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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:18 pm

    Photos on SF showing some minor damage at T4.

    Interestingly, some photos show at least one MiG-25, and they've been dispersed to pads outside the reinforced shelters.

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    Post  lulldapull Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:31 pm

    4 Iranians confirmed killed in this attack at T-4. I bet Iran will retaliate for this:

    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13970120001385
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    Post  Guest Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:43 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Photos on SF showing some minor damage at T4.

    Interestingly, some photos show at least one MiG-25, and they've been dispersed to pads outside the reinforced shelters.

    I think none are operational.
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    Post  Isos Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:54 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Photos on SF showing some minor damage at T4.

    Interestingly, some photos show at least one MiG-25, and they've been dispersed to pads outside the reinforced shelters.

    There is a second one in front of the mig-25 on the right. Another one on the left if you zoom but it is not clear enough to know what jet it is.
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    Post  medo Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:02 pm

    Jet in front of MiG-25 is SyAF Su-24M.
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    Post  nomadski Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:08 pm

    RIP to all those that died . First the area needs to be searched fully , to find type of guidance for missiles . This will help in future for jamming tactic . Second personnel in high risk area can be sheltered in bunker . Also aircraft . Right now better to retaliate with low tech than attack/defend with high tech . All this could be just expeditionary examination of defences .

    The SAA expected GPS guided missiles ? That is why they moved planes out of bunker ? Then why did the usraelis used Lebanon to release the missiles ? Close to target ? This indicate optical guidance or TV guidance . I think logically that GPS can be jammed easier than unknown radio frequency . Maybe that is why they used TV . IF I am right , then planes were still hit outside bunkers . Did Iran not make a laser optical jammer ?




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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:33 pm

    I read somewhere that 2-3 were still in service didn't say what variant but likely to be RB. High operating costs and limited bombing use, it's much cheaper and more effective to use mig-21,mig-23, su-22,su-24 which is more suitable aircraft and the interceptor variant being useless due to Russian air defence and aircraft.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:31 pm

    Vann, where do you get the time and why do you write such a wall of text when I doubt many if any will slog through it?

    Anyway, seems an Iranian UAV specialist Colonel has bitten the dust.


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    IRGC-affiliated media have thus far confirmed that 4 Iranians were killed in Israeli strikes on T-4 airbase in Syria's Homs: Col. Mehdi Dehghan, Seyyed Ammar Mousavi, Akbar Javar-Jannati and Mehdi Lotfi-Niasar.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:58 pm

    I highly doubt Iran will do anything in retaliation to this.

    Also anyone know what air defence systems shot down the 5 missiles?
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    Post  lycantrop Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:02 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:I highly doubt Iran will do anything in retaliation to this.

    Also anyone know what air defence systems shot down the 5 missiles?

    Iran will, but asymetrically

    Syria should launch a Tochka missile at the israeli base the F-15 started from, thats the only proper answer to this provocation.
    Next time the zionists will think twice about starting another provocations.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:16 am

    Not good but then the Israelis don't give a shit, they ain't expecting any blowback.

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    #Syria #Homs As of 2 Hours ago a #Iranian Soldier says the Number of Martyred IRGC is now at 11 after early this morning #Israel #Israeli Aggression struck T4 Airport/Airbase Area. So far only 5 Names & Photos have been Released. #IRGC #Iran #Iranian.

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    Post  lycantrop Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:36 am

    JohninMK wrote:Not good but then the Israelis don't give a shit, they ain't expecting any blowback.

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    #Syria #Homs As of 2 Hours ago a #Iranian Soldier says the Number of Martyred IRGC is now at 11 after early this morning #Israel #Israeli Aggression struck T4 Airport/Airbase Area. So far only 5 Names & Photos have been Released. #IRGC #Iran #Iranian.


    dont worry, Iran will retaliate asymetrically (Hezbollah...)
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:01 am

    Forget IRAN.. and hezbolah...

    This is going to get Ugly..
    BREAKING: US SHIPS AND JETS MOVING TO THE COAST OF SYRIA

    The United States and the UK are readying for potential military action against Bashar Al-Assad
    by maneuvering attack ships and fighter jets into position off the coast of Syria.



    [u]Russia should declared a limited regional war ,to any foreign warship /combat planes that pose a major threat to the security of Russian army in Syria.. and order Submarines to position along the US eastern coast..

    If US attacks waves of cruise missiles ,automatically the order should be given to attack..
    If american retaliate to Russia main land or continue with the hostilities after demanded to stop,
    Russia should strike washintong DC in a symbolical place.. with no or little casualties..with a nuclear strike..

    At this point.. it will be impossible to for Americans to continue with their cold war with Russia..
    and with their war against Syria.. it will be either Trump risk a full scale war or else he retreat from Syria..

    iF Putin Do nothing.. it will only encourage major attacks..
    Specially from Israel.. Sinking a few warships if the west attack Syria will teach Americans a major lesson...
    They will understand ,that if they do not stop now that they can.. that later it will risk losing everything.

