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    Syrian War: News #12

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    Post  eehnie Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:34 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:......

    The invassion of the Golan never has been accepted by Russia. Your pro-Israeli statements make not sense.

    Russia in it's current form did not exist back when Golan got occupied.

    It's really cure how you think that 50 year old local issue has any effect on Russian military strategy in current day war.

    Local issue? Joking? or liying...

    http://awdnews.com/top-news/putin-agrees-to-take-the-golan-from-israel,-and-give-it-to-syria

    Putin Agrees To End Israeli Occupation In Golan Heights, Return It Back To Syria

    21 April 2016

    Last year we wrote a post explaining what could cause Russia to invade Israel.

    At the time, Israel’s Prime Minister had flown to Washington, and was making a desperate bid to get Obama’s support for Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights.

    Only a few weeks earlier a discovery had been made that would serve to increase tensions on the question of sovereignty over the Golan – huge oil deposits were found on the Golan Heights, and verified by an Israeli company.

    Yet, weeks later, Benjamin Netanyahu returned to Israel having failed to secure Obamas support.

    It wasnt long before the United Nations – including Russia – condemned Israels “occupation” of the Golan Heights, and around the same time, Syria asked Russia to develop their oil resources.

    Then, over the course of the next 6 months, the Israeli leadership became very concerned about Russian activity near the Golan.

    Click here for the context of the story thus far.

    Now, Debkafile reports the following:

    “Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu will visit Moscow on Thursday, April 21 to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin and to launch the most important battle of his political career, and one of Israel’s most decisive contests of the last 10 years: the battle over the future of the Golan Heights.

    DEBKAfile’s intelligence sources and its sources in Moscow report exclusively that Israel’s top political leaders and military commanders were stunned and shocked last weekend when they found out that US President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin have agreed to support the return of the Golan to Syria. The two presidents gave their top diplomats, Secretary of State John Kerry and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, the green light to include such a clause in a proposal being drafted at the Geneva conference on ending the Syrian civil war.

    Israel captured the Golan from the Syrian army 49 years ago, during the Six-Day War in 1967 after the Syrian army invaded Israel.

    In 1981, during the tenure of then Prime Minister Menachem Begin, Israel passed a law defining the Golan as a territory under Israeli sovereignty. However, it did not state that the area belongs to Israel.

    While Israel was preparing for a diplomatic battle over the future of Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria, Obama and Putin decided to deal a diplomatic blow to Israel and Netanyahu’s government on an unexpected issue, the Golan.

    It is part of an endeavor by the two powers to use their diplomatic and military cooperation regarding Syria to impose agreements on neighboring countries, such as Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

    For example, Washington and Moscow are trying to impose an agreement regarding the granting of independence to Syrian Kurds, despite Ankara’s adamant opposition. The two presidents are also pressuring Riyadh and Amman to accept the continuation of Syrian President Bashar Assad’s rule, at least for the immediate future.

    DEBKAfile’s sources report that just like the other diplomatic or military steps initiated by Obama and Putin in Syria, such as those for Assad’s eventual removal from power, the two powers see a resolution of the Golan issue as a gradual process that may take a long time, perhaps even years. But as far as they are concerned, Israel will have to withdraw from the Golan at the end of that process.

    It should be noted that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not traveling to Washington to discuss the Golan issue with Obama. The frequent trips by the prime minister, senior officials and top IDF brass to Moscow in recent months show where the winds are blowing in the Middle East.

    However, Moscow is not Washington, and Israel has no lobby in the Russian capital defending its interests.

    It should be made very clear that the frequent trips by senior Israeli officials to Moscow have not created an Israeli policy that can influence Putin or other senior members of the Russian leadership. Putin has made occasional concessions to Israel on matters of minimal strategic importance, but on diplomatic and military steps regarding Syria and Iran he has shown little consideration of Jerusalem’s stance.

    It should also be noted that there has been no basis for the enthusiasm over the Russian intervention in Syria shown by Netanyahu, Israeli ministers and senior IDF officers.

