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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  ult on Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:05 am

    Zivo wrote:
    So the tank was parked in the red square and the gun was pointing towards the white vehicles on the right of frame?

    Yeah, it was on the road. Maybe a little bit further to the left.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:11 am

    ult wrote:Another confirmation that T-90 is fine. From the terrorist's video. It's gone.

    ...Now what will JihadJulian masturbate too?
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:58 am

    galicije83 wrote:What ARENA on T-90?


    Arena isnt operational in Russian army. Its just experimental APS system nothing more with 2-3 big problem and because this problem is abounded by Russians.

    Shtora-1 is useless against modern ATGM and against this TOW use by rebels. She is only good against older TOW with M220 luncher, made from 1970-1974. Next modernization of TOW and his luncher  M220A1 Shtora cant jammed.

    Why is that?

    Because IC blinker in TOW missile work on frequency 2-5.5 micrometer. An this is range of frequency that shtora cant jammed. Shtora have one option to change in his work jamming frequency but its to small chance to hit frequency of TOW missile blinker luncher and jammed him.

    Thsi is major problem for SHTORA and because of this problem he is abounded on new Russian modernization of T-90 tank. Only one good part of this system is laser warning system and this system we can see on T-90MS tanks.....

    Stop the drivel. Not only you don't have any understanding of this kind of material, but you don't even know what a "frequency" is.

    To say "... frequency 2-5.5 micrometer ..." is like saying "... mass 3-8 seconds ...".


    Stop!

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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  ult on Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:18 pm

    Some syrian guy just walks on T-90's barrel for no apparent reason...

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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:47 pm

    http://www.gazeta.ru/army/2016/02/29/8101481.shtml?utm_medium=exchange

    It's official BGM-71E3 cannot penetrate the front turret of T90A-1992. It was nice knowing you guys.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  kvs on Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:10 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:http://www.gazeta.ru/army/2016/02/29/8101481.shtml?utm_medium=exchange

    It's official BGM-71E3 cannot penetrate the front turret of T90A-1992. It was nice knowing you guys.

    So the clowns who thought that shipping the takfiris TOW systems would be like shipping "Stingers to the mujaheddin" were
    uninformed idiots. If they have any functional brains in Washington, there must be a lot of sleepless nights for them these
    days. All the their grand plans to take out Russia with a few NATO bases and the ABM "shield" are not going to pan out.
    They really have no idea what Russia's capabilities are.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:21 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:http://www.gazeta.ru/army/2016/02/29/8101481.shtml?utm_medium=exchange

    It's official BGM-71E3 cannot penetrate the front turret of T90A-1992. It was nice knowing you guys.

    Isn't it delicious lol? Antiquated Konkur's and Metis can penetrate Abroomz with no problem, but BGM-71E3's can't penetrate T-90 (circa 1992).

    EDIT: BTW the BGM-71E3's were likely designed and tested with East Germany T-72's with higher quality Soviet export Kontact-5 ERA. If that's the case it could put in to question other 'celebrated' anti-armor developments in NATO inventory.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Regular on Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:01 am

    Werewolf wrote:Crews of different weapons plattforms even Helicopters, often change settings or shut down Laser and Radar Warning Recievers due to the high amount of false alarms that can be created by the environments clutter in IR&Radar spectrum from own machines or tactics could be used to deplet tanks of their Smoke grenades, since they are automated, by emitting laser in the spectrum of Designators and LRF lazed on a tank and than quickly switching positions. False alarms are very bad for crews awarness of the battlefield and puts stress on them and confuses them of what is actually going on. Since the Shtora is controlling the turret movement when a source is lazing it, it would be quite annoying/stressful to the crew if the turret would turn around several times for false alarm. They probably shut it down due to that reason. Apache crews often have switched their RWR sensors to a different mode which suppresses clutter more effectivley but also makes it harder to pick up enemy bandwidth and might not get a notice when they are actually targeted.

    I agree with above, but tank was in engagement thus he had it on and hatches should be closed too.
    Also afaik Tow doesn't have to lase as it is wire guided.
    What I see is misused tank. PERFECTLY good tank used by incompetent crew
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Zivo on Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:22 am

    The good thing is, the TOW didn't defeat the T-90.

    The bad news is that the missile hit high, on the sloped part of the turret which HEAT has trouble with, and may have hit the gunner's sight.  So it's premature to say a T-90's armor can reliably defeat the TOW-2A.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:49 am

    kvs wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:http://www.gazeta.ru/army/2016/02/29/8101481.shtml?utm_medium=exchange

    It's official BGM-71E3 cannot penetrate the front turret of T90A-1992. It was nice knowing you guys.

