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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat May 12, 2018 5:23 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:......
    Monolithic SHLVs will be built with a MUCH lower cadence, making their build process more expensive.

    And much easier (basically 100% certain) to cancel the second bean counters fail to do the numbers right (as in less than a year from project start)

    Same as every other SHLV system proposed or used

    Medium class modular military requested rocket OTOH, even they are not dumb enough to even think about touching that one
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    Post  Hole on Sat May 12, 2018 11:28 am

    Parts of Energia were made in south-western rus... eh, Ukraine.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun May 13, 2018 9:25 am

    Energyia was made 30+ years ago in factories with 1970s technology... I would suggest with modern materials and technical know how they could make it better and lighter and cheaper (none of which was possible or needed at the time).


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    Post  Hole on Sun May 13, 2018 11:21 am

    The Energia train has left the station a long time ago.

    We can blame it on the europeans. In 1995/96 Jelzin offered the Energia/Buran program, the Mir space station and the GLONASS System to them. Joint venture. They declined, because of the "transatlantic friendship."
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Sun May 13, 2018 2:00 pm

    kvs wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    biguzza wrote: BTW Vann, if Russia did have a 100T class launcher currently available, what would they use it for?

    Forget about the soyuz 5 Russia needs the energiya ASAP to replace the proton M. Its fucking ridiculous how an already built and tested design isnt flying again.

    It's ridiculous how the USSR fell apart and left the worst depression in history in its wake.    Russia lost the manufacturing ability to
    build the Energiya.   All the original specialists are retired or passed on and the manufacturing facilities have basically disappeared.
    It would have to start from scratch and I quite sure that not all of the necessary documents and show-stopping details are available.


    The biggest obstacle to make more Energia is the lack of reason to do so.

    They need at least four launch per year as bare minimum, but possible way more to justify the rebuild of the manufacturing process.


    The Space Shuttle has been designed for 1-4 launch per month, and the four launch per year schedule made it very expensive.


    Means to resurrect it (or make similar) Russia needs 1200 ton/year LEO project.

    Like space colonies, mining or whatever : D
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    Post  Hole on Sun May 13, 2018 5:03 pm

    Space colonies. Man, the west would freak out. Twisted Evil "Russian aggression!" lol!
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    Post  GarryB on Mon May 14, 2018 2:15 am

    If they are going to develop a new space shuttle system then Energyia or something very much like it is the best solution to that problem.

    They are developing nuclear powered rockets to operate in space, which suggests more activity in space rather than less.

    Rubbish collection/removal is one useful purpose, but this space tug will also be used to help manned vehicles get places faster and easier, and of course the removal from orbit of non functioning satellites would free up orbital positions for new satellites...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu May 24, 2018 10:35 pm


    RIP Russian space program angel

    Putin appointed Rogozin as the head of Roscosmos

    http://tass.ru/pmef-2018/articles/5229960
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu May 24, 2018 11:23 pm

    One good thing Rogozin did was controlling the space industry in the past. He was very specific and found ways to deal with plenty of the issues.

    Word on the street is that a new consortum will be created and take over roscosmos to help streamline development, reduce costs of programs and drastically increase efficiency. This is a consortum of companies from Rosatom, Rostec, etc etc.
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    Post  kvs on Fri May 25, 2018 12:00 am

    What's this BS "consensus" on Rogozin. Bunch of wankers yapping in chorus trying to smear him. Like they are trying to smear Putin.
    Rogozin cleaned up the mess during the construction of the Vostochny Cosmodrome. I have seen nothing to indicate that he is
    incompetent or some buffoon. All the people who don't like what he says can go and get stuffed.

    I bet if that NATO spy Serdyukov was appointed we would not have a single post pronouncing the end of Russia's space program.

    With "friends" like these, who needs enemies?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 25, 2018 2:08 am

    kvs wrote:What's this BS "consensus" on Rogozin. Bunch of wankers yapping in chorus trying to smear him....

    Trampoline Man doen not need any smearing, he does it pretty well all by himself

    kvs wrote:....Rogozin cleaned up the mess during the construction of the Vostochny Cosmodrome.

    Only after he allowed situation to escalate under his nose until it reached the point when it could no longer be ignored


    kvs wrote:I have seen nothing to indicate that he is
    incompetent or some buffoon.

