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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  Mike E on Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:47 pm

    Says right there in the article, Soyuz and Proton.

    The first one will be launched by a Soyuz-2.1b.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  max steel on Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:39 pm

    Construction of an early-warning radar in Vorkuta

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    Russian Military Orders Missile Early Warning Satellites

    Post  max steel on Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:57 pm

    First launch of the Tundra early-warning satellite




    A Russian Soyuz-2.1b carrier rocket laden with the newest defense satellite was launched from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome in the country’s northwest, the Russian Defense Ministry said Tuesday.


    On November 17, 2015 at 09:34 MSK (06:34 UTC), the Air and Space Forces successfully launched a Soyuz-2.1b launcher from the launch pad No. 4 of the launch complex No. 43 of the Plesetsk site. According to the official statement, the launcher carried "a new-generation satellite for the ministry of defense." The satellite is being delivered to the orbit by a Fregat booster.

    The satellite is believed to be the first Tundra spacecraft of the new early-warning system, known as EKS. The satellite was earlier identified as 14F142. The program is several years behind the schedule - the first public statement about the program suggested that the first launch were to take place in 2009. It was reported that Tundra satellites will be deployed in highly-elliptical orbits, but the constellation might include geostationary satellites as well.

    Tundra satellites and the EKS system are expected to replace satellites of the old US-KS and US-KMO systems. Russia lost all its early warning satellites in the spring of 2014. thumbsup




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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  franco on Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:33 pm

    Second Early Warning Satellite to go up in 2016;
    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160103/1032627115/russia-early-warning.html

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:47 pm

    Eagle Eye: Russia Testing New Generation Missile Warning Satellite

    Russia will orbit a second new generation satellite in 2016 to keep a closer eye on ballistic missile launches anywhere in the world, the Defense Ministry said, Zvezda TV channel reported.

    The EKS-1 – the first such satellite of the unified space-based ballistic missile warning system launched late last year — is currently undergoing trials in orbit by the Russian Aerospace Defense Forces.

    The new generation satellites will ensure much quicker identification of ballistic missile launches by detecting their engines’ exhaust plume in infrared light.

    The first early warning ground-based station for the new network has been built in the Altay region and it has passed state trials.

    More such stations will be built also in the Leningrad, Irkutsk, Kaliningrad and Krasnodar regions.

    Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced in October last year that Russia had started the development of a new unified network to detect ballistic missile launches, which would replace the Soviet-made ballistic missile early warning systems and feature new-generation satellites, new ground-based space monitoring stations and advanced computer networks.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160108/1032829641/russia-satellites-missiles-warning.html#ixzz3wf0blfem


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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  max steel on Thu May 19, 2016 9:45 pm

    New GEO early warning satellite is said not to be ready


    Interfax quotes an industry source as saying that the new-generation geostationary early-warning satellite will not be ready for launch in 2016. According to the report, the satellite is still in production and the manufacturers (RKK Energiya is the lead contractor) are awaiting results of the tests of the first satellite of the EKS system. The satellite, Cosmos-2510, was launched into highly-elliptical orbit in November 2015. According to the Interfax source, two HEO satellites have been manufactured so far, one of them is in orbit.

    The Interfax report appeared shortly after other reports suggested that the new early-warning satellite will be launched by a heavy Angara-A5 launcher by the end of 2016. The launcher made its maiden flight (with a satellite mockup) in November 2015. The 2016 Angara-A5 launch would probably still take place, but with a different satellite, Angola's Angosat. The GEO EKS launch, which will probably use Angara-A5 as well, appears to be moved to at least 2017.

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    warning system (EWS)

    Post  Austin on Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:43 pm

    Russian missile warning system filled up dozens of new satellites by 2020

    http://militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=436107

    Moscow. 20th of December. Interfax-AVN - About 10 new spacecraft plans to launch video conferencing Russian Federation up to 2020 within the framework of improving the missile warning system, the chief of the General Staff - First Deputy Commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces, Lieutenant-General Paul Kurachenko.

    "To improve the warning system (EWS) is planned to build five high prefabrication radar until 2020" Voronezh ", and the commissioning of about 10 new spacecraft single space launch detection systems and command and control," - he said Tuesday on scientific and technical conference in Moscow.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  franco on Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:43 pm

    Interfax 13:43
    Russian missile early warning spacecraft undergoing development flight tests

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  Singular_Transform on Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:53 pm

    Seems like they mastering the 90nm semiconductor fabs.
    Or Chinese components, who knows.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:05 pm

    They have their own. This has been already mentioned in the tech thread. Please review before making more statements.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  kvs on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:48 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:Seems like they mastering the 90nm semiconductor fabs.
    Or Chinese components, who knows.

