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    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:15 am

    Israel missed the right moment to overthrow Assad

    Amusing you think they had any right to do that.

    Ironic that Syria and Iran are evil because they support "freedom fighters" in Israel, yet the west and Israel and Saudi Arabia can support "freedom fighters" in Syria and Libya and Iran to over throw governments and generally fuck up stable working countries.
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    Post  Godric on Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:41 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:It was not a stupid idea to have a jewish state, it was a stupid idea to have a jewish state founded by western capitalists.

    There already was a Jewish state - its called Birobidzhan.  We need to relocate them all there and then build a fuckoff big wall around it.  Problem solved....

    Israel is a artificial state created in the 1920s by America putting influence on the British empire in BE controlled Palestine which only had less than 15,000 jews living in Palestine and and in the 1930s and 40s that number increased with transporting jews to Israel ... Israel today is doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to Jews in Poland they put them in ghettos .. i do not follow any religion ... but i cannot abide by Nazis and today Israel are acting like Nazis
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    Post  jhelb on Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:35 pm

    Godric wrote:

    Israel is a artificial state created in the 1920s by America putting influence on the British empire in BE controlled Palestine which only had less than 15,000 jews living in Palestine and and in the 1930s and 40s that number increased with transporting jews to Israel ... Israel today is doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to Jews in Poland they put them in ghettos .. i do not follow any religion ... but i cannot abide by Nazis and today Israel are acting like Nazis  

    Yes. But that's the story of the entire Middle East. Even Saudi Arabia the no 1 sponsor of global Islamic terrorism was artificially created.
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    Post  par far on Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:04 pm

    The best way to deal to deal with Israel is to support Hezbollah and others fighting against Israel(don't say this is not right, Israel supports groups against other countries).

    Support Israels enemies inside Israel and out side Israel.

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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:49 pm

    Azi wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    Azi wrote:To all jew haters...

    Imagine if you must live in the near/middle east region, what country would you prefere? Liberal Saudia Arabia, lovely Turkey, stable Syria or wealthy Egypt??? If you could live with same standard in all countries 99% of the jew haters would prefer to live in Israel! Why??? Because it's a tolerant, modern and western society!

    Jews are normal people, the only difference they have a big lobby in USA for Israel interest. I personal know a lot of Jews who are complete uninterested in Israel.

    And please...
    The people really think Palestinian and other Arabs are morale higher beings??? They did nothing wrong in history? If Arabs are really interested in Palestine and something like a Muslim brotherhood would exists, they could gift every Palestinian a house of pure gold! Gulf states has so much money and political influence, but instead they prefer to teach religious intolerance and build mosque all around the world.

    I know that Israel politic is very aggressive against Syria and is not ok! But remember that Syria and Israel never signed a peace treaty!!!!!! Theoretical Israel could bomb whole Damascus with being unpunished international, because both countries are since decades in war. Syria has not the rule of the bright shining honorable knight, because they initiate and lost the war.

    is not Ok?
    Israel is supporting ISIS and ALqaeda in Syria since 2011 ,to slaugther not just 6 million of jews as you all claim happened in world war too. but 20 millions of Syrians ,to kill them all of them by ISIS And ALqaeda. So if you find "not ok"
    what Israel is doing in Syria, the most inhuman act of terror against an entire civilization of 20 millions , then there is something really wrong with you buddy.
    Netanyahu deserves the electric chair and nothing less. is worse than Hitler. He helps Saudi Arabia to spread terrorism around the world ,that attack Europe too. So this is not just "not ok". but the highest crime ever done against any nation. Israel is literary pushing for the extermination of 20 millions of people. is you can sleep well at nights with that. then there is something really bad about you dude. And then Israel not happy with the Syrian war ,he is pushing for another one in IRAN. Not a big fan of muslins , Islam should be banned from the world. in my opinion. But what israel does is even worse. They are using terrorism as a weapon to target any nation ,that do not lick the shoes of Israel.
    Russia and Europe are victims of terrorism . and Israel support terrorism.
    Yes! Israel is supporting IS and AQ, the same with USA, France, Germany etc..

    But Jews in ww2 were industrial slaughtered by Nazis. IS and AQ are not Jews or Christians, they are radical Muslims from all around the world. So Muslims kills Muslims! If I sell you a weapon makes me not a murder, if you kill someone!

    Israel showed after Palmyra Bombing that they are supporting IS very open. It's dirty politic, because Israel tries to overthrow Assad to occupy Golan forever. They know that IS is not a threat for Israel now and in the next 30 years. It's very very dirty politic. But dirty politic of a administration makes not the whole population evil!!! This is something people like you will never understand! And Bibi (Netanyahu) is not so safe in saddle like you think, Israel is a democracy and has a lot of inner problems (economy), he needs a enemy to distract from real problems, but Israelis are not stupid. On other side it's good that Bibi and Putin have something like "friendship", so maybe some aggressive actions from Israel side are done by some hardcore IAF generals, who knows!?

    So @all let's calm down! Israel missed the right moment to overthrow Assad, all actions are symbolic and only to distract from inner problems. Syria and with it Russia has won the civil war. It will take months or years before guns will be quiet, but the decision is with Aleppo over!

    By the way...
    20 millions dead Iraqis and 20 millions dead Syrians, or pushing for that number??? What shit you are smoking? Check out the factbooks or wiki for exact data of population, background of wars and history!!

    Syria by the way was born by western countries and not by Arabs themselves!!!