    All of the calls by a number of Russia experts, mainly those of DEBKAfile, for extreme caution in ties with Putin have fallen on deaf ears among the political leadership in Jerusalem and the IDF command in Tel Aviv.

    Amid these developments, three regional actors are very pleased by Washington and Moscow’s agreement to demand Israeli withdrawal from the Golan: Syrian President Assad, the Iranian leadership in Tehran and Hizballah leader Hassan Nasrallah.

    Now, they do not need to risk a military confrontation with Israel over the Golan because Obama and Putin have essentially agreed to do the dirty work for them.

    https://politicalvelcraft.org/2016/04/23/russia-to-end-netanyahus-colonization-in-syrias-golan-heights/

    https://sputniknews.com/politics/201605161039687127-russia-israel-syria-golan/
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    Post  calm Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:51 pm

    FSA just blocked Syrian Army from reaching T2 pumping station in the Syrian Baydah.
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    With Southern Syrian rebels capturing al-Humaymah they now control a very substantial area of the desert.
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    Post  eehnie Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:56 pm


    And a link of this month, about the Golan, far more interesting than the pro-Israeli lies of PapaDragon

    https://worldinstruggle.blogspot.com.es/2017/04/new-world-war-to-start-israel-us-syria.html

    Golan Heights, Israel, Oil and Trump

    Column: Politics Region: Middle East Country: Syria

    Events are moving rapidly to a possible new war involving Israel, the United States, Syria and Russia. Were it to take place, I honestly hope not, it would be yet another stupid war over oil. Only this oil war somehow feels far more dangerous than the US war against Iraq or Libya or previous oil wars. It’s about the part of Syria named the Golan Heights.

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was one of the first heads of government to go to the United States to meet Donald Trump on February 16, in Trump’s new role as President. After the event major media focused on the themes of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, the Iran nuclear deal or a Palestine two-state solution.

    Virtually no mention was made by CNN or other US mainstream media of the most strategic point the two discussed. Netanyahu asked the US President to recognize the Israeli illegal occupation of Syria’s Golan Heights, something no US President has done since Israel openly declared it theirs in 1981.

    What has unfolded in the region since Netanyahu’s February 16 Trump talks gives reason to believe the US and Netanyahu’s Israel covertly agreed to a strategy to allow Trump to recognize Israel as the de facto occupier of Golan Heights amid what they will call the growing chaos of the Syrian “civil war.”

    Two weeks following Netanyahu’s Washington talks the Jerusalem Post wrote about the real issue discussed between the two leaders: “The biggest news to come out of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s visit to Washington is not what’s grabbing most headlines. Rather, it’s his decision to ask the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights.”

    The Israeli paper went on to argue, “the risk of returning the Golan Heights should be measured against the fact that Iran is actively setting up another forward command along Israel’s border with Syria…Capitalizing on Netanyahu’s idea will help the US limit Russia’s reemergence as a Middle East power broker after a 40-year absence.”

    Israel, in violation of the UN Charter, illegally occupied the Golan Heights after the Israeli army took it in the 1967 Six Days War. When Israel declared applicability of Israeli law in the territory and began Israeli settlements in a de facto act of annexation of Golan Heights in 1981, the UN Security Council passed UN Resolution §497, which declared that, “the Israeli decision to impose its laws, jurisdiction and administration in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights is null and void and without international legal effect.”

    Until now the official US Government position has been that the Israeli occupation of the Golan Heights is a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention’s prohibition on the acquisition of territory by force, and in contravention of the United Nations Security Council Resolution §242 passed in November, 1967 which mandates, “Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent (1967-w.e.) conflict.”

    Location of the Syria Golan Heights annexed by Israel in 1981 in violation of UN Resolution 242

    Some days after Netanyahu left Washington, in an OpEd in the Rupert Murdoch Wall Street Journal, Mark Dubowitz, Executive Director of the Washington pro-Israel think-tank, Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, argued that American recognition of Israel’s control of the Golan “would provide the Israeli government with a diplomatic win while helping the Trump administration signal to Russia and Iran that the US is charting a new course in Syria.” Dubowitz is an adviser to the Trump Administration on Iran and the Middle East. Other neo-conservative editorials echoed the theme. There is big change brewing in Washington and it looks ugly in terms of a possible US-backed war with Israel against Russia ally, Syria, over the Golan Heights. That immediately poses the question what Russia would do if it materializes.

