The sad thing in all this.. is that putin have given S-400s to erdogan.. so americans could
    give him mocked patriot airdefenses in change for allowing the american military to study
    reverse engineer their s-400..

    is good that erdogan have shown his claw at Putin so early in the starting relation ,so that the moron
    now knows , he can't give any more consecion to erdogan .as he wanted.. no s-500 technology ,no su-57 ,no su-35 ,no electronic warfare tech ,so that later he pass it to NATO and no advance weapons. no help to turkey military in the development of any weapons..  simply no more cooperation with turkey
    in defense weapons..or in any advance technology.. let them depend on US for its self defense.
    hopefully those s-400s given to turkey ,were in reality s-200 tech ,with a S-400 make up..but this is unlikely .






    Turks have been forced to intervene by Putin's maniacal support of the tyrannical Alawite minority regime in Syria.

    Turkey does not want to have a humanitarian disaster on its hands only because Russia wants to give entire Syria to the Alawite minority.

    It is Turkey that will have to deal with that not Russia.

    It is Russia that acts like a bunch of cowards, as I already wrote, the Russian government gave free natural gas and free money to a hostile Ukraine, but it is stabbing in the back its own Turkish friends.



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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:14 pm

    You keep going on about Assad but ignore the tyranny that is Erdo, classic.

    To be fair there is a reason Russia provided Ukraine such things, there were political reasons involved.

    The Russians have made their stance clear with the Turks since Day 1, They support the SAA not Erdo's desire for the annexation of land.

    Now I am not saying Assad is a great stand up guy but you are biased over the issue. If Turkey was so worried about refuge's maybe they shouldn't have helped start a civil war. People like you amaze me in how blind you are.

    Truth be told, Erdo could send every single person back across the border, load them onto trucks and get them moving and make those people Assad's problem instead.

    He is using them are bargaining chips against Europe and moronic excuses to justify their land grabbing which you bought hook line and sinker.

    Btw I deal with the Russian military from time to time, One thing I will say is they aren't cowards in fact. I rather respect their strong spirit, if you want to see cowards in Syria look at your Rebel friends.


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    Post  Isos on Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:18 pm

    What disaster ? Turkey welcomed millions of syrian refugees when russians were not there and used them for blackmailing EU.

    Putin maniacle help ? He send troops when the "opposition" was about to attack Tartus. Like 2 or 3 years after the start of the syrian war.

    Russians are making Ukraine pay its gas right now and the its Ukrainian that are eating US shit. The only help they got from the US is some weapons once in a while to continue killing themselves.
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    Post  George1 on Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:30 pm

    Isos wrote:What disaster ? Turkey welcomed millions of syrian refugees when russians were not there and used them for blackmailing EU.

    Putin maniacle help ? He send troops when the "opposition" was about to attack Tartus. Like 2 or 3 years after the start of the syrian war.

    Russians are making Ukraine pay its gas right now and the its Ukrainian that are eating US shit. The only help they got from the US is some weapons once in a while to continue killing themselves.

    turkey "transfer" a lot of refugees in Europe through Greece, especially through Aegean islands. Turkish slave traders have set a price at around 1000 euros per person you should know..
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    Post  Vann7 on Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:32 pm



    Y.N.M.S
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    Yuri Shvitkin, the Russian State Duma Committee for
    Defense Affairs, say Turkey will pay a heavy price if it
    launches a large-scale military operation in the Syrian
    province of Idlib.

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    RuAF party wide Alepo and Idleb tonight.

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    Ankara confirms that it is "not seeking" any confrontation with
    Moscow regarding Syria

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    Second Turkish soldier killed by Ruaf today in Idleb is
    Second Lieutenant Ali Emre Firinciogullari from Hatay province.

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    Turkey soldier killed today in Syria- Mustafa Erturk. Because of the arrogance of their authorities.

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    Syrian tv...250 rats killed aroud Neirab today.
    Anna news...Over 200. Soon exklusiv video.


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    Turkey soldier killed today in Syria- Mustafa Erturk. Because of the arrogance of their authorities.

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    Basically erdogan "brilliant" strategy is to use turkey outpost.. encircled by SAA ,
    as a base to launch attacks on Syrian positions.. Neutral   So the terrorist that attacked Neirab ,had to come
    with one military outpost of turkey ,or from a near village ,and turkey special forces from the outpost lead the
    attack on a syrian army position , but without having any defense  from russia or syrian airforce..
    so it was dumb as hell from the start.. the entire operation.. those tanks and armored vehicles were sitting
    ducks to the SAA and russian airforce.  not mentioning the ammount of artillery that syria have in the zone ,that can easily strike them...and not mentioning the kornets that will overwhelm them..  perhaps erdogan sacrifice
    a few soldiers in order to see what policies Russia will have..