    The cold war during the cuban missile crisis ,was only stopped because the soviets had a very hard line
    with Americans.. and threatened to Nuke US cities if attack CUba.. Is putin Turn now.. Putin being soft
    now will be death sentence for Syria. No

    Is important that Russia realize ,Americans /Israel and UK but also France ,have been in a indirect war with Russia since the Ukraine conflict.. started. but also since they began to arm terrorist in Syria in 2011.

    So that Putin have no illusions ,that the Americans will be possible to negotiate.. if Trump attacks..
    Then Putin should give away any hopes and give a real big punch back.. to any warhips targeting Syria and
    the security of Russian forces..

    What people need also to know is that after an initial wave of attacks and counter attacks .and casualties on both
    sides ,they will be no doubts that Americans crossed a line that is not negotiable. for Russia and will prefer a war ..
    and only once Russia show major show of power.. then the west will retreat.. from Syria.. Europe very likely
    will intervene and demand both sides to stop.. so i don't think US or Britain will want a full scale war over Syria.


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    Post  George1 Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:01 am

    UN Security Council Holds Meeting on Alleged Chemical Attack in Syria

    Updates as they come: https://sptnkne.ws/hmhM
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    Post  Guest Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:19 am

    Alex Jones... good source. The flat Earth society didnt have anything on the topic?
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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:23 am

    Militarov wrote:Alex Jones... good source. The flat Earth society didnt have anything on the topic?

    And your sources are what? CNN and BBC....
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    Post  lycantrop Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:25 am

    Vann7 wrote:Forget IRAN.. and hezbolah...

    This is going to get Ugly..
    BREAKING: US SHIPS AND JETS MOVING TO THE COAST OF SYRIA

    The United States and the UK are readying for potential military action against Bashar Al-Assad
    by maneuvering attack ships and fighter jets into position off the coast of Syria.



    [u]Russia should declared a limited regional war ,to any foreign warship /combat planes that pose a major threat to the security of Russian army in Syria.. and order Submarines to position along the US eastern coast..

    If US attacks waves of cruise missiles ,automatically the order should be given to attack..
    If american retaliate to Russia main land or continue with the hostilities after demanded to stop,
    Russia should strike washintong DC in a symbolical place.. with no or little casualties..with a nuclear strike..

    At this point.. it will be impossible to for Americans to continue with their cold war with Russia..
    and with their war against Syria.. it will be either Trump risk a full scale war or else he retreat from Syria..

    iF Putin Do nothing.. it will only encourage major attacks..
    Specially from Israel.. Sinking a few warships if the west attack Syria will teach Americans a major lesson...
    They will understand ,that if they do not stop now that they can.. that later it will risk losing everything.

    The cold war during the cuban missile crisis ,was only stopped because the soviets had a very hard line
    with Americans.. and threatened to Nuke US cities if attack CUba.. Is putin Turn now.. Putin being soft
    now will be death sentence for Syria. No

    Is important that Russia realize ,Americans /Israel and UK but also France ,have been in a indirect war with Russia since the Ukraine conflict.. started. but also since they began to arm terrorist in Syria in 2011.

    So that Putin have no illusions ,that the Americans will be possible to negotiate.. if Trump attacks..
    Then Putin should give away any hopes and give a real big punch back.. to any warhips targeting Syria and
    the security of Russian forces..

    What people need also to know is that after an initial wave of attacks and counter attacks .and casualties on both
    sides ,they will be no doubts that Americans crossed a line that is not negotiable. for Russia and will prefer a war ..
    and only once Russia show major show of power.. then the west will retreat.. from Syria..  Europe very likely
    will intervene and demand both sides to stop.. so i don't think US or Britain will want a full scale war over Syria.

    What was Alex Jones doing last weeks?
    US Ships are positioned in mediterran sea and persian gulf since weeks, nothing new
    Why you think we had Putins speech on 1st March?
    Russia/Iran/Syria know whats going on, anti ship missiles are prepared, lately a Russian Anti Submarine Plane also arrived in Syria.
    Question is how this will play out.

    This baby is one of Nato´s biggest nightmares, russian submarine hunter, Il-38N

    As i mentioned already, Russia knows exactly the location of enemys subs, they have satellites tracking them + planes/helicopters with highly sensitive sensors, no analogs in this world!





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    Post  Guest Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:30 am

    kvs wrote:
    Militarov wrote:Alex Jones... good source. The flat Earth society didnt have anything on the topic?

    And your sources are what?   CNN and BBC....

    I dont recall ever posting anything having CNN or BBC as source. Even if i ever did it was a tertiary source of something already well documented. But... good try i guess.. or ...whatever. Suspect
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:52 am

    lycantrop wrote:
    What was Alex Jones doing last weeks?
    US Ships are positioned in mediterran sea and persian gulf since weeks, nothing new
    Why you think we had Putins speech on 1st March?
    Russia/Iran/Syria know whats going on, anti ship missiles are prepared, lately a Russian Anti Submarine Plane also arrived in Syria.
    Question is how this will play out.

    This baby is one of Nato´s biggest nightmares, russian submarine hunter, Il-38N

    As i mentioned already, Russia knows exactly the location of enemys subs, they have satellites tracking them + planes/helicopters with highly sensitive sensors, no analogs in this world!