    Tillerson’s Strange ‘Global Coalition’

    Against the backdrop of the Netanyahu talks on US recognition of Israel’s annexation of the Golan Heights, the ensuing events begin to make strategic sense, mad though they may be.

    On March 22 in Washington US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson convened a US Ministerial conference of something the Trump Administration calls the Global Coalition Working to Defeat ISIS. The State Department said that a combined 68 nations and organizations were present. Washington explicitly stated that the three most important states with deep interest in defeating ISIS in Syria and the three parties essential to any serious move to dislodge ISIS in Syria– Russia, Iran and Syria–were not welcome. When asked, Secretary of State Tillerson quipped, “they’re not part of the global coalition.” Curious indeed.

    In his remarks Tillerson declared that US policy of the Trump Administration will be to “the regional elimination of ISIS through military force. The military power of the coalition will remain where this fraudulent caliphate has existed in order to set the conditions for a full recovery from the tyranny of ISIS.” In other words, a US-led permanent occupation of the ISIS-controlled areas of Syria. That echoes a recent Pentagon RAND report calling for the permanent partition of Syria by Turkey, Syrian “opposition” and US.

    Israeli intelligence, in a recent annual evaluation, concluded that Hezbollah was not interested in sparking a war in 2017, but it warned of the danger of a “dynamic of escalation” leading to conflict. The Times of Israel also reports that the Netanyahu government has drawn up something codenamed Operation Safe Distance in which “up to 250,000 civilians cleared out of border communities if they come under major attack by…Hezbollah.” That “dynamic of escalation” appears to be precisely what Netanyahu’s IDF is engaged in in the Golan Heights.

    The next act in the clearly staged Netanyahu Golan Heights drama aimed at isolating Russia as defender of the Assad Syrian regime, was the illegal air strike by Israeli air force F-16 jets against a major site outside Damascus, Syria. Israel claimed the site was a Hezbollah weapons depot. Some hours alter on March 19 an Israeli drone hit a vehicle in the Golan Heights carrying Yasser al-Sayed who was killed on the spot. Sayed was reportedly a commander of a pro-regime militia and was close to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Bashar al-Assad responded to the Israeli strikes inside Syria by firing S-200 missiles at the Israeli air force planes.

    When an Israeli Arrow air defense missile intercepted the Syrian SA-5 missile fired against the invading Israeli Air Force jets as they left Syria, Israel’s Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman declared to the press, Israel “will not hesitate” to destroy Syria’s air defense systems if that country ever again targets IAF jet fighters. That of course would bring Russia, provider of the Syrian air defense systems, into the developing fray.

    DebkaFile.org, openly close to the Israeli military and Israeli intelligence, is claiming that Yasser al-Sayed was “on his way to join the Hezbollah forces” grouping at the Lebanon-Syria Golan Heights, under Iranian direction, preparing for a full war on Israel. DebkaFile writes, “Israel can be expected to intervene again to put a stop to this dangerous Russian-Iranian-Hezbollah ploy to exploit the turbulence in Syria for allowing Israel’s enemies to grab forward assault positions in Syria.”

    A Revealing Moshe Dayan admission

    Israel is carefully setting the propaganda stage that will now let it claim that a coalition of Russia, Iran, Syria and Hezbollah are preparing to forcefully retake the Syrian Golan Heights from the illegal Israeli occupiers. It’s a tried and tested Israeli IDF method of provoking an opponent, here Syria, then using the opponent’s predictable reaction to provocation as pretext for military strikes that escalate a confrontation they, the IDF, initiated in the first place.