    Competent people get promoted, not demoted

    Fact that in Russian Federation national space agency is seen as dumping ground for incompetent morons is quite sad and telling
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri May 25, 2018 3:45 am

    It really isn't Papa. Stop propagating garbage. You sound very much like a former member here with the BS about Rogozin. Simply put, the man did save the space industry for the most part, especially after pushing the concept of turning Roscosmos into a state run company.

    Yeah, he made some pretty funny remarks that made him look stupid. But he also isn't being "demoted" because of this nor is Roscosmos some kind of indication of failure. Seeing as how they already have a long term plan for it and have pumped a lot of money into it, really gives us indication you are either being disingenuous or ignorant for sake of it.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 25, 2018 4:12 am

    miketheterrible wrote:It really isn't Papa. Stop propagating garbage. You sound very much like a former member here with the BS about Rogozin. Simply put, the man did save the space industry for the most part, especially after pushing the concept of turning Roscosmos into a state run company.

    Yeah, he made some pretty funny remarks that made him look stupid. But he also isn't being "demoted" because of this nor is Roscosmos some kind of indication of failure. Seeing as how they already have a long term plan for it and have pumped a lot of money into it, really gives us indication you are either being disingenuous or ignorant for sake of it.

    Sure. I disagree with bullshit approach that is in play so I am "propagating garbage"...

    You know what? Once they successfully accomplish something I might start fangirling over them just like all you here but until that happens I will call bullshit bullshit.

    Also, next launch of Angara A5 has been postponed again, this time for 2019 (if anyone still cares about that one)

    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/613575

    Maybe Mister Trampoline Man should deal with that before moving on to actually difficult stuff?

    He could post a witty update on his Instagram account. Or just say that they never wanted to bother with A5 in the first place like he did with his excuse for launch segment?

    I am sure that will fix the problem.

    Bottom line is that Trampoline Man is full of shit, has no brains and has even less dignity. Sad fucking day for Russian space program.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri May 25, 2018 5:02 am

    "Rocket heavy class "Angara-A5" was supposed to go to your second flight this spring. However, due to the unwillingness of the media and the lack of a payload of this magnitude, the start will be delayed, likely in 2019," - said the source.


    This is a pretty good reason - nothing to shoot up into space that requires such a rocket.  Better save it for later then.

    Till then, they have no problem launching Soyuz Rockets.  Most these days are simply satellites anyway with odd mission here or there.  I don't know the fuss tbh.  They are working on the infrastructure and they have plan.  And anyway, still working on the new module for ISS as well.

    Plus they still launch astronauts into space. Something US still contracts Russia to do. So far, most everyone else is launching are just satellites. Russia is doing quite well imo.

    Dunno for all the hate going on.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 25, 2018 5:18 am

    miketheterrible wrote:
    "Rocket heavy class "Angara-A5" was supposed to go to your second flight this spring. However, due to the unwillingness of the media and the lack of a payload of this magnitude, the start will be delayed, likely in 2019," - said the source.


    This is a pretty good reason - nothing to shoot up into space that requires such a rocket.  Better save it for later then.

    Till then, they have no problem launching Soyuz Rockets.  Most these days are simply satellites anyway with odd mission here or there.  I don't know the fuss tbh.  They are working on the infrastructure and they have plan.  And anyway, still working on the new module for ISS as well.

    Plus they still launch astronauts into space. Something US still contracts Russia to do. So far, most everyone else is launching are just satellites. Russia is doing quite well imo.

    Dunno for all the hate going on.

    Here, read this

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t6969p25-commercial-and-private-space-companies-and-programs-news-and-updates#222473

    This is some kindergarten level bullshit

    Trampoline Man should not be anywhere near space program, he has neither qualifications, maturity nor dignity for it
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri May 25, 2018 5:22 am

    He isn't wrong. Technically SpaceX is a continuous lost of profit business because of all the heavy subsidies they get and tech transfer. Elon Musk's company is barely surviving and many of its investors are rather scared in the last year.