    now those claiming that Russia airforce will not bomb the turkey forces in turkey armor... Wink
    i tell to them.. i told you so.. again wrong.. Neither Russia ,neither syria will stand iddle ,allowing erdogan
    to hold idlib forever as a safe zone for hts/alqaeda.. and just allow them to continue shelling forever their
    cities from idlib.. Russia airforce however did not bombed the turkey outpost.. in good faith.. but all this can
    change if turkey don't stop attacking syrian army ,that have the right to defend its nation territorial integrity and sovereignty and fight the terrorist attacking them..

    is common sense...  like i said..  if your nation existence is at risk.. you will fight any invading
    force ,regardless if they have a more powerful military or not.. allow Erdogan to turn idlib into a paradise for
    alqaeda is not an option.. it will only serve as base of expanding operations ,for erdogan to capture more and more cities.. until there is nothing left..  to take..  Syrian government risk , their country to become another palestine..(where israel year by year.. expanded their stealing of lands.). if they allow erdogan to hold positions for his backed radical sunni sectarians forever in idlib..

    if erdogan wants to "Defend muslims" ,why he don't fight israel ? that attack palestinians ? why he don't fight saudi arabia atacking yemen? why he did not fight americans ,when bombed iraq? or when bombed afganistan?
    he is simply a liar.. playing the "protecting muslim" from evil assad card.. he give artillery to terrorist ,that later
    are used to attack sunni muslim in aleppo city and support banned terror organizations as isis and alnusra/hts are.

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:33 pm

    Russia bombed rebels out of Nayrab again after they took it. Dozens of bodies all over the place. Yuck. 1 Turkish army tank blew up by Su-24. Two tank crew killed immediately. 5 wounded. Some of them probably died of wounds.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/f6zicj/the_two_turkish_soldiers_killed_today_in_idlib/
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    Terrorist coordination mourns 94 deaths of militants

    BREAKING:

    Turkey are now deploying their S400 In Idlib province to counter the RuAF and SyAAF!!!!!
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    lol1  lol1

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    RuAF and SyAAF now striking Kafranbel and Al-Barah



    an now  the big news..
    something that will hurt more erdogan ,than any Russian airforce strikes in idlib..



    Turkish lira weakens again as Ankara nears conflict in Syria

    Turkey’s lira weakened again on Thursday, remaining close to its lowest point in regular trading, as investors fretted over rising tensions in Syria’s Idlib region where Ankara is threatening war.

    The currency – has fallen in seven of the last ten trading days.

    https://www.fxstreet.com/analysis/usd-try-outlook-lira-falls-further-after-cbrt-cut-rates-by-05-202002191507


    So Erdogan illegal adventures in syria , not only is a serious risk of losing them all , but also risk his nation
    economy ,to go the way of venezuela. but without russia and china economic support.. so even worse.. and the popularity of him ,will sink ,more that the titanic.. when the entire country face a major collapse as soviet union..
    and face civil unrest in cities for lack of food and jobs.. so turkey illegal war in syria ,could cost Erdogan the partition of his nation..   he had to explain to his nuts fanatic followers why he is destroying the nation economy for his stupid illegal war in syria..

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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:43 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Russia moved more SU-24s into Syria this suggests they intend to plan to conduct more airstrikes rapidly.

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    Russian Air Force Tu-154M [RA-85042] escorting Su-24 bombers from Astrakhan to Hmeymim on the shortcut via northern Iraq today


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    Somebody took a photo apparently...

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    Russia's Center for the Reconciliation of Opposing Sides said that Russia Su-24M attack aircraft destroyed a tank, 6 IFVs, and five techincals with large-caliber guns in Kminas-Nairab after a request from Syrian forces to prevent a rebel breakthrough. 7/




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    A video also emerged that reportedly showed a MANPADS fired at one of the Russian Su-24M attack aircraft, though it missed. Vedomosti reports that Turkish-supplied Stinger MANPADS were used to down the 2 Syrian Mi-8/17 helos shot down this month. 10/

    lol1 it doesn't work.

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    Post  Isos on Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:16 am

    lol1 US to Turkey : "Fuck off"


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    Russian Air Force drone filming Turkish T-155 Firtina firing at Syrian Government Forces in support of rebel offensive earlier today

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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:44 am



    They don't provide patriots air defenses....to turkey , one because they don't trust in him , but more than anything because those patriots air defenses will be vulnerable to russian airforce , and if turkey use those air defenses..
    to target russian planes.. then the patriots will be destroyed ,and this will bring bad public image to the defenses
    and damage its sales..world wide, this is same reasons .. americans don't provide turkey with m1a2 tanks
    or f-22 and perhaps f-35 too... it will be a bad PR disaster if they defeated..
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    Post  zorobabel on Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:33 am

    I'm pro-Putin life. They bombed pro-jihadist Turkish rats in their tanks. I seriously thought the Turkish invasion of Syria would go unchecked.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:15 am


    USA will probably give Turkey Patriots with caveat that it can only be used to defend Turkish territory (after charging them sweet price for it of course)

    Or even give them on loan and operated by US personnel, that would be even more hilarious

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:21 am

    Isos wrote:lol1 US to Turkey : "Fuck off"


    Sky News
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    .@OIRSpox Colonel Myles Caggins says the #Idlib province is a "magnet" for terrorist groups who are a "nuisance, a menace and a threat" to the hundreds of thousands of civilians in Syria, who are just "trying to make it through the winter."