    In an off-record discussion with an Israeli journalist in 1976 before his death, Israeli General Moshe Dayan, who gave the order in the 1967 War to take the Golan Heights, admitted that it was deliberate Israeli provocations into Syrian Golan lands that gave Israel the manufactured pretext to invade and occupy.

    Dayan told that to journalist Rami Tal, who kept his notes secret for 21 years until persuaded after Dayan’s death by Dayan’s daughter and others that it was important to publish the Dayan admission. The Israeli journalist wrote that when Tal claimed to Dayan that the Golan Heights were vital for Israeli security, Dayan interrupted him: “Never mind that. After all, I know how at least 80 percent of the clashes there started…It went this way: We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn’t shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance farther, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that’s how it was.”

    Today a similar provocation game is clearly in motion with provocative illegal Israeli jet strikes near Damascus and drone attacks in Golan Heights. The new element this time is the decided more Israel-friendly stance of the Trump Administration compared to that of Obama.

    But there is another element Dayan was not aware of in the Syrian Golan Heights. What no one is openly discussing is the treasure that Israel’s Netanyahu is lusting after in the Golan Heights–Oil, huge, recently-discovered reserves of black gold in the Golan Heights.

    Genie Energy and Golan Oil

    The Israeli subsidiary of a Newark, New Jersey oil company, Genie Energy, has been given permission to drill for oil on the Golan Heights.

    As I noted in a piece published on NEO in 2015, Genie Energy is no “penny stock” run-of-the-mill oil company. Its board of Advisors includes Dick Cheney. It includes former CIA head and chairman of the above-mentioned Foundation for Defense of Democracies, James Woolsey. It includes Jacob Lord Rothschild of the London banking dynasty and a former business partner of convicted Russian oil oligarch, Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Before his arrest Khodorkovsky secretly transferred his shares in Yukos Oil to Rothschild.

    Further this little-known Newark, New Jersey oil company board includes former US Energy Secretary Bill Richardson, pro-Israel media mogul and owner of Trump’s favorite Fox News TV, Rupert Murdoch. Also on the board are former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers and hedge fund billionaire Michael Steinhardt. Steinhardt, a philanthropic friend of Israel and of Marc Rich, is also a board member of Woolsey’s neo-con Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, which advises Trump among other things that it would be good for Washington to recognize Israel as legitimate owner of the Golan Heights lands taken by Dayan in the 1967 War.

    The plot thickens indeed.

    Genie Energy, tied to Netanyahu, to Trump, to a reportedly huge oil find in the illegally-occupied Syrian Golan Heights. Something very ugly is being brewed between Washington and Tel Aviv and Newark, New Jersey.

    Genie Energy in 2013 was granted exclusive oil and gas exploration rights to a 153-square mile radius in the southern part of the Golan Heights by the Netanyahu government.

    On October 8, 2015 only days after the surprise Russian announcement it had accepted the request of the elected Bashar al-Assad government to militarily intervene against ISIS, Al Qaeda and other terrorists in Syria, Genie Energy made a major announcement. Yuval Bartov, chief geologist from Genie Energy’s Israeli subsidiary, Afek Oil & Gas, told Israel’s Channel 2 TV that his company had found a major oil reservoir on the Golan Heights: “We’ve found an oil stratum 350 meters thick in the southern Golan Heights. On average worldwide, strata are 20 to 30 meters thick, and this is 10 times as large as that, so we are talking about significant quantities.”

    On January 10, 2017, Genie Energy Ltd. announced it was creating a new company, Atid Drilling Ltd., an on-shore drilling services venture based in Israel to drill for oil in the Golan Heights among other places. They will expand the drilling by Genie Energy’s subsidiary Afek Oil & Gas which since the October, 2015 announcement has completed five exploratory wells in Golan Heights.

    The creation of Atid Drilling by Genie confirms they are convinced based on the preliminary drilling results that there is something “big” in Golan. A month later, in mid-February soon after Trump is sworn in as President, Netanyahu flies to Washington to discuss US recognition of Israel’s annexation of Golan Heights.

