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    Post  Mindstorm on Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:39 pm

    crod wrote:sorry but you appear to be on a completely different tangent...I’m not concerned one iota what Iran says it’s doing over what israel says Iran is doing - zero.
    I was merely pointing out that an attack occurred, 2 buildings targeted, what was said to be a drone manufacturing facility and that there were casualties. Hez confirmed their casualties while Iran refuted the claim that one of their own was killed, that’s all. Some before and after pics were supplied but given I’m not on the ground, I’ve zero knowledge on what was hit and what wasn’t hit. End of.


    Do you mean from ISI ?
    The same medieval primitive "private" isreali-owned.......... supposed........satellite intelligence agency that render more funny the monotonous days of Federation MoD employers with theirs laughably involute doctored PR coverages of supposed Israeli (and others) attacks abroad.

    Anyone can well remember the self-embarrassing "yellow circles" numbering of the "supposed" targets hit in the Al Shayrat air base by part of US; or the phantoms 6 helicopters and 5 aircraft of Federation Air Forces destroyed by rebels at Khmeimim airfield Razz Razz Razz

    Anyhow this is theirs coverage.

    https://twitter.com/ImageSatIntl/status/1165612438814887943

    The basis is to mix the real with artificial, in a way that the outcome of those stand-off attacks ,involving often 8-10 striking IAF aircraft plus all the corollary complement, will not appear too much misere for its effects on the ground.

    On a more serious account anyone can assert that Israel can say thanks to theirs very efficient and extensive HUMINT network on Syrian ground (obviously greatly aided in theirs work by the prolonged civil war situation there) if it can get useful informations for its Air Force, the remaining part of INF collecting assets are not even on par with second plane European nations.

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:51 pm

    new ANNA news vidoe

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:52 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    ultimatewarrior wrote:This is what Russia needs to do more. CAS. Not flying 50 km behind the front dropping useless bombs on useless targets.

    OK, so behind the front line ammo/food/fuel depots etc and command centers are useless targets?

    Don't need to bother with them. Just shoot up the few hundred pickup trucks rebels have and they won't be able to do any offensive operation. Bomb their forts with CAS to take settlements. Russia air force still have a long way to go to learn CAS. Bombing empty warehouses is useless. Only taking lebensraum can win war.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:34 pm

    GarryB wrote:Also I don't remember anyone inviting Turkey into Syria... they just went in... and have a long history of going in after Kurds anyway.

    Nope. SAA shot down Turkish F-4 and slaughtered 2 pilots. Turkey didn't dare enter Syria until last year when Russia invited them in under Astana agreement. Now it's time to kick out the stupid Ottomans.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:13 am

    Regarding the Israeli raids (syria followed by Lebanon) looks like they weren't that successful after all..

    Summarize
    1- Jets from over Golan heights launched multiple missiles
    2- Syrian AD were on high alert since yesterday, entirely of the missiles were shoot down
    3- Israelis were preparing for a 2nd wave.
    4- 2 Su-35s took off from Ru base in Syria and headed towards the sea

    https://twitter.com/Syrian_MC/status/1165377592792424448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1165377592792424448&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Favia.pro%2Fnews%2Frossiyskie-su-35-perehvatili-izrailskie-istrebiteli

    2 x Su-35's were sent to intercept the second Israeli wave, while 2 drones (out of 3) were jammed (from Tartus) and crashed in Beirut while the third one did release it's payload of grenades

    http://avia.pro/news/rossiyskie-su-35-perehvatili-izrailskie-istrebiteli



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    Post  crod on Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:29 am

    Hell bent on causing mayhem, only to cry foul when a response comes citing WWII etc etc.
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    Post  crod on Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:30 am

    Cyberspec wrote:

    2 x Su-35's were sent to intercept the second Israeli wave, while 2 drones (out of 3) were jammed (from Tartus) and crashed in Beirut while the third one did release it's payload of grenades


    i thought they were clearing all these with Russia first?
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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:11 am

    crod wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:

    2 x Su-35's were sent to intercept the second Israeli wave, while 2 drones (out of 3) were jammed (from Tartus) and crashed in Beirut while the third one did release it's payload of grenades


    i thought they were clearing all these with Russia first?

    They reserve the right to act unilaterally
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:50 pm

    OK, so behind the front line ammo/food/fuel depots etc and command centers are useless targets?

