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    Post  Admin Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:16 pm

    State tests are coming

    The company "Sukhoi" completes preliminary testing of a new multipurpose fighter Su-35 and plans this fall to provide an aircraft for the state joint tests (ICG). Su-35 as a promising Complex Frontal Aviation (PAK FA), will ensure the safety of the sky of Russia in the new century.

    According to Interfax-AVN director of the Su-35, the chief designer of the Sukhoi Design Bureau Igor Demin, bringing the aircraft to the ICG can be expected in September or October. According to him, now in flight testing involved two Su-35 fighter. At the stage of ICG their number will be increased to six. The third car will take off in the fourth quarter of this year.

    As Igor Demin, a program of flight tests of the Su-35 provides for the implementation of a fairly large number of flights. This is due to the fact that this machine set a lot of new systems and components, apply the most modern aircraft weapon.

    Earlier it was reported that during the preliminary tests multi-purpose fighter Su-35 is fully confirmed the declared characteristics. In particular, it has been a top speed at sea level 1.400 km / h, at a height - 2.500 km / h, ceiling - 19 thousand meters range target detection in the "air - air - more than 400 km, which is significantly higher than figure standing in the arsenal of aircraft.

    Su-35 along with promising aviation complex tactical aircraft (PAK FA) will largely determine the level of Russia's defense capability in the foreseeable future. In accordance with a prisoner in the 2009 state contract to supply the Ministry of Defence in 2015, 48 Su-35 factory Sukhoi in Komsomolsk-on-Amur serial production of fighter aircraft, the first of which will be commissioned later this year. Production deliveries will start in 2011.

    Technology embodied in the Su-35 program, will allow a relatively short period of time to conduct a partial upgrade of the air forces of the country and quickly master the technique of the next generation.

    Company Sukhoi is also negotiating with foreign clients interested in re-equipping its air force. Production deliveries of Su-35 for export are planned for 2012.

    Su-35 - deeply modernized super maneuverable multifunctional fighter generation "4 + +". It uses a fifth-generation technology, providing superiority fighter class.

    Distinctive features of the aircraft are new avionics based on digital information management system that integrates avionics systems, new radar station (radar) with a phased array with long-range detection of air targets with an increased number of simultaneously tracked and fired targets. The airplane is the new engines with increased thrust and turning thrust vector.

    Su-35 has the broad nomenclature of weapons large, medium and short range. It can be operated air attack antiRLS, antikorabl general purpose, adjustable, bombs, and unguided weapons.

    Radar visibility fighter planes compared with the fourth generation is reduced by several times due to an electrically conductive coating cockpit, causing the radio absorbing coatings and reduced the number of speakers sensors. Resource aircraft - 6 thousand flight hours, lifetime - 30 years of operation, the designated resource engines with controlled nozzle - 4 thousand hours.

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    Post  Austin Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:24 am

    Any idea on the RCS reduction they managed to achieve with Su-35 ?

    The Su-35 are already supercruising , they have yet to release the data of the aircraft managed to supercruise with useful load.
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    Post  SerbNationalist Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:49 pm

    I wanted to see some of the specs for SU-35BM and when I looked at it on wiki(wasn't going for serious things, just basics) I saw that price is around 40 mil. $, is that true??? If it is than it is the best airplane ever built because it is an extremely powerful aircraft with a low price, wich is just the best offer ever, plus it's a Su!!! XD

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-35BM
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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:39 am

    Wouldn't trust the Wiki estimate till aircraft have been sold.

    Once they are selling them we will still see a variation in cost because some will just be aircraft while other sales might be to customers that don't already operate Flankers so they will need infrastructure and training and logistics etc etc.
    And of course the weapons it uses will not be cheap with new digital models of the R-77 and R-73 and later weapons.
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    Post  Aegean Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:06 pm

    GarryB wrote:Wouldn't trust the Wiki estimate till aircraft have been sold.

