New START Treaty

All Russia has to do now is make majority of their warheads nuclear. Cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, etc. And reserve those for when needed. Of course build also more conventional for those regional conflicts.

Today's response of President Putin to extend The new start Treaty without taking into account the freezing of the nuclear Arsenal is doomed to failure. The United States is serious about arms control, which ensures the security of the entire world. We hope that Russia will reconsider its position before a costly arms race begins ( ... ) it would be a victory for both sides, and we believed that the Russians were ready to accept this proposal when I met with my colleague in Geneva. - O'brien said.

A BS excuse if there ever was one. START controls numbers and not quality and never did. Now these yanqui hypocrites demand conditions that were never
part of START in order to extend it.

So Uncle Swine-shit has officially killed the treaty. And he is in for a very rude awakening. Yanquistan has no chance of "bankrupting" Russia with any arms
race. Russia can respond by making more Sarmats, Burevestniks, Poseidons, and assorted other massive bang for the buck weapons systems. It will not
waste resources making 50,000 tanks that are totally obsolete in any nuclear war.

I have said this many times but it bears repeating: the yanquis are afflicted with the terminal delusion that Russia will not fight a nuclear war. This inanity
must be due to the cognitive dissonance of clowns who wrote Russia off in the 1990s and cannot understand or accept its Phoenix-like rise with world
leading leaps in weapons technology. So you hear retarded sour grapes like "Russia stole our hypersonic tech". Much like the non-functional AstraZeneca
SARS-Cov-2 vaccine, Russia is apparently stealing what the precious NATzO west does not have.

miketheterrible wrote:All Russia has to do now is make majority of their warheads nuclear. Cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, etc.  And reserve those for when needed.  Of course build also more conventional for those regional conflicts.

This yanqui move is going to cost it big time. Removing the lid off nuclear weapons both global and regional means that MAD is at 100%. The insanity of the yanqui
self-anointed exceptionalists is something to behold. They have actually tied their own hands with this move.

kvs wrote:This yanqui move is going to cost it big time.   Removing the lid off nuclear weapons both global and regional means that MAD is at 100%.   The insanity of the yanqui
self-anointed exceptionalists is something to behold.   They have actually tied their own hands with this move.

They just wanted excuses to allow the treaty to expire, even the pathetic ones they got after pretending to engage in negotiations for a few months. So mission accomplished for them. In their mind they are just sparing Russians their lives by tolerating any arm control treaty, they are going to have fun when they see China and Russia leave them behind despite all their attempts to "outspend them into oblivion"... what f* retards

I have a question: do you think breeder reactors give Russia an advantage now or do US and the RF have enough weapons-grade plutonium ready for increasing their number of warheads?

LMFS wrote:

kvs wrote:This yanqui move is going to cost it big time.   Removing the lid off nuclear weapons both global and regional means that MAD is at 100%.   The insanity of the yanqui
self-anointed exceptionalists is something to behold.   They have actually tied their own hands with this move.

They just wanted excuses to allow the treaty to expire, even the pathetic ones they got after pretending to engage in negotiations for a few months. So mission accomplished for them. In their mind they are just sparing Russians their lives by tolerating any arm control treaty, they are going to have fun when they see China and Russia leave them behind despite all their attempts to "outspend them into oblivion"... what f* retards

I have a question: do you think breeder reactors give Russia an advantage now or do US and the RF have enough weapons-grade plutonium ready for increasing their number of warheads?

I think they do. The US cannot possibly have the plutonium production reactors it had operating 40 years ago. That is one of the reasons they store
warheads instead of dismantling them. Carter killed any US reprocessing capacity and any fast neutron breeder reactor program the US had. And
as we see with Westinghouse, the resulting loss of human capital is a real show stopper.

Russia is number one on the planet with nuclear reprocessing. It can probably come up with new types of fission cores for hydrogen bombs.

For sure Russia can crank up warhead production like there is no tomorrow and it does not have to go "bankrupt" to do. The yanquis will
have to spin up production basically from scratch. So it is Yanquistan that could end up going bankrupt first, before the race even starts.

kvs wrote:I think they do.  The US cannot possibly have the plutonium production reactors it had operating 40 years ago.   That is one of the reasons they store
warheads instead of dismantling them.    Carter killed any US reprocessing capacity and any fast neutron breeder reactor program the US had.   And
as we see with Westinghouse, the resulting loss of human capital is a real show stopper.

Russia is number one on the planet with nuclear reprocessing.   It can probably come up with new types of fission cores for hydrogen bombs.

For sure Russia can crank up warhead production like there is no tomorrow and it does not have to go "bankrupt" to do.   The yanquis will
have to spin up production basically from scratch.   So it is Yanquistan that could end up going bankrupt first, before the race even starts.

What US has not seen or rather didn't want to see is that Russia has been steadily preparing for decades in order to be ready for exactly this moment. They never abandoned their strategic technologies like nuclear research, they patiently took their soviet weapons programs where they were left and took hem to new heights. They didn't rush to use force despite many provocations because that would have spent their resources before they had been properly regenerated. That kind of long-term planning is something the West cannot only not replicate but I think it cannot even understand.

https://www.mid.ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/4395765

LMFS wrote:

kvs wrote:This yanqui move is going to cost it big time.   Removing the lid off nuclear weapons both global and regional means that MAD is at 100%.   The insanity of the yanqui
self-anointed exceptionalists is something to behold.   They have actually tied their own hands with this move.