    The Russians will be electronically monitoring radio and telephone traffic as well as vehicle traffic to see where comms centres and HQs as well as storage bases and weapons factories are.

    It makes rather more sense to kill the bosses and their skilled workers making weapons as to kill the rats at the bottom who risk their lives firing at the Russians and Syrians... there are rather more rats than bosses and important people... they will run out of bosses and skilled workers much faster than they will run out of rats... and it is the bosses and the skilled workers that give the rats their teeth and claws.

    Hitting depots and comms centres is the most efficient way of dealing with the problem, which is not to say you should ignore the Toyotas with rocket launchers and cannons and HMGs on the back... take them out too when you can... but don't expect to wipe out the enemy completely... once you get too good at taking them out they will just change tactics, or their backers will change the rules.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:03 am

    What is the ATGM at the 0:32 mark?

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:57 pm

    Definitely not Metis... hard to tell from the angle, but I would guess either Konkurs or Kornet but without thermal sights.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:49 pm

    Forpost drone guides strike on people who hate Russia's vehicle. Major overkill. If Russia has attack drones like Turkey, Iran, China, EU, Israel, US have, they can just use a 152 mm guided munition to whack it instead of using a 2000 lb bomb.



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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:50 pm

    GarryB wrote:Definitely not Metis... hard to tell from the angle, but I would guess either Konkurs or Kornet but without thermal sights.

    I think it's Kornet because the missile holder is at the top above the EO.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:50 am

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:45 am

    I think it's Kornet because the missile holder is at the top above the EO.

    But with no launch tube he is just using it to observe which is a bit odd...
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:32 am

    GarryB wrote:
    I think it's Kornet because the missile holder is at the top above the EO.

    But with no launch tube he is just using it to observe which is a bit odd...

    I've seen Russian SOF use Kornet launcher as telescope in Homs desert.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:34 am

    Seriously when is Orion E operational? Iran been using attack drones since early 2016. Russia is really late to the game when it comes to attack drones. Forpost still being Russia's most capable drone is really embarassing.





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    Post  JohninMK on Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:55 pm


    The Russian Ministry of Defense and Reconciliation Center has announced that a new ceasefire for northwest Syria will be put into effect on Saturday, one which the Syrian Army itself will unilaterally implement.

    The nature of the ceasefire has been clarified: all military operations by the Syrian Army in the region will be halted for an indefinite period of time and insurgent attacks after its implementation will be responded to by means of armed force.

    Amid announcing Syrian Army intentions, the Russian MoD has called on militants in northwest Syria to abide by the ceasefire.

    The announcement comes after the Syrian Army has seized numerous long-standing militant strongholds across the region during the preceding months including Kafr Naboudah, Qalaat al-Mudiq, Khan Sheykhun, Kafr Zita, Al-Latamenah and Murak.

    The official call to end Syrian military operations in northwest Syria has come rather suddenly given that the Syrian Army (the one unilaterally implementing it) has right up until now maintained an offensive posture, making key gains of the ground until just a few hours ago.

    In any case, as of Saturday, the Syrian Army will halt all of its operations across the northwest Syria region.

    Whether or not militant groups (in particular, the hard-line jihadist ones such as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, Turkistan Islamic Party and Hurras al-Din) also abide by the ceasefire is yet to be seen, with certain analysts having their doubts that such factions will.

    The Syrian Army will likely use the break in hostilities to reinforce its new positions along the  front-line it has carved out over the last few months.


    https://en.muraselon.com/2019/08/breaking-ceasefire-announced-in-northwest-syria-details/




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    With this truce, the army offers a chance for terrorists to withdraw north and west of the M4 and M5. Some days .... if that does not happen, further action will be taken to release Idlib.
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    Post  kvs on Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:53 pm

    Given the hysterics of NATO and Turkey over losses by their jihadi proxies, this ratchet approach is correct. The jihadis can no longer
    exploit such ceasefires to recover anything. So the SAA will just keep on pushing them to the Turkish border in a step-wise manner.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:37 pm

    Hopefully Russian drones and air / artillery strikes will continue taking out small mobile targets like pickups during unilateral ceasefire to prevent a major counter attack and also destroy their ability to launch offensive operations. Remember. No more pickups means no more offensive operations.