    A few weeks later, Israel violates the Syrian airspace in an act of war, escalating tensions over the Golan Heights. Then on March 22, in an appearance before the US Senate Defense Appropriations Committee, Defense Secretary James Mattis called for Congress to formally authorize use of US military force against ISIS/DAESH in Syria.
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    Post  franco Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:13 pm

    http://tass.com/world/944035

    - number of populated localities that joined the reconciliation process has increased to 1,475

    - number of armed groups that pledged their commitment to accepting and fulfilling the conditions of a cessation of hostilities in line with the ceasefire totaling 143

    - number of populated localities liberated by Syrian government forces from armed units of Islamic State terrorist organization remains 236.

    - 4,629 square kilometers have been liberated

    - 65 armed groups agreed to stop fighting and to join the reconciliation process

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:01 pm

    calm wrote:FSA just blocked Syrian Army from reaching T2 pumping station in the Syrian Baydah.
    .......
    With Southern Syrian rebels capturing al-Humaymah they now control a very substantial area of the desert.
    .......

    Time for VKS to dedicate some attention to FSA in the south

    .........

    @eehnie

    Also, Russia gives zero shits about Golan and all related BS. That craphole will remain under Israeli control for at least another century.

    Do make effort not to clog the tread with unrelated off topic BS
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:38 pm

    franco wrote:http://tass.com/world/944035

    - number of populated localities that joined the reconciliation process has increased to 1,475

    - number of armed groups that pledged their commitment to accepting and fulfilling the conditions of a cessation of hostilities in line with the ceasefire totaling 143

    - number of populated localities liberated by Syrian government forces from armed units of Islamic State terrorist organization remains 236.

    - 4,629 square kilometers have been liberated

    - 65 armed groups agreed to stop fighting and to join the reconciliation process


    Stop lying. MOD ain't fooling anyone.
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    Post  eehnie Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:02 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:@eehnie

    Also, Russia gives zero shits about Golan and all related BS. That craphole will remain under Israeli control for at least another century.

    Do make effort not to clog the tread with unrelated off topic BS

    Lol. Exactly what makes the Golan Off Topic? Let us to know...
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:17 pm

    eehnie wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:@eehnie

    Also, Russia gives zero shits about Golan and all related BS. That craphole will remain under Israeli control for at least another century.

    Do make effort not to clog the tread with unrelated off topic BS

    Lol. Exactly what makes the Golan Off Topic? Let us to know...

    1960's were long ago.

    Elvis, Kennedy and Woodstock are deader than both disco and Syrian chances of getting Golan back combined, so stop being a clown and join us in the real world
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    Post  eehnie Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:53 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:@eehnie

    Also, Russia gives zero shits about Golan and all related BS. That craphole will remain under Israeli control for at least another century.

    Do make effort not to clog the tread with unrelated off topic BS

    Lol. Exactly what makes the Golan Off Topic? Let us to know...

    1960's were long ago.

    Elvis, Kennedy and Woodstock are deader than both disco and Syrian chances of getting Golan back combined, so stop being a clown and join us in the real world

    Lol, I asked just to laugh ) Despite what you say, the Golan is part of Syria, and Israel is a part of this war.

    The chance of Syria recovering all its territory including the Golan maybe low or not as low, but is perfectly in this topic.

    If you think Israel will keep all their abuses forever is because you are an ardent staunch Israel defender. Israel only does it at the hand of the US. You must be one of the few that thinks the power of the US to impose this will remain forever. This war will be long, because the parts want not to accept a defeat, but the days of abuses of Israel are numbered. For sure. By the decline of the US, or by the return to the power in the US of those that are not as inclined to defend the abuses of Israel.
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon May 01, 2017 12:00 am

    eehnie has a point, Golan does belong to Syria and Israel took it. Regardless, stop this pissing match and lets get on with the discussion of SAA kicking ass.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 01, 2017 1:57 pm