    Mikron has developed an in-house 65 nm process. 90 nm is old news.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  Singular_Transform on Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:35 am

    miketheterrible wrote:They have their own. This has been already mentioned in the tech thread. Please review before making more statements.

    We don't know.

    I think it is a mixture of both.

    I don't think anyone at the micron chasing any smaller pattern than 90nm for space apps and low volume ICs.

    By decreasing the size the cost of designing the chip for the manufacturing process exponentially increase, it next to nothing on 90nm, and 700 million $ on 11 nm.

    In the space the speed doesn't matter that much , the downstream bandwidth is the limitation.

    If they can manufacture all ICs on 90 nm then there can be the next step to smaller patterns.

    But anyway, there are informations about russian request to use CCDs on the open sky aircrafts, and now numerous information about new satellite projects.

    Means either they found a new source of radhard ICs, or the can manufacture them.


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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:16 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:They have their own. This has been already mentioned in the tech thread. Please review before making more statements.

    We don't know.

    I think it is a mixture of both.

    I don't think anyone at the micron chasing any smaller pattern than 90nm for space apps and low volume ICs.

    By decreasing the size the cost of designing the chip for the manufacturing process exponentially increase, it next to nothing on 90nm, and 700 million $ on 11 nm.

    In the space the speed doesn't matter that much , the downstream bandwidth is the limitation.

    If they can manufacture all ICs on 90 nm then there can be the next step to smaller patterns.

    But anyway, there are informations about russian request to use CCDs on the open sky aircrafts, and now numerous information about new satellite projects.

    Means either they found a new source of radhard ICs, or the can manufacture them.


    Read post again, and then go do your due diligence.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  Singular_Transform on Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:06 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:

    Read post again, and then go do your due diligence.

    ?
    There is no available data about Russian radhard components/capability.

    Few article from 2014 aboutthat russia wants to sell rd-180 to China for radhard electronics, few more about the installation of the 90nm fab, and one about export approval withdraw from a S company to ship machine for MRAM manufacturing to Russia .

    and now the news about new satellites.

    If you have any more data or Russian source please share it. Smile

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:20 pm

    https://ria.ru/science/20160705/1458752482.html#ixzz4DWDtwgCS

    About selling spaced based electronics to India. The machines to make mean has been in Russia since 2013. As well, they already make 90nm tech at 300mm and 65nm at 200mm. Angstrom T makes it and has been making Elbrus 2C+ at the site for military purposes. Same with space based chips from elvees and Micran.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  Singular_Transform on Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:16 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:https://ria.ru/science/20160705/1458752482.html#ixzz4DWDtwgCS

    About selling spaced based electronics to India. The machines to make mean has been in Russia since 2013. As well, they already make 90nm tech at 300mm and 65nm at 200mm. Angstrom T makes it and has been making Elbrus 2C+ at the site for military purposes. Same with space based chips from elvees and Micran.

    The question is not the capability to make space grade ICs ( they always been able since su time) but to make 90nm high density sdrams ,nvrams , cpus , bus controllers and so on.
    There is little( 0 ) direct information about that .

    Remark : one space graded CPU cost around 10000$. So 1-20 $/pcs probably indicate simple logical circuits or analogue power controls and so on.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:50 pm

    You are aware that for a transistor to be used in radar systems need shielding. Elbrus 2C+ is shielded.

    Anyway, it isn't like I need to convince you, when you are perfectly capable of checking Rostec.ru and other sites. Even some members here posted the news about transistors an , alike made by Russia for space.

    Also. Check out elvees and mikran. Both make space base d IC. Angstrom T makes 90nm chips and is the one offering space based to India. I think you're smart enough to put two and two together. Wink

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  kvs on Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:07 pm

    It's like with climate change deniers on this board. The same retarded tropes have to be debunked over and over. None of the
    "skeptics" does any actual research before coming here and pissing their ignorance.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  Singular_Transform on Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:48 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:You are aware that for a transistor to be used in radar systems need shielding. Elbrus 2C+ is shielded.

    Anyway, it isn't like I need to convince you, when you are perfectly capable of checking Rostec.ru and other sites. Even some members here posted the news about transistors an , alike made by Russia for space.

    Also. Check out elvees and mikran. Both make space base d IC. Angstrom T makes 90nm chips and is the one offering space based to India. I think you're smart enough to put two and two together. Wink

    You can't make effective shielding.
    To have the similar lifetime like a radhard ic you need 10 cm of lead.At least.

    there is same info about 180nm radhard russian components here:
    http://zeptobars.com/en/read/open-microchip-asic-what-inside-II-msp430-pic-z80

    But seems like the investment that Ru started after the georgian war getting close to make results, if they can make satelites.

    Prior of 2014 75% of tge radhard electronics in satelites come from us/eu.

    That was the reason why they bined the glonass k2.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS-K2

    So, if russia planning new military satelites THEN they must be comfortable with availability of radhard high speed components.
    Either from china or from domestic sources.