    I agree, he is better to keep his mouth shut. But one thing he does for sure, is follow orders and does so without question. Something that they needed in Roscosmos, due to history of corruption and loss because of it in the company.
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    Post  Vann7 on Sat May 26, 2018 1:40 am

    All the skeptics in this forum ,who praise Putin's Decisions in Space , (reducing the budget in half) No
    While increasing the budget in meaningless Sports ,Victory Parades and worshiping the past events , and
    focusing Russia economy towards making Russia an Agriculture Power , instead of a Technology/Space power.
    the next article in SPutnik , illustrate clearly how dangerous ,almost like treason ,Putin's lacks of ambitions in space.

    Americans knows well ,how important is space ,why they are INCREASING the budget of NASA , NOT decreasing
    it.. and people saying why would Russia need a super heavy carrier rocket simply for the Militarization of Space ,
    for Instant deployment in space of powerful energy weapons , quick deployment of already pre assembled Space stations for civilians and military purposes. For mining in the moon and deployment of a moon base.. is cheaper
    to send all equipment need for colonization of moon in just one rocket than dozens. For Creation of a SPACE battle station command center.. just imagine the possibilities of Russia lifting a giant Lazer gun attached to a big nuclear reactor ,to Stop Americans or NATO ICBMS attacks on Russia? Everyone in the west in the US military understand how important is Domination of space.. but people in this forum,including people who believe to be "Experts" not.

    GarryB read the next quote several times until you get it....



    The risk of a single power on Earth seizing control of space was inadvertently described in 1958 by then-US Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B Johnson.

    "Control of space means control of the world, far more certainly, far more totally than any control that has ever or could ever be achieved by weapons, or by troops of occupation. There's something more important than the ultimate weapon. That is the ultimate position — the position of total control over the Earth that lies somewhere out in space. That is the distant future, though not so distant as we may have thought. Whoever gains that position gains control, total control, over Earth, for the purposes of tyranny or for the service of freedom," he said.



    did you got that Garryb?

    if not again..

    "Control of space means control of the world, far more certainly, far more totally than any control that has ever or could ever be achieved by weapons, or by troops of occupation.

    Controlling space is worse than an Army invasion ,you heard that Garry ? An army invasion can be countered.
    with insurgency.. but you can't counter space domination,space militarization,full spectrum space domination with insurgency can you? with road side bombs?  oh but that will be "too expensive you will say , or no body will dare to attack Russia because have so powerrrrfulllllllll nukes , is that was your endless broken record? but the reality is ,that Russia Nuclear weapons are USELESS to defend Russia.. you heard that right . USELESS . Because they only allowed to be used if Americans attacks with Nukes first.. So all that Americans needs to do ,is attack Russia without nukes .. no problem.. or to do it with nukes but very small ones and outside Russia territory. This is how Americans plays.. they slide and move half step in and out of Russia redlines . So if the rules Are nukes used only to fight nukes.. then americans use biological weapons and chemical weapons ,and hide their hands in the attack.. or  target Russia economy or Russian army fighting outside , or attack Russian allies with ISIS ,forcing Russia to come in their aid..and or provoke war on Russia.. by inciting others nations to attack Russia ,Georgia Ukraine  anyone? how about Turkey attack on Russia airforce?  it shows you are horrible wrong dude.. Russia nuclear weapons are TOTALLY useless , completely . If they are NOT used ,they are worthless. same with S-400s.. if theya are not used.. then Russian allies will continue being attacked . So you udnerstand nothing Garryb about modern ways of wars. US ways to fight with the same intensity of a real war but by proxy . neither understand how Putin  rules of engagement and politics significantly weaken Russia capability to defend its nation.. for what Russia needs 2,000 american "diplomats" in Russia promoting "Democracy" ah? when is pretty obvious that Americans use their embassies to destabilize nations?. This is pure idiocy Garryb.. the strategy of Russia countering Americans.. allowing them to dominate and militarize space is no less that death sentence for Russia.  and allowing US,UK and Israel ,hostile nations to Russia to have thousands of diplomats on Russia ,freely moving ,spying ,recruiting troublemakers is another pure idiocy..  reducing Russia space budget whether civilian or military and increasing the spending in olympics and sports is pure lunacy . Russia biggest flaw of all , is that it always UNDERESTIMATE its enemies , their determination to damage Russia and the second major flaw , is to not know how to fight back.