    Nice little ammo dump cooking off video at link


    24 Resistance Axis‏ @Syria_Hezb_Iran

    WATCH: Ammunition depot for Jaish al-Islam explodes in the village of babesqa, north #Idlib CS...
    Allegedly caused by #HTS / #Nusra

    https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/status/859035068261695489
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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 01, 2017 1:59 pm

    Skylight Syria‏ @SkylightSyria 6h6 hours ago

    New, ACCURATE map of rebel infighting in East Ghouta


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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 01, 2017 2:01 pm

    Here we see the difference between using the 'training' budget and the full Monte Laughing

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    Map: places where US and Russian troops have been deployed along #Rojava border with #Turkey:

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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 01, 2017 2:09 pm

    ruffthecrimedog‏ @ruffthecrimedog 5h5 hours ago
    Replying to @ruffthecrimedog

    As well as PG-9Vs, Ahrar al-Sham fighters in Qaboun also possess PG-7VT tandem-warhead munitions, capable of taking out ERA-protected tanks.


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    Post  calm Mon May 01, 2017 6:29 pm

    Kurds lol1
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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 01, 2017 6:34 pm

    calm wrote:Kurds lol1

    No need for a translation there Laughing


    Also really worth reading to get some background on the confusion that is Syria's army is Franco's new post https://www.russiadefence.net/t4461p25-syrian-arab-army-saa#193184
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    Post  ATLASCUB Mon May 01, 2017 6:46 pm

    eehnie wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:......

    The invassion of the Golan never has been accepted by Russia. Your pro-Israeli statements make not sense.

    Russia in it's current form did not exist back when Golan got occupied.

    It's really cure how you think that 50 year old local issue has any effect on Russian military strategy in current day war.

    Local issue? Joking? or liying...

    http://awdnews.com/top-news/putin-agrees-to-take-the-golan-from-israel,-and-give-it-to-syria

    Putin Agrees To End Israeli Occupation In Golan Heights, Return It Back To Syria

    21 April 2016

    Last year we wrote a post explaining what could cause Russia to invade Israel.

    At the time, Israel’s Prime Minister had flown to Washington, and was making a desperate bid to get Obama’s support for Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights.

    Only a few weeks earlier a discovery had been made that would serve to increase tensions on the question of sovereignty over the Golan – huge oil deposits were found on the Golan Heights, and verified by an Israeli company.

    Yet, weeks later, Benjamin Netanyahu returned to Israel having failed to secure Obamas support.

    It wasnt long before the United Nations – including Russia – condemned Israels “occupation” of the Golan Heights, and around the same time, Syria asked Russia to develop their oil resources.

    Then, over the course of the next 6 months, the Israeli leadership became very concerned about Russian activity near the Golan.

    Click here for the context of the story thus far.

    Now, Debkafile reports the following:

    “Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu will visit Moscow on Thursday, April 21 to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin and to launch the most important battle of his political career, and one of Israel’s most decisive contests of the last 10 years: the battle over the future of the Golan Heights.

    DEBKAfile’s intelligence sources and its sources in Moscow report exclusively that Israel’s top political leaders and military commanders were stunned and shocked last weekend when they found out that US President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin have agreed to support the return of the Golan to Syria. The two presidents gave their top diplomats, Secretary of State John Kerry and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, the green light to include such a clause in a proposal being drafted at the Geneva conference on ending the Syrian civil war.

    Israel captured the Golan from the Syrian army 49 years ago, during the Six-Day War in 1967 after the Syrian army invaded Israel.

    In 1981, during the tenure of then Prime Minister Menachem Begin, Israel passed a law defining the Golan as a territory under Israeli sovereignty. However, it did not state that the area belongs to Israel.

    While Israel was preparing for a diplomatic battle over the future of Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria, Obama and Putin decided to deal a diplomatic blow to Israel and Netanyahu’s government on an unexpected issue, the Golan.

    It is part of an endeavor by the two powers to use their diplomatic and military cooperation regarding Syria to impose agreements on neighboring countries, such as Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

    For example, Washington and Moscow are trying to impose an agreement regarding the granting of independence to Syrian Kurds, despite Ankara’s adamant opposition. The two presidents are also pressuring Riyadh and Amman to accept the continuation of Syrian President Bashar Assad’s rule, at least for the immediate future.

