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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  VladimirSahin on Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:44 am

    Lads, I've been looking for articles regarding purchase of T-90AMs I thought it was announced they'd be bought. Any news regarding it?
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Mike E on Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:56 am

    It was announced a while ago (with the T-90M models at Army-2015) and later reinforced at RAE. 

    Nothing new since then, I suspect;
    - Delays from Armata and B3 upgrading. 
    - It simply hasn't been put into motion yet. 

    I wouldn't worry - worst case scenario we get more T-14's instead.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  VladimirSahin on Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:01 am

    Mike E wrote:It was announced a while ago (with the T-90M models at Army-2015) and later reinforced at RAE. 

    Nothing new since then, I suspect;
    - Delays from Armata and B3 upgrading. 
    - It simply hasn't been put into motion yet. 

    I wouldn't worry - worst case scenario we get more T-14's instead.

    I see, Thanks for the info. It's just I want some T-90Ms in service Very Happy when are the first T-14s being brought into service?
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Mike E on Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:20 am

    If I had to guess - mid to late 2017 is the most likely date. It's been known for a while that 2016 would be full of testing and trials. Assuming they are finished early-17, then...mid that year. 

    Could be early next year if we are lucky. 

    (And 2S35 should be in service by the end of this year - maybe atop the Armata chassis.)

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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Austin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:57 am

    Can any one answer this query

    1 ) Any internal picture of how ammo is stored inside the turret of T-90 tanks , I believe 22 are in autoloader the rest are stored in turret.

    2 ) In case of T-90MS , 22 are in autoloaded , but 18 are stored externally isnt that a draw back as they cannot be loaded without going out and cannot be accessed externally ?
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Mike E on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:06 am



    2) 8 of those 18 rounds are kept in-vehicle adjacent to the carousel, being protected by armoured boxes. 


    Generally, 30 rounds is more than enough.

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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Austin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:17 am

    Mike E wrote:
    2) 8 of those 18 rounds are kept in-vehicle adjacent to the carousel, being protected by armoured boxes. 

    Any images on how they look like

    Also if they how to load it in the autoloader how do they do it ? is it time consuming affair ?
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:34 pm

    The 22 rounds in the under floor autoloader have an armoured plate over the top so any turret penetration will not effect the ammo with a shower of sparks and hot fragments.

    the 8 further rounds stored in the hull are reportedly in a small armoured box behind the turret ring in front of the engine.

    The remaining 13 rounds are in the rear turret bustle separated from the crew compartment.

    Generally in combat it is not direct contact with enemy all the time and during a lull in the fighting the tank can withdraw to a safe area with cover where the crew can retrieve the rounds from the rear turret bustle and load them into the autoloader and internal ammo box.

    It means they don't have to fully withdraw to the staging area for a reload.

    With accuracy improvements and improved sensors 43 rounds is a lot of fire power on its own.

    the alternative of having live rounds in the crew compartment is a death sentence for the crew if the vehicle is penetrated.


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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Austin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:16 pm

    Thanks Garry but its total 40 rounds not 43.

    Do you have any pictures of the armoured box where the Ammo is stored behind the turret ring in front of engine ? Does the T-90 tank also stores it similarly ?

    How does one reload the round in the autoloader ? Any videos and is it a simple affair ?
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:14 am

    43 for the standard T-90...

    I have not seen any videos of reloading the autoloader but each component is handed into the turret to a crewman sitting in the commanders seat with the shield protecting him from the gun breach open. Very simply a propellent charge and a single round are handed in one at a time to be loaded into the under floor magazine with the type of ammo recorded in the autoloader system so when a type of round is selected for loading the mechanism can spin around to the correct position for that type of round to be loaded (and the propellent stub).

    Loading rounds stored internally would obviously be easier, but still relatively slow...


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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Zivo on Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:49 pm

    Check this out. A really cool interactive panoramic view of the T-90 for the V-Day rehearsal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9MM0WDe9eA
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:56 pm

    WTF 360°?
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  AlfaT8 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:17 am

    Werewolf wrote:WTF 360°?