    If Russia dominated in full space in both  civilian and military, then it will have a Tremendous influence with their business , much more than stupid sports , and will inflict fear on its enemies too.. while at same time attracting friendly and neutral nations interesting in a world of peace and prosperity to move to the Russian orbit. Russia dominating space will give the power of Russia to block or sabotage any nation from its space program and to effectively neutralize ALL enemies  satellites in space in a matter of hours in very short time and very easy.also cut them from internet , from TV ,from radio, and block any army or drones operations.. this is total paralization
    of an army or of a nation.. This is not saying that Russia will need to do it at all.. but that by having the Power to do it , that alone will be a very real deterrence ,much more than Russia nuclear weapons or hypersonic weapons.
    because Russia can simply using Energy weapons ,stealth way of fighting ,can play the same games of US and other enemies and hit them ,stealthily and hide later their hands.. Mysterious explosions of US spaceX program or damage partially US spy satellites their optics ,so they see nothing  , or jam their satellites communications ,from other satellites deployed near , kamikazi satellites ,flying very close to US military satellites. all those things will be a tremendous HUGE deterrence  for US to behave nicely with Russia..   IS all about Positioning.. to have your guns all in the right place , in space , aiming at their targets.. so when the times comes to counter an American hostile aggression  BANG!!!! they lose a couple of billion dollars in space. in seconds in retaliation.. for just 1 soldier killed in Syria ,that was attacked by them..  See this difference? This is REAL deterrences.. no nukes used ,but any hostile actions countered with a very expensive reaction.. but if PUTIN the "Genius" pretends  that Americans will respect Russia ,just because have nukes or hypersonic missiles ,he is seriously wrong. Americans only respect Leadership and Force that is used... not the one that is not.      

    Militarization of space also will allow Russia ,to damage enemy Power Electrical grid..
    imagine a nation like US in total darkness for a week? it will be total chaos ,and surrender after 3 days without electricity to Russia in case US start a small military confrontation as it was the previous American attack on Syria .. that Russia did NOTHING as deterrence to fight back.. having those Kinzhal missiles in space ,can decapitate the leadership of any nation and provoke a major revolution to siege power and  bring down Washington DC.without using a nuke.. meditate about that for hours until you get the idea.. of how INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS is for Russia to not take very very seriously its space program and allow Americans to dominate it.. If Putin really understood how Dangerous is not winning in space , then the idiot will NOT be reducing its space budget in half..as he did ,and neither its military budget to spend it in Social aid or Olympics..  Rolling Eyes

    Russia have a huge major abysmal problem in the world of leadership and of power projection too..and Putin is the responsible for this. He don't understand how to counter Americans.. influence and power . he simply don't know a shit. If he sits down ,waiting Americans to "come back to its senses" then the one who needs to come back to its senses is Putin not them.. Because Americans clearly know what they are doing... They have no reason to change as long PUTIN don't do anything to Fight back.. Understand? if Putin just stays there taking hits .. turning the other cheek when slapped in the face.. then he will get more hits .. understand? Only when Americans Government face painful consequences for their actions ,they will change. But if you have a serial killer and he face no negative consequences at all for his crimes.. he will continue killing until he see his actions ,have very bad consequences for him.. and he is wounded badly every time he attack ,then the aggression will stop. Putin the idiot try to influence American government with Politeness and Good morals , with diplomacy ,that will not work. You saw Obama fired
    50 Russian diplomats and Putin response? Make a party for the CIA ,for the US embassy in Russia...  Laughing  


    https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201805251064813412-us-space-wars-trump/

    So if you look at history of military warfare ,the progress always have been in finding ways how to fight your enemies , beyond the range of their fighting ,while still having them withing your range of visual contact . So the more advanced was the tactics.. the longer the range armies could fight ,without losing accuracy in their attacks.
    So gunpowder changed the way wars were fought ,you fight now as much as possible from distance.. but artillery was invented , then range expanded.. so military could fight from a safer distance.. then the combat planes was invented and this combat range/fighting advantage was multiplied. Bombs could for the first time land right
    above your head ,while the operators of the planes remain safe at all times and remain at safe distance.. and so and so..then air defenses invented to minimize the strong domination air combat had over ground troops.. Now what is next logical level to move forward ? after Air space domination ,that is the most Important doctrine of US military for winning wars, the next step is Space Domination.. and it will be unforgivable ,is more like TREASON , deserve an impeachment  ,that Putin cut in half not only the space budget.. but now even the military budget is being cut significantly , by the idiot , in times Russia is on the brink of a potential war with US or Israel over Syria ,and in brink of a war in eastern Europe too.  Americans don't deny their intentions , they openly say it.. they want militarization of space as fast as possible , [u] TO DENY RUSSIA the use of Space [./u] . But idiots will say.. oh noo , Russia is SO POWERFULLLL have NUKKKSS nobody will attack a russian aircraft no? Ask the Russian pilots killed in Syria by Turkey or ask NATO now bombing Russian army positions with the Syrian army.
    who will have though such a day will come ,were American airforce will be bombing Russians military private contractors ,that obviously had to report to the Russian army ,to avoid accidents..in Syria and Russia government will be looking to the sides when their soldiers killed???