    Sounds Good then.. hope you are right..  Smile

    Truly this United States testing Russia ,to see if they capitulate and negotiate for giving up Syria for "peace",
    But im convinced that as soon AMericans get a warship destroyed bypassing their defenses.. they will retreat..
    but it will be a temporary retreat.. Eventually Russia will have to use nukes ,lets say detonate a huge bomb
    near US coast ,so they get the message..a Tzar Bomb detonation near US waters.. and film it on video ,so they see it,,will teach Americans a lesson.. that the can't disrespect Russia. it will make the warhawks in congress become chicken overnight. Russia will also to shut down several israeli planes too and hit Israel military base to send a message.. too.. that needs to retreat from Syria and from Ukraine too and respect Russia allies..
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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:12 am

    lol, people here are panicking after a half ass missile attack that killed 4 Iranians. lol. In case people here haven't noticed, today, Mr Assad also controls Ghouta, and the SYAA will be laying siege to Idlib soon. At this rate entire Syria should be liberated by next year or a bit later. The Russo-Iranian axis is the least bit perturbed by these air strikes.

    The situation can only get serious if NATO physically invades Syria!........That's it! And that gent's is not happening. Slowly but surely Syria continues towards victory. Today Assad controls 86% of Syrian territory. 5 years ago Assad controlled less than 40% of Syrian territory.

    P.S. Iran will avenge those killed in this airstrike. That is a certainty too.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:09 am

    lulldapull wrote:lol, people here are panicking after a half ass missile attack that killed 4 Iranians. lol. In case people here haven't noticed, today, Mr Assad also controls Ghouta, and the SYAA will be laying siege to Idlib soon. At this rate entire Syria should be liberated by next year or a bit later. The Russo-Iranian axis is the least bit perturbed by these air strikes.

    The situation can only get serious if NATO physically invades Syria!........That's it! And that gent's is not happening. Slowly but surely Syria continues towards victory. Today Assad controls 86% of Syrian territory. 5 years ago Assad controlled less than 40% of Syrian territory.

    P.S. Iran will avenge those killed in this airstrike. That is a certainty too.

    is not about the 4 iranians.. is about that attack being just a warning.. to Russia that Israel will not
    care about the life of Russian soldiers for being in Syria.. this was a clear act of war by Israel...
    If there was Russian soldiers in Homs.. many will have been killed.

    Trump is now saying is preparing for a very strong response.. and now talking to france
    and britain to help.. So this could be a 100 missiles attack. what if Russian solders die?
    and Russia retaliates to a warship ? and sink it.. what will happen next?
    Because of how bad are the relations and the tensions.. another attack on Syria will be
    seen as another act of war...and major attack on Russia. a clear message that NATO will continue
    targeting Syria regardless of Russian lives.. so What Russia is supposed to do?  do nothing?
    If US attack Syria , there is a real risk .of Russia bombing american soldiers in Syria in retaliation to
    kick them from eastern Syria.. so they could retaliate and this could only escalate.. towards a regional war..
    around Syria territory and its borders..  This is like a street fight.. that one side have been harassing and bullying the other for very long..  once the bully launch the first punch.. the retaliation could be a full scale fight and could get out of control in a matter of minutes... aside you also have other players ,like Israel that could do a false flag..
    lets say attack Russia military base ,to make it look was americans. and will try to provoke US and Russia into limited nuclear war that could be impossible to stop and become full in little time.. so this is as bad as Cuban missile crisis.
    If there was 200 Russian soldiers in that precise place , in that military base.. we will be speaking about 200 russian soldiers killed by Israel not 4 Iranians. and this was clearly an act of war. medvedev today already hinted at this.
    That Russia was not happy about this ..and that Russia will not forget it.
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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:48 am

    Vann7, you spin it whichever way you want buddy. Iran and Russia both know how to handle this. Escalation needs to be avoided, and at the same time keep taking over terrorist enclaves, steadily.......That's exactly how this will get done!

    Iran has already pushed all US backed terrorists out of Iraq........the same time tested method is being applied in Syria.

    Keep in mind, 14% of Syrian territory only left in foreign hands, and most of that 14% is under the betrayal prone Kurds. Iran won't even fight the Kurds, but rather bribe them over to its side (remember what Iran did in Kirkuk).

    Keep watching and enjoying the drama. Not long to go now.
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    Post  Cyberspec Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:53 am

    lulldapull wrote:lol, people here are panicking after a half ass missile attack that killed 4 Iranians. lol. In case people here haven't noticed, today, Mr Assad also controls Ghouta, and the SYAA will be laying siege to Idlib soon. At this rate entire Syria should be liberated by next year or a bit later. The Russo-Iranian axis is the least bit perturbed by these air strikes.

    The situation can only get serious if NATO physically invades Syria!........That's it! And that gent's is not happening. Slowly but surely Syria continues towards victory. Today Assad controls 86% of Syrian territory. 5 years ago Assad controlled less than 40% of Syrian territory.

    P.S. Iran will avenge those killed in this airstrike. That is a certainty too.

    I agree...but that's why they're escalating and things can easily get out of control, especially considering the people running the US at the moment....not exactly confidence inspiring
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