    Once they are selling them we will still see a variation in cost because some will just be aircraft while other sales might be to customers that don't already operate Flankers so they will need infrastructure and training and logistics etc etc.
    And of course the weapons it uses will not be cheap with new digital models of the R-77 and R-73 and later weapons.

    The plane (Su-35S/BM) was recently offered to Greece ( I know,I know crisis and all, but defence budgets must be planned, there is no nation without defence) for $50m each +weapons ... so the price sounds right..

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    Post  IronsightSniper Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:47 pm

    I've heard forum nerds from a bunch of other forums estimate it's RCS to be about 1 m^2 - 0.1 m^2 so it's gonna be a tougher aircraft to detect, which is good because then the Su-35 can get into mad dog ranges where it reigns supreme.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:19 am

    The plane (Su-35S/BM) was recently offered to Greece ( I know,I know crisis and all, but defence budgets must be planned, there is no nation without defence) for $50m each +weapons ... so the price sounds right..

    That is quite frankly astounding considering the Aussies paid something like double that for their Super Hornets.

    Sure the SH is a sophisticated aircraft with all the bobs and whistles but there are a lot of people not very happy about it... like Carlos Kopp.

    If they can keep it to that price they should be able to afford quite a few of them.
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    Post  Viktor Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:15 pm

    Im curious what are production capabilities of Su-35 per year? ... Indonesia recently announced it wants 180 Su fighters till 2020 so I guess large portion of it will be Su-35, if they menage to find money for it? (Carlo Copp predictions are coming true) Twisted Evil
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    Post  GarryB Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:00 am

    The various factories that make Flankers are reasonably healthy through exports so I would think their capacity for production would be pretty good.

    The Su-35 is going through some minor testing and will probably start production in 2011 for the Russian AF, most of the new technologies have been in testing for some time and would not need too much time in the air.

    With firm orders with money down I am sure they could ramp up production pretty quickly.
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    Post  IronsightSniper Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:05 am

    Yeah, and there has been talk about a 2 stage long range high maneuverability missile, would pretty much end Western Air Supremacy.
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    Post  Austin Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:27 pm

    Sukhoi’s Su-35S - not your father’s Flanker
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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:12 am

    Interesting article Austin, thanks for posting.

    Though the suggestion that the F-22 and the Su-35S are the only aircraft designed to fly at supersonic speeds as a normal part of their operational flight regime is a little inaccurate.
    The Hustler bomber, the SR-71, the Mig-25, the Mig-31... the Concord and Tu-144.

    I think he means to do so without afterburner on all the time and I think he emphasises it so much because the F-35 can't super cruise and he has a bee in his bonnet about the F-35.
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    Post  Austin Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:36 am

    He forgot the Eurofighter that can supercruise without afterburner at M 1.3 with useful load.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:23 pm

    Russian Air Force to receive first Su-35 by yearend - Sukhoi

    The Russian Defense Ministry will receive its first Su-35 fighter plane by the end of the year, Russia's Sukhoi Aircraft Design Bureau said on Monday.

    The first modernized Su-35 was presented at the 2007 MAKS air show outside Moscow. The Russian Defense Ministry signed a deal with Sukhoi on the purchase of 48 modernized Su-35 jets in 2009.

    Sukhoi is also holding talks with customers in South-East Asia, the Middle East and South America on Su-35 sales.

    The Su-35 Flanker-E, a modification of the Su-27, is a heavy class, long-range, multi-role fighter, whose technical characteristics can be compared with those of fifth-generation jets.

    MOSCOW, October 11 (RIA Novosti)

    http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20101011/160909205.html

    Well they aren't mucking around are they?
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    Post  Austin Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:30 am

    The SuperFlanker Su-35 by Jon Lake (via AndyB )

    http://ifile.it/na415mh/SU35.zip
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    Post  Kysusha Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:16 pm

    The cost of waging war is the limiting factor in any future conflict. Simply, the cost of materiel is becoming prohibitive and unless a war can be waged and won in a very short time-frame, no country can stand a protected war.

    The country that can produce cheap airframes and many of them, and load them with high-end electronics, will have the upper hand.