    By Russia having space domination , it will be the ultimate deterrence of all.. A space bomber ,that can enter any nation and leave ,and fire a hypersonic missile and the space bomber not be forced to return to a land base, instead remain in space in position for a new attack.. target NATO aircraft carriers formations right above their heads.. with them hopeless in countering an elusive stealth bomber. Lack of vision is Putin biggest issue.. He is missing so much opportunities and reducing its space budget in half and its military budget significantly too ,was the most retarded thing Putin did in his life , in times like this.. Russia needs a strong space militarization , since americans are not even hiding their intentions to deny space to Russia.. So what is Russia waiting? No
    Oh.. but americans will neeeeeeeeeever dare to hit Russians space satellites or Soyus.. will say Garryb because Russia is sooooo powerrrrrfullllll..  but unfortunately the short sight vision of him , will not allow to see ,that Americans are experts in throwing rocks at Russia and later hiding the hands.. A Rail Gun in space will be more than enough terror weapon ,to hide its attacks on Russia space facilities.. All those Russian Glonass satellites will go down one by one ,and Russia will do nothing about it.. because will have no way to proof Americans are behind the sabotage of the satellites.. so is sad the colossal level of ignorance of skeptics in this forum.. that do not see the serious danger it will be for Russia to allow Americans domination of space.. Russia should simply quit , and resign its sovereignty if believe ,it will be able to continue its development in the world ..by allowing Americans a full spectrum dominance and militarization of space. No

    developing the Russian economy today or building warships ,submarines ,developing ANYTHING in Russia will be totally MEANINGLESS , if Russia don't recognize Americans are ALREADY in an undeclared war against Russia and don't see how dangerous will be for Russia allowing US to start deploying weapons on space.. Because Americans are already in an undeclared war on Russia..and domination of space is the ULTIMATE deterrence , then Russia can't allow US to dominate space ,in any way shape or form.. understand? It needs at least to Compete. .Which they have been saying all the time will do ,but the idiot of Putin don't listen.  He thinks that by happing powerful nukes is all they need... to protect Russia.. No  Russian nuclear weapons , means ABSOLUTE SHIT... , in defending Russia interest in Ukraine and Syria.. So Russia will continue being attacked ,Russian soldiers killed , Russians planes shot down , Economy Attacked ,terrorism attacks all coordinated by enemies in Russia, Russia economy bring to its knees and Russia will continue to look PATHETIC weak nation in the world. Something that could completely change if Russia recognized is at war already ,and understood how vital for Russia future existence , to dominate space , before Americans do it.. otherwise it will be too late. Russia nuclear weapons are meaningless , if they can't really help  Russia from its enemies attacking her. Dominating Space , is the thing that will make for the first TIME , very very Expensive any American aggression and make them truly fear Russia and that will truly make them to change... and dominating space in civilian exploration ,will give a huge bonus ,a major motivation for US to stop its hostilities against Russia.. understand?  So is Russia existence what is in play... and nothing is more expensive than being powerless as Russia clearly is today ,to stop Americans attacks on Russia ,through many ways..

     Russia needs 1)REAL deterrence but also 2)REAL influence.. and Full spectrum Space domination is what will do it..   Russia full militarization of space and full domination with its civilian space program ,leading space explorations is what will Force AND Influence (both) Americans to go to the negotiating table
    in a major treaty and allow Russia to DEMAND a reduction of American warships and their traveling near Russia borders from a strike distance.. and to remove All American military bases near Russia and any part of eastern Europe a no NATO navigation zone , for NATO to retreat... to germany ,where they claimed will not move to the east. and even could force US to cut its naval fleet in half.. the demands of what Russia could ask ,,will all depends on how STRONG Russia is in space in both in civilian exploration and in military domination.. Cutting the budget in space by half and reducing its military spending while increasing the spending in Olympic Shit and social aid.. is the most retarded thing Putin have done.. this is like treason.. No and my only hope is that all this claims of reducing budget were is more important is just a smoke wall ,to hide the most ambitious investment ever in Space for military and civilian purpose.. but i don't think so.. he have shown to be totally clueless in how to counter the west ,in a way the stop its attacks on Russia.