    +1 WW, first time i ever heard that.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Dima on Tue May 10, 2016 8:06 pm

    In the morning when I read Aldin's post I didn't understand what he meant by his below post, but now I get why it was... Hope it is true and there was not much of a damage.

    Aldin Abazović ‏@Ald_Aba 20 hours ago
    Southern #Aleppo #Syria - #Russia #SAA T-90 21_6 active again..
    https://twitter.com/Ald_Aba/status/729788187573428225

    Btw, from the videos posted it looks like the tank was having its back/side exposed to the terrorists LOS. Hope the crew is safe.


    SouthFront: Militants use US-made BGM 71 against Russian-made T-90 in Aleppo province
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/southfront-militants-use-us-made-bgm-71-russian-made-t-90-aleppo-province/

    On May 10, the Free Syrian Army released a video, claiming that they destroyed a Russian-made T-90 with a US-made anti-tank missile, BGM-71 TOW. The incident allegedly took place near Humayra, 10 kilometers south of Aleppo City.

    Pro-militant sources that the battle tank has been destroyed.

    Other sources report that this T-90 has been observed active in Southern Aleppo after the event:





    Anyway waiting to hear more on the strike and the assessment. But like the previous successful strike on T-90 (means in cases where the TOW actually managed to get a contact on the tank), in this case also there is not much footage release from the terrorists side.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Dima on Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:28 pm

    This new development is probably a direct result of T-90s successful campaign in Syria. Any idea when Algeria ordered these...maybe it came with T-90s that were shipped to Algeria recently?


    Shtora countermeasures seen on Algerian T-90
    Jens Kastner (INS), London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

    A photograph released by Algeria's Ministry of National Defence (MDN) on 26 May confirms it is now operating T-90 tanks with the Shtora countermeasures system.

    The photograph shows Chief of the National People's Army Lieutenant General Ahmed Gaid Saleh inspecting the 26th Armoured Regiment during a visit to the 3rd Military Region, which covers the western provinces of Bechar and Tindouf on the Moroccan and Mauritanian borders.

    The Shtora can be identified by the presence of two infrared emitters fitted either side of the tank's main gun. These are designed to deceive the guidance systems on some types of anti-tank guided weapons (ATGWs). The Shtora was previously only seen on Russian tanks before October 2015, but some Syrian forces may now be operating a small number of T-90s fitted with the system.

    Russia delivered 185 T-90s to Algeria in 2006-08 and 187 in 2012-13, according to information submitted by Moscow to the UN Office of Disarmament Affairs.

    The Shtora may only be fitted to a more recent consignment of T-90s. Photographs circulated in December 2015 showing T-90s being unloaded in Oran from a roll-on/roll-off cargo ship that had sailed from Ust-Luga on Russia's Baltic Sea. The same ship made the same voyage a second time in March.

    No T-90s were seen in the Algerian television coverage of an exercise held earlier in Gen Saleh's five-day visit to the 3rd Military Region. This reportedly featured units from the 40th Mechanised Division, which were equipped with extensively upgraded T-55 tanks, upgraded BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles, D-30 and BM-21 Grad artillery, and air defence systems including ZSU-23-4 Shilka self-propelled anti-aircraft guns and the more advanced Pantsyr-S1.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Dima on Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:05 pm

    Ok...Shotra probably came along with the last shipment in Dec 2015. Shotra was not visible in those pics....  

    Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha
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    https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/678878279311298560



    From Algerian thread posted by berhoum in Feb 2016

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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  volna on Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:51 am

    Why not put the emitter outside the ERA cover just like the Oplot tank?
    I thought it's the better way.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:31 am

    volna wrote:Why not put the emitter outside the ERA cover just like the Oplot tank?
    I thought it's the better way.

    It is outside the EraCover...

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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  franco on Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:38 pm

    Uralvagonzavod "expects to soon conclude with the Russian Ministry of Defense contract to supply a new modification of the tank T-90, the CEO of the corporation Oleg Siyenko told the TV channel" Russia 24 ".