    Same with tanks – look at Britain – Challenger II, arguably the best tank in the world, but so expensive they can’t continue to produce it or maintain up-keep of existing. Admittedly, it has withstood countless hits in Iraq, mostly from low grade ordinance – [but has with-stood hits from Milan]. A country that spent some time and effort in developing a round to defeat the Challenger and then put that out in many lesser value tanks – would simply win [Rather like the T34 did to Germany].


    The race for high end gear is in it’s self, self defeating. You will always have to put a man on the ground to hold the ground. It’s an old maxim, but a true one.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:26 am

    Indeed there will be a lot more air forces around the world able to afford an Su-35S than a T-50. For many roles the Su-35S would be better from the standpoint that it can carry more weapons and probably also a greater variety of weapons too.

    In a world where good enough is the bests greatest enemy, often good enough is rather more successful.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:11 am

    Have read elsewhere on the Internet that the USAF has plans for the F-15 that are fairly similar to Russian plans for the Su-35.

    They want to use the larger radar aperture and the much larger number of AAMs against stealth aircraft that normally have a more restricted nose size and carrying capacity for weapons being restricted by internal carriage requirements.

    Of course they have not declared anything about wing leading edge long band radar as will be fitted to the Su-35 and the T-50... but it is an interesting admission that numbers of aircraft and missiles is useful too.
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    Post  medo Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:25 pm

    Any news, when will be the first Su-35 for air force build? It was said, that air force will receive the first Su-35S to the end of 2010. Now we are in 2011.
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    Post  IronsightSniper Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:29 pm

    I did read something about the First Production Su-35 off of another forum the other day, I'll find that piece later.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:46 am

    Sukhoi have this on their website:

    Sukhoi completed general units’ assembly of the first production Su-35S

    Moscow, October 11. Sukhoi Company completed general units’ assembly of the first production Su-35S fighter. The state contract with the Russian Defense Ministry on the delivery of 48 multifunctional super maneuverable Su-35 fighter jets was signed at the 2009 MAKS air show. The works on the contract started in autumn 2009 at the KnAAPO facility of the Sukhoi holding in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

    At the present time the first production Su-35S is at the final assembly shop of the KnAAPO. The preparations are underway for its flight testing. The first production Su-35S will be delivered to the Russian Ministry of Defense by the end of the year.

    Nothing newer about the Su-35... but some nice videos to download.

    http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/news/company/

    for the news, click the gallery link to get to the vids and pics.
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    Post  ahmedfire Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:58 pm

    can russians used L band radar instead of irbis E on sukhoi as it is effective against vlo designs ??
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    Post  Austin Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:14 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:can russians used L band radar instead of irbis E on sukhoi as it is effective against vlo designs ??

    Most certainly L Band Radar are better to detect LO targets compared to X band Irbis-E , they can use L band on wings slats to scan and possibly track LO targets or use it just as EW against LO targets but the aperture is small and power output is low of those L band slats hence limited in range and scan angles

    Irbis-E on the other hand has tremendous power output and scan angles to detect long range targets
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    Post  medo Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:12 pm

    can russians used L band radar instead of irbis E on sukhoi as it is effective against vlo designs ??

    Su-35 have X band and L band radars and IRST. I'm sure in domestic variant computers and software enable use of any of those three systems independently as well as using all three together to get a clearer picture of air space comparing pictures from all three sources. It also have data link to get picture from other sources like AWACS, groung radars, etc. After all, its ESM equipment with RWR, IRWR, etc could also detect and locate any emissions from enemy plane. So, Su-35 is not that weak against VLO planes.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:57 pm

    Most radars are used more for listening than transmitting these days.

    A formation of 4 or 8 Su-35s will likely have one aircraft transmitting occasionally to search for targets and passing information to other aircraft in the flight and to HQ.

    A widely spread flight of 8 aircraft could use passive L band sensors to determine the position and range of an emitting target simply though triangulation... the way a submarine can find noisy propellers without having to ping and give its own position away.

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