    Nothing will be more scary for US that having a space bomber carrier (permanently above their heads) or for several hours every day ,flying right above washington DC , armed with dozens of Hypersonic Kinzhal missiles , not knowing what are Russia intentions.. if they will attack or not , if it is a training? or a preparation for a preventive strike ?  or just another orbit pass of their space ship..
    a dozen of  space bomber with a kinzhal hypersonic missile flying over/or near washington DC or other important US military/naval bases., could strike any part of US without warning at any part of US, in less than 1 minute and completely remove the leadership of any nation ,including its parliament and provoke a civil war ,or it will be a nightmare for US aircraft carriers battle groups to observe how defenseless they are ,if Russia position their space bombers right above their nearest space zone ,above their aircraft carrier positions. meaning that Russia could wipe out with a dozen of space orbit bombers , a dozen of Aircraft carriers groups in one Shot.. in just a minute ,since the order is given to attack. The benefits are endless in space domination . this is even better than Hypersonic missiles.. that are launched from planes that needs to land ,and can't be in air all the time.. With a Space bomber ,you can have PERMANENTLY for weeks or months a bomber with a hypersonic missile ,right above potential targets. and the deterrence will be comparable of having an enemy aiming a gun at your face at all time withing 5 meters of distance and with you disarmed.. This is how Real Deterrence looks like.. to have your enemies all the time aimed with a Gun.. in this case a Space gun.and they knowing well ,than all that Russia needs to wipe US leadership is 1 minute  ,and hit with a conventional or nuclear warhead.  So even going to the toilet ,for a president could be a national security thing..  lol1 because of the so little time for preparations that they will have to move to the bunkers. The scary thing is that Americans are moving in this direction , they had their mini space shuttle allowed to fly for years in space..  No  and Putin is eating shit. not doing anything to militarize space.. Putin is really taking Russia to an abyss ,if he don't help Russia achieve Space domination.. and allows its enemies to do it.  No
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    Post  George1 on Mon May 28, 2018 4:24 am

    Source: new Roscosmos head to operate piloted launch from Baikonur cosmodrome on June 6

    MOSCOW, May 28. /TASS/. New Roscosmos head Dmitry Rogozin will operate the launch of a Soyuz-FG carrier rocket with a Soyuz MS-09 piloted spacecraft from the Baikonur cosmodrome on June 6, a space industry source told TASS.

    "Rogozin will come to the cosmodrome on June 5, where he will attend a state commission that will take the decision on whether the rocket is ready to be launched on the scheduled date," the source said. "First deputy head of Roscosmos Alexander Ivanov will head the commission," he added.

    "On June 6, Dmitry Rogozin as head of the state corporation will administer the manned launch. He is also expected to be at the cosmodrome’s observation site during the launch," the source said.

    TASS has no official comment from Roscosmos.

    The Soyuz-FG rocket and the Soyuz MS-09 spacecraft are to be launched at 14:12 Moscow time on June 6 from site number 1, the so-called Gagarin’s Start. Russian cosmonaut Sergei Prokopyev, astronaut from the European Space Agency Alexander Gerst and NASA astronaut Serena Maria Aunon-Chancellor will go to the International Space Station aboard the space vessel.

    A new appointment


    Russian President Vladimir Putin appointed former Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin as Roscosmos Director General on Thursday, May 24. Shortly before it, the president had met with Rogozin and suggested him occupying this position. Putin recommended Rogozin to renew the state corporation’s team by inviting there experienced specialists with proficient knowledge in the area.

    Another space industry source told TASS that Rogozin would embark upon his duties on Monday, May 28, and hold the first working meeting.