    @aldin_ww
    Russian Air Force drone filming Turkish T-155 Firtina firing at Syrian Government Forces in support of rebel offensive earlier today

    https://mobile.twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1230499259767717889




    So much so for the Western "freedom" and "democracy."

    Milosevic's Yugoslavia was a super democracy in comparison to the Alawite regime in Syria, but guess who got bombed and overthrown by NATO and its proxies.

    Turkey should not count on these shits.


    If Russia does something stupid to Turkey I do not think anybody will ever take seriously an alliance with Russia.

    Turkey invested so much in its friendship with Russia, but an anti-Russian Ukraine gets free natural gas and free money from Russia.

    Where is the logic here?


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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:44 am

    Turkish soldiers and Qaeda soldiers killed when their M60 MBT and ACV-15 APC were blown up by Russian planes.

    https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/1230496536884400128?s=09

    https://twitter.com/hocmountain/status/1230595214810767387

    https://twitter.com/c4burator/status/1230618798627135494
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:49 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Isos wrote:lol1 US to Turkey : "Fuck off"


    Sky News
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    .@OIRSpox Colonel Myles Caggins says the #Idlib province is a "magnet" for terrorist groups who are a "nuisance, a menace and a threat" to the hundreds of thousands of civilians in Syria, who are just "trying to make it through the winter."






    @aldin_ww
    Russian Air Force drone filming Turkish T-155 Firtina firing at Syrian Government Forces in support of rebel offensive earlier today

    https://mobile.twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1230499259767717889






    So much so for the Western "freedom" and "democracy."

    Milosevic's Yugoslavia was a super democracy in comparison to the Alawite regime in Syria, but guess who got bombed and overthrown by NATO and its proxies.

    Turkey should not count on these shits.


    If Russia does something stupid to Turkey I do not think anybody will ever take seriously an alliance with Russia.

    Turkey invested so much in its friendship with Russia, but an anti-Russian Ukraine gets free natural gas and free money from Russia.

    Where is the logic here?



    And NATO still don't dare invade Serbia. What's your point?
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    Post  crod on Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:07 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    USA will probably give Turkey Patriots with caveat that it can only be used to defend Turkish territory (after charging them sweet price for it of course)

    Or even give them on loan and operated by US personnel, that would be even more hilarious


    Business is business after-all - it'll be very funny though as they sit idle by as Russian jets pound away.....
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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:12 am

    there are conflicting more or less reports..

    because the Neirab battles after the terrorist temporarily occupy it and hours later kicked ...
    it was reported that they returned again and major fights continue..  Russian airforce will have
    to be very careful with the timing of their attacks... because Turkey could send a few terrorist
    to start the fight and wait until russian airforce drops all their missiles and return to base ,to do
    another second attack ,when russian airforce is refilling missiles.. also they need coordinate in  war
    that there is always at least one or two plane in the zone bombing terrorist.. and coordinate with syrian
    airforce..  last but not least electronic warfare to jam their radios will be important.. so they can't organize
    any attack.. to create confusion in their assaults..

    eventually is unlikely the over reactive emotional big ego Erdogan will stop their hostilities..
    against syrian army..  they are even firing with manpads at russian planes.. so it will be a matter of days
    that turkey outpost will be bombed if continue attacks on SAA or russian airforce.  the conflict doesn't look will end any time soon.. there is not even plans for negotiations again.. only force.. against erdogan army ,and total defeat of their military with all turkey outpost destroyed will make them abandon idlib..and syria.. this is if he continue raising the stakes..and the hostilities against SAA then is what will be happening..