    DEBKAfile’s sources report that just like the other diplomatic or military steps initiated by Obama and Putin in Syria, such as those for Assad’s eventual removal from power, the two powers see a resolution of the Golan issue as a gradual process that may take a long time, perhaps even years. But as far as they are concerned, Israel will have to withdraw from the Golan at the end of that process.

    It should be noted that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not traveling to Washington to discuss the Golan issue with Obama. The frequent trips by the prime minister, senior officials and top IDF brass to Moscow in recent months show where the winds are blowing in the Middle East.

    However, Moscow is not Washington, and Israel has no lobby in the Russian capital defending its interests.

    It should be made very clear that the frequent trips by senior Israeli officials to Moscow have not created an Israeli policy that can influence Putin or other senior members of the Russian leadership. Putin has made occasional concessions to Israel on matters of minimal strategic importance, but on diplomatic and military steps regarding Syria and Iran he has shown little consideration of Jerusalem’s stance.

    It should also be noted that there has been no basis for the enthusiasm over the Russian intervention in Syria shown by Netanyahu, Israeli ministers and senior IDF officers.

    All of the calls by a number of Russia experts, mainly those of DEBKAfile, for extreme caution in ties with Putin have fallen on deaf ears among the political leadership in Jerusalem and the IDF command in Tel Aviv.

    Amid these developments, three regional actors are very pleased by Washington and Moscow’s agreement to demand Israeli withdrawal from the Golan: Syrian President Assad, the Iranian leadership in Tehran and Hizballah leader Hassan Nasrallah.

    Now, they do not need to risk a military confrontation with Israel over the Golan because Obama and Putin have essentially agreed to do the dirty work for them.

    https://politicalvelcraft.org/2016/04/23/russia-to-end-netanyahus-colonization-in-syrias-golan-heights/

    https://sputniknews.com/politics/201605161039687127-russia-israel-syria-golan/

    Obama is not Trump's Pentagon (which is in charge of foreign policy). That said, the idea that Russia has "friendly" relations with an apartheid regime, U.S puppet such as Israel is laughable. Russia's relation with Israel today is realpolitik at its finest. One day, Israel will have to be dealt with - or Israel itself will recognize that it needs to change (for the better) in order to exist on a map.


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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 01, 2017 6:48 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:

    Obama is not Trump's Pentagon (which is in charge of foreign policy).
    Your comment does not make sense.
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    Post  ATLASCUB Mon May 01, 2017 6:51 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:

    Obama is not Trump's Pentagon (which is in charge of foreign policy).
    Your comment does not make sense.

    What doesn't?
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    More...

    Syrian flag now also appeared in Ayn Daqnah east of Menagh.
    Locations of Ru/SAA presence in Kurdish controlled areas.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 01, 2017 8:40 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:

    Obama is not Trump's Pentagon (which is in charge of foreign policy).
    Your comment does not make sense.

    What doesn't?
    The whole sentence.
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    Post  ATLASCUB Mon May 01, 2017 10:02 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:

    Obama is not Trump's Pentagon (which is in charge of foreign policy).
    Your comment does not make sense.

    What doesn't?
    The whole sentence.
    Well if you don't elaborate we get nowhere.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue May 02, 2017 6:51 am

    ATLASCUB wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:

    Obama is not Trump's Pentagon (which is in charge of foreign policy).
    Your comment does not make sense.

    What doesn't?
    The whole sentence.
    Well if you don't elaborate we get nowhere.
    OK. Obama is a single person whilst the Pentagon is an organisation and 'is' is the present tense but Obama is in the past so the first part doesn't hang together.

    Did you mean 'Obama's Pentagon was not the same as Trump's Pentagon (which is now in charge of foreign policy)?
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    Post  JohninMK Tue May 02, 2017 7:08 am

    I wonder if they would be doing this in an area with a Kurdish population? Good way to win friends.

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