    So the clowns who thought that shipping the takfiris TOW systems would be like shipping "Stingers to the mujaheddin" were
    uninformed idiots.  If they have any functional brains in Washington, there must be a lot of sleepless nights for them these
    days.  All the their grand plans to take out Russia with a few NATO bases and the ABM "shield" are not going to pan out.
    They really have no idea what Russia's capabilities are.


    Actually TOW's are far more dangerous than Stingers and have been sent in huge numbers. There's the inventory of à médium sized European country that has been fired in Syria. With at least 1200 TOWS used. As for this encounter, the deal is simple. Monkeys using à system like monkeys on a more protected target, gives à thug life meme.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Werewolf on Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:07 pm

    The information of T-90A and 1992 model is very incorrect.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:16 pm

    Werewolf wrote:The information of T-90A and 1992 model is very incorrect.

    Indeed. There's 12 years between the two.

    Got carried away with A's everywhere.

    Tow2A
    T90A

    etc. But that's a huge gaffe on my behalf, although, if the original T90 is immune to that spot, the 90A should be too.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:13 am

    Well talk about these Syrians making mistakes... they parked a tank in a position where only the heaviest armour could be targeted... if they had spotters deployed they might have been able to hit at least the launcher if not the crew...


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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:29 am

    GarryB wrote:Well talk about these Syrians making mistakes... they parked a tank in a position where only the heaviest armour could be targeted... if they had spotters deployed they might have been able to hit at least the launcher if not the crew...

    Actually at that distance they don't need spotters. It's well within Irtysh PID range. And the TC was firing on the general direction of the Moderats. It's just them using good materiel like crap.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:58 am

    yeah... like looking down a sniper scope at a target... why didn't they see it coming... how could the Muj or the Vietnamese have been so successful with their hit and run tactics... I mean the target must know it is coming so they can be ready all the time for that split second warning of an attack... how well trained were the US forces in Vietnam or Soviet forces in Afghanistan?


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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:52 am

    Looking forward to see a captured TOW on Russian TV.

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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:11 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Looking forward to see a captured TOW on Russian TV.

    Russians like Trophies Twisted Evil

    TOW tubes have been captured as late as this february. The CLU is something that will not be easy to capture as the teams usually don't have many tubes with them, thus expose themselves very little.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  franco on Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:43 pm

    Read this week that the T-90A's in Syria appear to be from the first batch produced and had previously been with the 20th Motor Rifle Brigade in Volgograd. Anyone else see anything about this? Certainly will reduce the number being upgraded to T-90AM.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Mike E on Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:56 pm

    franco wrote:Read this week that the T-90A's in Syria appear to be from the first batch produced and had previously been with the 20th Motor Rifle Brigade in Volgograd. Anyone else see anything about this? Certainly will reduce the number being upgraded to T-90AM.
    Interesting. This coincides with an earlier report that the earliest T-90A's would not be upgraded to M.

    Technically, as long as they are not destroyed...
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:52 am

    franco wrote:Read this week that the T-90A's in Syria appear to be from the first batch produced and had previously been with the 20th Motor Rifle Brigade in Volgograd. Anyone else see anything about this? Certainly will reduce the number being upgraded to T-90AM.

    Those aren't T90A's. It's original T90's.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:23 am

    Original 1992 T-90's will certainly not be upgraded A's however already have necessary changes to justify an upgrade to M's.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Dima on Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:02 pm

    Военный Советник ‏@miladvisor  2 hours ago
    Presumably photo of #SAA T-90 tank from video, which was hit by militants TOW



    From this angle nothing much is visible other than damaged 'red eye's and one K-5 tile missing which probably went active.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:43 pm

    Dima wrote:Военный Советник ‏@miladvisor  2 hours ago
    Presumably photo of #SAA T-90 tank from video, which was hit by militants TOW


    From this angle nothing much is visible other than damaged 'red eye's and one K-5 tile missing which probably went active.

    ult wrote:I think this was the T-90 model 1992. Number 21_4. Did anyone mention it?




    Seems like the very exact tank and indeed the old T-90 (1992) version which has armor configuration of T-72B.
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:59 pm

    T90 hype is off the roof! Nizhniy Tagil Akbaaar!
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    Re: T-90 Main Battle Tank

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:39 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:T90 hype is off the roof! Nizhniy Tagil Akbaaar!

    What was the TOW version TOW2A?

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