    @Odin of Ossetia

    Erdogan only used Putin , he tricked Putin ,with promises , in sochi agreements.. that he was going to respect
    the territorial integrity of Syria.. and now he is saying that Turkey is not bound by any international laws.. lol1
    It was agreed by Erdogan to demilitarize idlib , to disarm HTS and any other terror group and reopen the
    m5 and m4 for traffic... but it was all lies.. he never opened the roads.. a major break of the agreements..
    neither he created a buffer zone 15km inside idlib to do patrols with Russia.. so Erdoga was fooling Russia,
    because he taught Putin will back down on their support to Syria ,once they deploy an army there.. so erdogan miscalculated big time.. Russia will not abandon syria , not even if the entire turkey army invade. and so will use force to push erdogan back to his country..No matter what you think about Assad.. Syria is much more than Assad , is a real nation ,a real country and turkey have no rights to invade a foreign nation. in an unprovoked agression ,and start stealing ,anexxing territory ... by bombs.  and before you make comparisons.. Russia did not bombed anyone in crimea.. to take it.. it was russian people who lived there the majority and it was passed to ukraine ,when ukraine was part of russia.. so is totally different to what erdogan is doing.. erdogan is aiding
    terrorist groups.. to kill syrians , push the military back and later send their army to steal the cities.. erdogan himself.. is saying that he will not allow syrians to take back idlib.. so what is this? if not seeking to steal land
    that belongs to syria ? he also wanted to take the oil fields in kurdistan and in iraq too..

    So this have nothing to do ,with who is president of Syria.. or iraq/.
    if someone else is president.. they will still fight at any foreign nation invasion.. is their land.. not erdogan land..
    and so they have the right to liberate its territory from turkey and us illegal occupation.. once erdogan is pushed
    away from syria ,they will move to kick americans from there.. you can't give erdogan not even one inch of territory ,because if you allow turkey army to hold for long a city or a region ,they will steal it.. as they did to cyprus.. and israel did to palestinians.. so this is why Syrian government unamously agreed to recover back
    all their land ..that turkey illegally occupy.

    it will not be surprising if US airforces or other nato powers or israel start to aid Erdogan and his alqaeda terror groups against syria..



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    Post  zorobabel on Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:21 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    eventually is unlikely the over reactive emotional big ego Erdogan will stop their hostilities..
    against syrian army..  they are even firing with manpads at russian planes.. so it will be a matter of days
    that turkey outpost will be bombed if continue attacks on SAA or russian airforce.  the conflict doesn't look will end any time soon.. there is not even plans for negotiations again.. only force.. against erdogan army ,and total defeat of their military with all turkey outpost destroyed will make them abandon idlib..and syria.. this is if he continue raising the stakes..and the hostilities against SAA then is what will be happening..
    Yep
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:23 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:...If Russia does something stupid to Turkey I do not think anybody will ever take seriously an alliance with Russia.

    Turks signed a deal and then tried to weasel out of it in clumsiest lamest way possible, that ain't exactly behavior of someone you would be seriously​ making alliance with

    Also, there's no way Turkey will be going into alliance with anyone other than USA, current situation is just result of consequences of years of Turkish clumsy policy catching up with them and Russians making some profit in the process







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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:06 am



    there was many real turkey soldiers participating in the offensive..
    in al-Nairab. if the video alone ,and another i saw.. appear to be 30 to 50 of them..
    so either 2 killed and all other were lucky.. or the numbers of turkey army casualties
    were very high and hidden by Russia .. . according to some media ..anna news
    claim 250 military groups were killed.. . and sana news .. the official media of syria
    says about 200 killed.. probably most of them htc militants.. but from 30 to 50 turkey soldiers
    had to be there helping.. if the videos are any indication..

    https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/1230443986298580992

    https://twitter.com/Kyruer/status/1230489594061377536

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    Post  ahmedfire on Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:16 am


    https://www.facebook.com/ObservatoryLY/videos/1811634865637426/

    This video raised yesterday ,i'm not sure it's new or old one but it's showing the airstrikes on the turkish forces or their terrorists .
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    Post  JohninMK on Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:52 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Isos wrote:Russians should start flying some tupolev above the black sea as a reminder ...

    They already did yesterday



    Any source ?
    Two Tu-22M and fighter escort flew for 9 hours and 4500 miles from their base and around the Black Sea was the report. See if I can find it.

    Found it. Nearly remembered it right. Being English my brain operates in miles not kilometers  Laughing  Cool

    MOSCOW, February 19. /TASS/. Two Russian Tupolev Tu-22M3 strategic bombers have performed a scheduled flight over the neutral waters of the Black Sea, Russia’s Defense Ministry said in a statement on Wednesday.

    "During the flight, the crews covered a distance of about 4,500 km and stayed in the air for more than five hours," the statement runs.

    Fighter jets of Russia’s Southern Military District escorted the bombers during the flight. Russian long-range aviation pilots regularly perform flights over the neutral waters of the Arctic, the Northern Atlantic, the Black and Baltic Seas and the Pacific Ocean, the ministry stated.

    "The aircraft of Russia’s Aerospace Force perform all their flights in strict compliance with the International Rules of Using the Airspace," the Defense Ministry of Russia stressed.


    https://tass.com/defense/1121939


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