    More:
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed May 30, 2018 7:30 am

    https://sputniknews.com/science/201805301064927907-roscosmos-funds-change-state-program/?utm_source=https://t.co/uRDKuifcOL&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=hDcC&utm_campaign=URL_shortening

    Another year, another bouts of crying for more money from Roscosmos.

    They will have to instead of have all these dreams, do one thing at a time - get Vostochny up, then get Angara and other rockets ready, and then get to work on interplanetary and what not. Seek out cooperation with China, India and Iran, etc etc etc.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed May 30, 2018 12:54 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:

    Another year, another bouts of crying for more money from Roscosmos.

    They will have to instead of have all these dreams, do one thing at a time - get Vostochny up, then get Angara and other rockets ready, and then get to work on interplanetary and what not.  Seek out cooperation with China, India and Iran, etc etc etc.

    The other way si to ensure money is wisely spent not just spent:


    The ten biggest violations uncovered by the Accounts Chamber under Golikova


    Space Industry
    The most large-scale violations in the expenditure of budget funds are related to the space industry. During the inspections, 151 violations were identified, and 785.5 billion rubles were irrationally used , and the lion's share of this sum was spent during the transfer of property from one agency to another.

    Claims from the auditors, and then the investigators were on the part of the liquidation commission of the Federal Space Agency. It turned out that within the framework of the abolishment of the agency and the transfer of its property to the Roskosmos state corporation, violations were found for a total of 627.4 billion rubles.
    https://www.eg.ru/economics/530938/
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    Post  kvs on Wed May 30, 2018 9:20 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:

    Another year, another bouts of crying for more money from Roscosmos.

    They will have to instead of have all these dreams, do one thing at a time - get Vostochny up, then get Angara and other rockets ready, and then get to work on interplanetary and what not.  Seek out cooperation with China, India and Iran, etc etc etc.

    The other way si to ensure money is wisely spent not just spent:


    The ten biggest violations uncovered by the Accounts Chamber under Golikova



    Space Industry
    The most large-scale violations in the expenditure of budget funds are related to the space industry. During the inspections, 151 violations were identified, and 785.5 billion rubles were irrationally used , and the lion's share of this sum was spent during the transfer of property from one agency to another.

    Claims from the auditors, and then the investigators were on the part of the liquidation commission of the Federal Space Agency. It turned out that within the framework of the abolishment of the agency and the transfer of its property to the Roskosmos state corporation, violations were found for a total of 627.4 billion rubles.
    https://www.eg.ru/economics/530938/


    Now we know why Rogozin was appointed. All you haters and SpaceX sycophants should just STFU.

    I hope Rogozin cleans house really well. It would be nice to see some of these rotten clowns doing hard jail time.
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    Post  Hole on Wed May 30, 2018 9:41 pm

    They should do something useful. Like sweeping a launch pad or so.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed May 30, 2018 10:55 pm

    Hole wrote:They should do something useful. Like sweeping a launch pad or so.

    Or better yet sweeping the yard in East Vladimir as all criminals should

    Fuck that, this is act of treason, Black Dolphin Supermax all the way...
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed May 30, 2018 11:20 pm

    I agree entirely - huge portion of money is lost in Roscosmos due to corruption and misuse of funds overall. And what does Roscosmos want to fix it? More money. Instead, fix the system and all that money lost will magically appear to be used for investments and development.

    Do same with Roscosmos as it was done with the MiC.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu May 31, 2018 1:41 am

    kvs wrote:
    Now we know why Rogozin was appointed.    All you haters and SpaceX sycophants should just STFU.  

    I hope Rogozin cleans house really well.   It would be nice to see some of these rotten clowns doing hard jail time.

    me thinks so too. Rogozin is
    a) definitaly "gosudarstvennik" and Putin's man
    b) he is kind of showmen which is good in PR and this is definitely what Roscomos  lacks
    c) finally under his supervision GLONASS started to be self-sufficient or I am wrong?


    BTW Look like recently Kurnitehv found d way magically decrease 3x labor intensity to build Angara... they must have felt Rogozin's hot breath...

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    miketheterrible wrote:I agree entirely - huge portion of money is lost in Roscosmos due to corruption and misuse of funds overall.  And what does Roscosmos want to fix it? More money.  Instead, fix the system and all that money lost will magically appear to be used for investments and development.

    Thet is my idea baout Putin's plan - before you open the dam with river of water money make sure your irrigation doesn't leak...

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