They just wanted excuses to allow the treaty to expire, even the pathetic ones they got after pretending to engage in negotiations for a few months. So mission accomplished for them. In their mind they are just sparing Russians their lives by tolerating any arm control treaty, they are going to have fun when they see China and Russia leave them behind despite all their attempts to "outspend them into oblivion"... what f* retards

I have a question: do you think breeder reactors give Russia an advantage now or do US and the RF have enough weapons-grade plutonium ready for increasing their number of warheads?

Looks like the Chinese made the first move:

#China's top legislature passed a law on export control, allowing the government to ban exports of strategic materials and advanced technology to specific foreign companies.
https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1318526455643578369

Russia has agreed to freeze its arsenal even though it did not allow it a few days ago. With such an advantage over the US in strategic weapons, they will make concessions.

EU calls on Russia and USA to prolong New START before February 2021

Moscow has repeatedly called on Washington not to delay prolongation of the treaty it describes as a golden standard in the area of disarmament

BRUSSELS, October 20. /TASS/. The EU is calling on Russia and the USA to prolong the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START) before February 2021, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell stated on Tuesday during a plenary session of the European Parliament in Brussels.

"We strongly call for the extension by the US and Russia of the New START Treaty before February 2021, and we will encourage negotiations for a broader future agreement," he said.

The New START Treaty will expire at the beginning of 2021 unless Moscow and Washington agree to renew it. The Treaty between the United States of America and the Russian Federation on Measures for the Further Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms (the New START Treaty) entered into force on February 5, 2011. The document stipulates that seven years after its entry into effect each party should have no more than a total of 700 deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM) and strategic bombers, as well as no more than 1,550 warheads on deployed ICBMs, deployed SLBMs and strategic bombers, and a total of 800 deployed and non-deployed ICBM launchers, SLBM launchers and strategic bombers.

The New START Treaty will remain in force for 10 years, until February 5, 2021, unless it is replaced before that date by a subsequent agreement on the reduction and limitation of strategic offensive arms. It can also be extended for no longer than 5 years (that is, until 2026) by the parties’ mutual consent.

Moscow has repeatedly called on Washington not to delay prolongation of the treaty it describes as a golden standard in the area of disarmament. In an interview with the Financial Times in June 2019, Russian President Vladimir Putin warned that once the New START Treaty ceased to exist, "then there would be no instrument in the world to curtail the arms race.".

https://tass.com/defense/1214405

Why are the EU-tards calling on Russia to "act". It has been trying to extend the treaty for several years and has been rebuffed
by Uncle Swine-shit. So they should be calling on the US to fulfill its international obligations and stop acting like a brain damaged
prat.

https://www.kommersant.ru/amp/4539781?__twitter_impression=true

BTW, the US killed the INF treaty regardless whether Russia violated it or not. The treaty had provisions for violations and gave six
months for both parties to deal with them. Uncle Swine-shit simply made an accusation and killed the treaty. If he was so committed
to it, then he would have engaged the violation provisions.

Also, the US was in clear violation of the INF with its dual use ABM launcher deployments to eastern Europe. The INF explicitly forbids
such launchers.

It's funny how this brain damaged prat of a country chose some missile which is clearly limited in range to base its accusation on.
The Iskander is a much more likely candidate for range extension as we see with Kinzhal.

The UK is wanking itself silly boasting that it can take out Russia with its SLBMs.

Any claim that the START treaty is legitimate is BS. It gives Washington the advantage because its
NATzO minions France and UK are not covered even though they form a military alliance fielding
unified strategic nuclear weapons against Russia.

Washington's demand that Russia force China to join the treaty is a retarded joke. How about Washington
snap its fingers and have its French and British doggies submit to START. Russia should be balancing
its arsenal against the whole of NATzO and not just the US. And Russia has no military alliance like
NATzO with China.

UK doesn't have many nukes.

Doesn't take many either to destroy UK.

So their boasting is asinine.

But that is not the point I am highlighting. Its 64 trident missiles are still an issue for Russian safety. The leaders of the USSR
were traitors going back to 1917. I can only think of Stalin who was there at the critical moment of WWII without stabbing
the country in the back. After 1953 it was stream of losers that culminated in the comprador Gorbachev and his successor
Yeltsin. SALT, START, etc. are all BS treaties because they do not include all of NATzO as if British and French strategic
nuclear weapons somehow don't matter.

With 64 Trident missiles it is possible to destroy Russia if every major city is targeted. I know that it is not that simple, but
complexity is not an excuse.

Hence why Russia needs to build more nukes.

This is bad news for Russia. START is in the interest of the West.

George1 wrote:Future Biden administration announced interest in extending START III

Russia should make the extension conditional on inclusion of the UK and France as part of the US strategic nuclear weapons pool.

Let them eat some Pompeo cake and see how they like it.

Russia will agree to extend START without UK and France. They will still be stuck in treaties that are in the interest of the West.

kvs wrote:...Russia should make the extension conditional on inclusion of the UK and France as part of the US strategic nuclear weapons pool.

Let them eat some Pompeo cake and see how they like it.

Agreed

I think this might be included in new requirements

START is stupid treaty anyway and this is a good opportunity to get UK and France into this or ditch it permanently