    You're wasting your time with people convinced that Israel is the anti-Christ and that everyone else is always so morally upright and just.
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    Post  Godric on Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:14 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    Godric wrote:

    Israel is a artificial state created in the 1920s by America putting influence on the British empire in BE controlled Palestine which only had less than 15,000 jews living in Palestine and and in the 1930s and 40s that number increased with transporting jews to Israel ... Israel today is doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to Jews in Poland they put them in ghettos .. i do not follow any religion ... but i cannot abide by Nazis and today Israel are acting like Nazis  

    Yes. But that's the story of the entire Middle East. Even Saudi Arabia the no 1 sponsor of global Islamic terrorism was artificially created.


    yes many mistakes was made by the British Empire during that period it wanted borders to consist of straight lines instead of based on ethnicity
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    Post  nomadski on Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:40 pm

    What determines the shape and size and longevity of any nation state ? Given the geography of a place and prevalent human practice of tribalism , it becomes possible to predict outcomes . Exodus out of holy land , is nothing new . It has been going on for thousands of years . The holy land is at the cross Roads of nations . As a result it is subject to continuous invasions .

    Nations arise along coastlines . As they have different geography . Trading and fishing . Inland nations arise with different geography and economics . Inland nations then try to gain access to trading routes and ports . But these exist in coastal nations . Then there is conflict . Many examples of this . We are all prisoners of geography . We become free by our understanding this .


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    Post  GarryB on Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:35 am

    Normally... yes.

    In the middle east however the current countries were created by Britain and France dividing up known oil resources in the region after Germany was defeated in WWI.

    Look up the histories of the great royal families of the region... they go back thousands of years... oops... no they don't... they go back to the 1920s when the French and British picked sycophants to control the countries they just created...

    Pick an oppressed minority and put them in power and you can trust them to be loyal because of their memories of their treatment by their fellow countrymen when they were the minority... they owed Britain and France for their power so they did as they were told... generally.
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    Post  Regular on Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:29 pm

    Best thing to is to drown israel in political turmoil. Their country is very corrupt.
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    Post  coolieno99 on Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:19 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    You're wasting your time with people convinced that Israel is the anti-Christ and that everyone else is always so morally upright and just.

    Many believe Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and chief of staff, is the anti-Christ.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:05 am

    If many other nations can have their own states, then why shouldn't Jews have it too? Jews are, and consider themselves, sufficiently different from other nations to call themselves a nation, even in non-religious context.

    If you're willing to accept a ridiculous creation called Belgium (with two different nationalities that have nothing in common except religion and constantly quarrell with each other), the division of Germans into three countries, the division of Scandinavians (very much the same people) into three countries and accept Belarus (Belarussians are 100% Russians) as an entity distinct from Russia, then why shouldn't you accept Israel?
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:35 am

    Why should any religion have its own country?

    More importantly why would any religious country sign agreements with the people living on the land they are claiming and then build walls and settlements on land that belongs to the people they are denying statehood to?

    If the Jews can have Israel why can't the Palestinians have Palestine?

    Can scientologists claim their people came from what is now New York and go in there an kick out the locals and steal their land and create a new country?

    AFAIK there has never been a country called Israel... some jews just claimed to have lived in that area 2000 years ago before being booted out.

    The Native Americans have more claim to the land of the US than Jews to Israel.

    Israel is created in violence... and that is the future they can expect. Non zionist Jews accept that... even if a magic wand murdered all the current occupants of Israel that are not pro zion jews tonight this would not make the world safe for jews world wide. The fact that there are no magic wands and that instead it is rifle barrels and tank guns and bombs from aircraft doing the murdering makes the world even less safe for jews... but you can't tell them that.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:Why should any religion have its own country?
    What "religion"? Israel claims to be a country of Jews, defined both religiously and non-religiously. You can be an atheist and still be an Israeli Jew.
    GarryB wrote:If the Jews can have Israel why can't the Palestinians have Palestine?
    If Palestinians manage to somehow get possession and de facto rule of Israel, they could and I would have no problems accepting them.
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    Jews and Judea are mentioned in Roman sources. If you deny this, you're questioning validity of entire Roman historiography.
    GarryB wrote:The Native Americans have more claim to the land of the US than Jews to Israel.
    Not anymore.

    Change of borders makes a big fuss now. Just 100 years ago it wasn't a big deal.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:23 am

    What "religion"? Israel claims to be a country of Jews, defined both religiously and non-religiously. You can be an atheist and still be an Israeli Jew.

    Jewish is religion not race. Claiming to be the one chosen people unites them in words and religion but not race.

    Or are you suggesting a Somali jew that is totally black is the same race as a German jew that is white.

    If Palestinians manage to somehow get possession and de facto rule of Israel, they could and I would have no problems accepting them.

    Israel was created with violence and murder, so how can you not accept the Palestinians trying to create their own state in the same place with the same methods?

    Jews and Judea are mentioned in Roman sources. If you deny this, you're questioning validity of entire Roman historiography.

    But palestine appears on maps of the region right up until just after WWI. Roman history does not mention a functioning country called Israel... it just mentions jews living in the region... by the same token mention of jews living at the same time in what is now England does not justify a Jewish enclave in London called Israel 2.

    Not anymore.

    Why. The Jews claimed to have lived in the area of Israel 2,000 years ago... less than a quarter of that time has passed since the native Americans were forced to give up their land.

    But lets not make this about the US... any ethnic group being forced off their land by a more powerful aggressor would suffice...

    Change of borders makes a big fuss now. Just 100 years ago it wasn't a big deal.

    Bullshit.

    Change of borders is easy... it just has to be in the interests of the west and it is OK.

    ie Kosovo becomes Albanian shithole = OK because Serbs are friends with the enemy. Georgia tries to take South Ossetia by force and that is OK because Georgia is the wests last line of defence against an expanding Russia.
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    Post  Werewolf on Tue May 09, 2017 11:51 pm

    I see the old sentiments are pushed around here.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:00 am

    Interesting


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