    But there is no info about MRAM , or the new 90nm plants.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  Rmf on Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:06 am

    for space you dont want transistors so close anyway 90 nm is fine size limit , also voltages are lower ,and there is lots of overvoltage protection inside and errorcheck software +  redundancy. for conventional chips you have to use hermeticaly sealed climate controlled containers

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:33 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:You are aware that for a transistor to be used in radar systems need shielding. Elbrus 2C+ is shielded.

    Anyway, it isn't like I need to convince you, when you are perfectly capable of checking Rostec.ru and other sites. Even some members here posted the news about transistors an , alike made by Russia for space.

    Also. Check out elvees and mikran. Both make space base d IC. Angstrom T makes 90nm chips and is the one offering space based to India. I think you're smart enough to put two and two together. Wink

    You can't make effective shielding.
    To have the similar lifetime like a radhard ic you need 10 cm of lead.At least.

    there is same info about 180nm radhard russian components here:
    http://zeptobars.com/en/read/open-microchip-asic-what-inside-II-msp430-pic-z80

    But seems like the investment that Ru started after the georgian war getting close to make results, if they can make satelites.

    Prior of 2014 75% of tge radhard electronics in satelites come from us/eu.

    That was the reason why they bined the glonass k2.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS-K2

    So, if russia planning new military satelites THEN they  must be comfortable with availability of radhard high speed components.
    Either from china or from domestic sources.

    But there is no info about MRAM , or the new 90nm plants.

    You are not going to find much on it because you can't find much on anything Russian material related in any kind of industry, especially when using joogle. For instance, I learned a lot from just using other Russian sites that use videos from tv programs that talked about it. Not long ago they did one on Angstrom T and their productions. Just an example.

    I cant name a Russian toothpaste brand but I did find some when I was at a Russian store in Canada here. Yet I cant find it when trying to look it up.

    Piece of advice: Russian's are not well known for marketing. Something they really need to work on.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:48 am

    Found what you were looking for:

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/55477/

    although, topology in 180nm rather than 90nm.  As for 90nm production:

    http://www.angstrem.ru/manufacture/centr-mikroelektroniki
    http://www.angstrem-t.com/technology/90/

    elvees multicore:
    http://multicore.ru
    http://multicore.ru/index.php?id=1360&utm_source=b1288pl1u&utm_medium=top&utm_campaign=banner

    Module
    http://www.module.ru/catalog/space/

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  Singular_Transform on Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:57 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Found what you were looking for:

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/55477/

    although, topology in 180nm rather than 90nm.  As for 90nm production:

    http://www.angstrem.ru/manufacture/centr-mikroelektroniki
    http://www.angstrem-t.com/technology/90/

    elvees multicore:
    http://multicore.ru
    http://multicore.ru/index.php?id=1360&utm_source=b1288pl1u&utm_medium=top&utm_campaign=banner

    Module
    http://www.module.ru/catalog/space/

    This is old stuff.

    Seems like it is good for nuclear warheads / simple satelite control systems.

    The interesting is radhard big CCDs,high speed CCD interfaces, memorys,NVrams, flahs rams, poer transistors and high speed commuiaction circuits.


    For example an early warning sateliet they need radhard cooled infra red sensors, high speed data and radio circuits, from the new 90/65nm plant.


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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  Singular_Transform on Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:19 pm

    It is a bit interesting.

    I think they work like madman in the new fabs since 2014 to make and test new radhard dies for satelites.
    Question is how far they are now.

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    Re: Russian Missile Early-Warning Satellites

    Post  kvs on Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:08 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Found what you were looking for:

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/55477/

    although, topology in 180nm rather than 90nm.  As for 90nm production:

    http://www.angstrem.ru/manufacture/centr-mikroelektroniki
    http://www.angstrem-t.com/technology/90/

    elvees multicore:
    http://multicore.ru
    http://multicore.ru/index.php?id=1360&utm_source=b1288pl1u&utm_medium=top&utm_campaign=banner

    Module
    http://www.module.ru/catalog/space/

    This is old stuff.

    Seems like it is good for nuclear warheads / simple satelite control systems.

    The interesting is radhard big CCDs,high speed CCD interfaces, memorys,NVrams, flahs rams, poer transistors and high speed commuiaction circuits.


    For example an early warning sateliet they need radhard cooled infra red sensors, high speed data and radio circuits, from the new 90/65nm plant.


    I was involved with occultation instrument development in Canada. Please don't prance around making it like Russia cannot
    design CCDs for space based systems and yapping about "old" stuff. It is physically impossible to rad harden dense IC components.
    All that one can hope for is noise post processing. At least with RAM one can build in some bit error control. With a CCD you cannot
    remove the noise in hardware.

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