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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:10 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:https://topwar.ru/156871-platformu-morskogo-starta-perebazirujut-iz-ssha-na-dalnij-vostok.html

    Looks like S7 is planning to move Sea Launch platform to far east Russia from US coast.

    This thing will look super cool in Vladivostok port

    Now let's just get rocket up and running, Mark Serov and his crew are now designing manned spacecraft for S7, loads of potential there

    Main reason was mentioned that Soyuz would not be allowed by US and S7 told them to fuck themselves as they will not renew Zenit procurement.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:16 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:https://topwar.ru/156871-platformu-morskogo-starta-perebazirujut-iz-ssha-na-dalnij-vostok.html

    Looks like S7 is planning to move Sea Launch platform to far east Russia from US coast.

    This thing will look super cool in Vladivostok port

    Now let's just get rocket up and running, Mark Serov and his crew are now designing manned spacecraft for S7, loads of potential there

    Main reason was mentioned that Soyuz would not be allowed by US and S7 told them to fuck themselves as they will not renew Zenit procurement.


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    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:50 pm

    So S7 tears up the Banderite Zenit contract and then the Russian owner dies in a plane crash that looks like
    sabotage (no fuel or water in fuel). Now there is talk of Sea Launch being removed from American shores.
    A rather consistent picture of Russian-American relations and the sort of slimy tricks that Americunts are
    wont to engage in.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:35 am

    I am surprised the Americans haven't tried to impose sanctions and seized the assets etc... I mean they kidnap Russian pilots and put them in prison, and Russian pro gun students...

    Good to see another link to the Ukraine closed... I am surprised they didn't close it themselves... they are normally keen to distance themselves from Russia and Russian projects...
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    Post  Hole on Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:15 am

    Because Boeing was invested in it.
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:49 pm

    GarryB wrote:Good to see another link to the Ukraine closed... I am surprised they didn't close it themselves... they are normally keen to distance themselves from Russia and Russian projects...

    The Ukros are desperate for contracts to keep their aerospace industry alive - without them Yuzmash/Yuznoye will go the way of Antonov. The Banderite c_ntz are so desperate that they will agree to make Zenits for the "agressor nation", so that sez it all.

    Best to ignore them and replace every last fecking piece of Ukropi hardware/software in Russian aerospace. Let the murderous bastards rot in their own shit. Twisted Evil
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:32 am

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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:07 pm

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-21/pacex-crew-dragon-suffers-anomaly-likely-result-nasa-investigation

    SpaceX is going to show Russians a thing or two. Those Russian morons can't add two numbers, let alone build rocket engines.
    At least that is the condescending tone of all those that trot out the "fact" that Russian aerospace is irrelevant and doomed.

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    Post  Vann7 on Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:40 am

    kvs wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-21/pacex-crew-dragon-suffers-anomaly-likely-result-nasa-investigation

    SpaceX is going to show Russians a thing or two.   Those Russian morons can't add two numbers, let alone build rocket engines.
    At least that is the condescending tone of all those that trot out the "fact" that Russian aerospace is irrelevant and doomed.


    The spacex dragon capsule ,was showing signs of problems ,before their explosive test.
    Russian cosmonauts was told by RT ,felt a strong smell of some kind of chemical substance
    when the capsule docks on the ISS.. so the problems began earlier than their reentry ..
    So it was dying already the capsule ,when it reach the ISS.. It could be a mistake in the
    assembly.. someone confused ositive and negative poles in the battery.. lol1
    One American scientist made comments about the orange substance ,that spread in the air
    when the dragon capsule exploded.. basically it will be lethal deadly to be sprayed by that fuel ,
    the substance inside you ,eats your lungs and will get you permanently sick..

    so it could me an Engine problem or worse an alloy problem of the capsule which means
    to go back to drawing board.. and could take more than a year to get a new resesigned capsule
    to restart the test..

    btw..
    Isn't this the same nation that could go to the moon with humans 9x times ,like if it was
    going to the park ? but after 10 years of massive perfection.. they send to a museum the Rocket ,abandon the moon projects and try a space shuttle instead that explodes in air and then when that failed ,to buy Russian engines?