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:40 pm

    In the mean time, we eagerly await Orion E to be deployed to Syria. Orion E is on par with Shahed 129. Orion E will quickly decimate HTS ground forces within weeks. Locate and kill within seconds. Do not need to call in air force anymore. Iran is Islamo fascist country and refuses to fight HTS but Russia will fight HTS. That's why it's best to wait for Orion E before resuming military op. That way HTS will be destroyed by Orion E within weeks without having to martyr any SAA men unnecessarily.





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    Post  ATLASCUB on Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:41 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:Prototypical "Kurd good" "Erdogan, Turks bad" bot spreading the same drivel as those before it. Tiresome...

    Erdogan will soon travel to Russia to beg Putin for more time. His Muslim Brotherhood brothers and sisters in Syria are facing extermination. That's Al-Qaeda after all, the military branch of the Brotherhood - of which Erdogan belongs.

    The ploy is exhausted. But Putin puts up with it for that strategic patience... it's Syria that bleeds after all.

    Russia wants a Turkish-U.S clash. With the current safe-zone deal it's not gonna get it any time soon. Erdogan is such a fvcking pvssy he's allowing the Kurds to live for another day and is not seizing on the moment - nationalist Turks must be raging (the ones not duped by state propaganda of course). Ohh well.

    Erdogan made his choice as to what is worse = either 1: complete economic raiding and political destabilization from the U.S/EU or 2: a humanitarian crisis as a result of an Idlib exodus caused by a Russian/SAA campaign to retake all of the province. Not only is the "humanitarian exodus" an issue, his stocks of fresh jihadi cannon fodder to use against the Kurds will severely diminish - thus putting a heavier toll on actual Turks from the Turkish armed forces = more loses = more internal political pressure on him.

    He's already decided he wants no piece of the U.S/Trump. Having sanctions and the lira go belly up will severely damage Turkey. So he'll try his luck with the weaker power - Russia.

    Wants neither 1 or 2 but thinks he can sweet talk Putin into settling for nothing in Idlib (another postponement and ceasefire - the usual B.S) while the Americans celebrate their deal and keep their position on the table intact.

    We'll see what Putin's gang decides. Don't have high hopes for the man lately although he's open to surprises once in a full moon.

    Erdogan the fool, Erdogan the brave... Erdogan the coward. All apply. Textbook example of why you never ever set your neighborhood on fire. But lil cult fools like that muslim brotherhood rat always fall into traps. Great Sultan for sure.. lol1 lol1

    Another ceasefire. Won't hold but more delays as usual.

    Putin better wrap those Su-35 sales by MAKS19 end.... lol1
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:49 pm

    Assadists Uragan artillery in action in Idlib. These should be able to out range HTS / NLF Grad artillery.

    https://twitter.com/nm79797979/status/1167520342081966081

    https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1167522371584106497
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:31 pm

    In the mean time, we eagerly await Orion E to be deployed to Syria. Orion E is on par with Shahed 129. Orion E will quickly decimate HTS ground forces within weeks. Locate and kill within seconds. Do not need to call in air force anymore. Iran is Islamo fascist country and refuses to fight HTS but Russia will fight HTS. That's why it's best to wait for Orion E before resuming military op. That way HTS will be destroyed by Orion E within weeks without having to martyr any SAA men unnecessarily.

    You have to remember that the enemy are assholes but not idiots... even with drones able to hit pickups after a few dozen are hit they will adapt their tactics and do something new... Darwin called it natural selection...
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:15 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    In the mean time, we eagerly await Orion E to be deployed to Syria. Orion E is on par with Shahed 129. Orion E will quickly decimate HTS ground forces within weeks. Locate and kill within seconds. Do not need to call in air force anymore. Iran is Islamo fascist country and refuses to fight HTS but Russia will fight HTS. That's why it's best to wait for Orion E before resuming military op. That way HTS will be destroyed by Orion E within weeks without having to martyr any SAA men unnecessarily.

    You have to remember that the enemy are assholes but not idiots... even with drones able to hit pickups after a few dozen are hit they will adapt their tactics and do something new... Darwin called it natural selection...

    Nope. There is no escape from attack drones. The Afrin campaign was so successful mainly because of Bayraktar attack drones. If you think attack drones are not useful then you must think they live underground. There is nothing they can cloak. There is nothing they can do unless they grow wings and fly. There is nothing they can do to hide from thermal. Unless they live underground. Natural selection has limits.


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