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3601820
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:59 am

    Modernization program "Прорыв-3" for T-90 tanks



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2117579.html


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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Benya on Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:19 am

    Some more info on this "Proviv-3" upgrade on T-90 tanks


    Russia eyes major upgrade for its fleet of T-90A main battle tanks

    Russia`s Ministry of Defense (MoD) is planning to upgrade its T-90A main battle tanks (MBT), according to a source in the MoD. "Russia`s Armed Forces operate several hundred of T-90A MBTs that have already revealed their high combat capacity," the source said.


    Russian T-90A main battle tank
    (Credit: Vitaly V. Kuzmin)

    "The MoD has no intention to phase out these tanks. The Ministry`s Main Directorate for Automotive and Armoured Vehicles (Russian acronym: GABTU, Glavnoye Avtobronetankovoe Upravlenie) has developed the program to upgrade the previously delivered T-90A tanks at the armour repairing plants. It is named Proriv-3 (Break-In 3). The enhanced T-90 tank will have a number of advantages over the basic model," the source added.

    The Proriv-3 variant of the T-90 MBT (also designated as T-90M, M stands for Upgraded, Modernizirovanny) was unveiled at the Army 2015 military-technical forum held outside Moscow in June 2015. The vehicle has a combat weight of 50 t, a crew of three tankers, a clearance of 450 mm, and an operational range of 550 km (with additional fuel tanks installed). The tank is armed with a 125 mm smoothbore gun-launcher and a 7.62 mm coaxial machinegun.

    T-90M also features a roof-mounted remote controlled weapon station (RCWS) armed with a 12.7 mm heavy machinegun. The model of the tank demonstrated at the Army 2015 defense show was up-armoured with Relikt (Relic) explosive reactive armour (ERA) developed by the NII Stali scientific-research institute (a subsidiary of the Tractor Plants Concern). The vehicle is powered by single 1,130-h.p. engine.

    According to the Military Balance 2016 report issued by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), Russia`s Land Forces operate 350 T-90/T-90A main battle tanks; 200 more T-90 tanks have been placed in store.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/september_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/russia_eyes_major_upgrade_for_its_fleet_of_t-90a_main_battle_tanks_21909163.html



    Well, nothing much to say, but it is good that they will upgrade T-90s, so that they can hold their places until Armata arrives.

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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:15 pm

    Pls make it be Burlak with maskirovka name pls.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:34 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Pls make it be Burlak with maskirovka name pls.

    Burlak as in the Burlak upgrade? I thought MOD rejected it? For that matter the T-90MS export demonstrated that they'll tolerate a small and modest turret bustle design, but nothing like the Black Eagle's monster-truck sized turret bustle that the Omsk Plant seems fond of. You wont see robust bustles unless the crew compartments are completely separated from the ammunition, so your more likely to see them on the Armata series than any modernized version of the T-90 series.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KiloGolf on Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:45 pm

    Benya wrote:According to the Military Balance 2016 report issued by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), Russia`s Land Forces operate 350 T-90/T-90A main battle tanks; 200 more T-90 tanks have been placed in store.

    Never caught that on the news. What prompted them in putting 200 of such modern MBTs in storage?  dunno
    First they decided to get rid of the T-80 and now this. Well it seems Russia will settle for a rather small MBT force after all.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  franco on Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:19 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Benya wrote:According to the Military Balance 2016 report issued by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), Russia`s Land Forces operate 350 T-90/T-90A main battle tanks; 200 more T-90 tanks have been placed in store.

    Never caught that on the news. What prompted them in putting 200 of such modern MBTs in storage?  dunno
    First they decided to get rid of the T-80 and now this. Well it seems Russia will settle for a rather small MBT force after all.

    They were the first built and have been in storage for 20 years. Apparently they were too sophisticated for conscript drivers and took a beating. You have to wonder if the reason that they have not been upgraded is that they are too damaged.

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