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    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:10 pm

    I had previously posted the video of the failed SpaceX static test, yet it seems to have been deleted?....

    I don't suppose admins can advise why? Suspect
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    Post  kvs on Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:54 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:I had previously posted the video of the failed SpaceX static test, yet it seems to have been deleted?....

    I don't suppose admins can advise why?  Suspect


    I can't find it in any other thread too.



    Maybe there is some sort of aggressive Youtube enforcement of copyright and this board has been threatened.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:45 am

    I didn't delete it, and I wont delete it from this thread either because with all the whining about how terrible the Russian space programme is and how freaken perfect the American one is I think it is important to remember space is hard and things are dangerous and everything looks easy when done right, but it only takes one mistake or just bad luck and things can turn to custard.

    BTW in this thread:

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3448p150-nasa-launch-vehicles-and-spacecraft-discussion-news?highlight=SpaceX

    In post number 162 is the original post of this video or something like it and it is still there...

    If you have posted it in a few other threads it is possible another mod might have thought posting it in multiple threads is spam.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:14 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:I had previously posted the video of the failed SpaceX static test, yet it seems to have been deleted?....

    I don't suppose admins can advise why?  Suspect


    I can't find it in any other thread too.



    Maybe there is some sort of aggressive Youtube enforcement of copyright and this board has been threatened.




    Nothing so dramatic, it was just moved here where it belongs since it has nothing to do with Russian space programme:

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3448p150-nasa-launch-vehicles-and-spacecraft-discussion-news#254428
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:21 pm

    GarryB wrote:I didn't delete it, and I wont delete it from this thread either because with all the whining about how terrible the Russian space programme is and how freaken perfect the American one is I think it is important to remember space is hard and things are dangerous and everything looks easy when done right, but it only takes one mistake or just bad luck and things can turn to custard.

    BTW in this thread:

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3448p150-nasa-launch-vehicles-and-spacecraft-discussion-news?highlight=SpaceX

    In post number 162 is the original post of this video or something like it and it is still there...

    If you have posted it in a few other threads it is possible another mod might have thought posting it in multiple threads is spam.

    Thanks GarryB, and truth be told, I didn't even know we had a topic for Muskian affairs Laughing

    BTW I posted it in Russian Space News mainly as SpaceX is held up by the Atlantacists as the paragon of innovation that Russia is incapable of emulating cuz they are stupid ignorant drunken slavs with no imagination... When it occasionally all goes wrong its an example that the US is is not all perfect and without peer. Yes, I know I'm I'm drawing a long bow...
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:23 am

    And as I said I agree... when three human beings are in a Russian rocket that aborts to prevent killing those human beings it seems that some chicken littles here think the sky is falling.... Russia can't make anything right and NASA dominates space for sure... and when it was pointed out that space travel is dangerous and things can always go wrong but at least the rescue system has been tested and proven to work correctly it is still not good enough... and why are the americans so far ahead in space technology... musk would never tolerate such poor quality control or mismanagement... well it seems the capsule rescue system probably would have killed the crew if that had been for real in this US design.

    Bad things can always happen, that is not a good test of quality control or of management... when things go wrong that can kill people but the people survive because of failsafes and rescue systems built in to the design then that is both good design and good management. (In times where there is seriously limited funding it is easy to cut corners to cut costs and that includes not testing things properly... the Russians could easily have said that the rescue system has not been needed for how many decades... why not make it cheaper and lighter... no.)
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    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:33 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:I had previously posted the video of the failed SpaceX static test, yet it seems to have been deleted?....

    I don't suppose admins can advise why?  Suspect

    it is in the relative thread, NASA spacecraft topic

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3448p150-nasa-launch-vehicles-and-spacecraft-discussion-news#254428

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