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    Iran's Electronic Warfare and Radar equipment

    Post  Russian Patriot on Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:06 pm

    Iran’s radars can detect UAVs - commander




       

    Iran's national defense system has been equipped with advanced radars capable of detecting unmanned aerial vehicles, a senior military commander said on Saturday.

    “No unauthorized unmanned aircraft now dares fly over the Islamic Republic of Iran,” Brigadier General Farzad Esmaili said, according to Press TV.

    Iran’s Air Defense Forces are ready to destroy any unmanned aircraft in the country's air space, he said.

    Esmaili announced last month air defense specialists had designed a space radar capable detecting and tracking cruise missiles, low-flying aircraft and objects located at a distance of several thousands kilometers.

    http://www.en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20111008/167499056.html

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    Post  lulldapull on Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:46 am

    Thank you uncle Putin for giving us the Avtobaza:
    Meet The Russian Avtobaza — Iran's Possible Drone Killer

    Robert Johnson|December 05, 2011|
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    Speculation
    is running rampant after Iran claimed to have shot down a US RQ-170
    surveillance drone Sunday, and while Tehran has yet to show proof, it
    appears their announcement coincides with the delivery of this piece of
    equipment.
    Stephen Trimble from Flight Global reports Russia delivered the Avtobaza ground-based electronic intelligence and jamming system to Iran six-weeks ago.
    While
    most weapons deliveries to Iran are blocked, a jamming system like the
    Avtobaza is allowed because it's a passively defensive machine "designed
    to jam side-looking and fire control radars on aircraft and manipulate
    the guidance and control systems of incoming enemy missiles."
    Possibly
    what NATO regulators didn't plan on was the jammer's potential as a
    communications link allowing UAVs to be controlled remotely.
    Whether that's how it was used Sunday is another matter.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:15 am

    Well pretty much any UAV is vulnerable to this sort of attack... it is something largely ignored in the west because they are so in love with the idea of being able to bomb without risk they tend to forget that computer control planes are vulnerable to hacking and getting stolen.

    Amusing considering US movies like Firefox or their version of Red October, where advanced Soviet systems are stolen...
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    Iran used russian Jammers to hijack US RQ-170 Drone

    Post  ahmedfire on Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:14 pm

    When iranian TV shows the drone,there was no damage ,it was with agood case ,

    Read this

    Russian Avtobaza truck–mounted jammers for Iran

    Obama: Hey Iran, Can We Get Our Drone Back?

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    Post  ahmedfire on Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:29 pm

    The man-in-the-middle" attack ?
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:36 pm

    Interesting.

    This is a high altitude stealth drone, so it will likely be made of stealthy materials, and be fitted with long range high resolution cameras, high speed datalinks, and of course a very fuel efficient jet engine... all of which would be very interesting to the Russians and Iranians.

    If that system was used I would assume they simply intercepted commands travelling to it via datalink, and emulated them to get it to land.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:52 am

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    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:54 am

    GarryB wrote:Interesting.

    This is a high altitude stealth drone, so it will likely be made of stealthy materials, and be fitted with long range high resolution cameras, high speed datalinks, and of course a very fuel efficient jet engine... all of which would be very interesting to the Russians and Iranians.

    If that system was used I would assume they simply intercepted commands travelling to it via datalink, and emulated them to get it to land.

    Experts talked about GPS hacking,but

    These kind of drones are equipped with terrain recognition navigation systems, which can't be fooled by a fake gps signal!!
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    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:00 am


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    Post  lulldapull on Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:28 am

    Ahmedfire, what else do you think caused Iran to intercept the drone intact?.......

    Do you believe the ALCIAda line on this like the Saudi's? who think a miracle from Allah caused this malfunction and allowed Iran to intercept this drone?

    And while we are at it, what do you think of the zionist Egyptian military killing Egyptians in the street for the last 8 months now?

    Remember you made a big deal out of the Iranian Government crackdown on the CIA agent Moussavi and his thugs getting their ass handed to them? over a 2 week period?

    What do you have to say about your countrymen getting killed?

    What about Libya Ahmed?.......What do you think about the Arab Spring?......what are your thoughts on it now?

    Edited by GarryB to make it less disrespectful while keeping the questions intact

    Lulldapull, we have talked about language... in this case the issue is inflamatory language. Think of everyone here being your friend... think about what you type to make sure you don't hurt the feelings of your friends.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:57 am

    lulldapull wrote:Ahmedfire, what else do you think caused Iran to intercept the drone intact?.......

    Do you believe the ALCIAda line on this like the Saudi's? who think a miracle from Allah caused this malfunction and allowed Iran to intercept this drone?

    And while we are at it, what do you think of the zionist Egyptian military killing Egyptians like stray dogs in the street for the last 8 months now?

    Remember you made a big deal out of the Iranian Government crackdown on the CIA agent Moussavi and his thugs getting their ass handed to them? over a 2 week period?

    What do you have to say about your countrymen getting killed left and right now like dogs?

    What about Libya Ahmed?.......What do you think about the Arab Spring?......how do you like it? lol! lol! lol! lol!

    Most of these points are off topic ,but

    Egyptian army doesn't shoot egyptian citizens , if he want to do that,he would shoot them during the revolution like syria and libyan army,

    Yes there are people dead ,but this is not the army responsibility, some enemies are playing now in egypt specially Mossad and CIa ,we knew that ,we knew they didn't want egypt stand up again,

    If our army is shooting us ( as you say ), so we should make arevolution again Wink ,and egyptians refuse that , elections will be finished after 2 weeks ,then the constitution then the president ,

    After any revolution ,there is kind of mess and economic problems , U.S now trying to damage our economy but they will fail,you will see Rolling Eyes

    I hope libyans not let U.S and west to go through their own domestic affairs.


    This is real egyptian army




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    Post  lulldapull on Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:10 pm

    Ahmed........the only 'outside' power pulling the strings are the Zionists sitting in Washington and Tel Aviv.

    The truth is more like in this blog of how brutal the crackdown in Egypt is, and how shameful it is for sunni muslims living in these shit countries:

    http://www.news.com.au/world/egypts-shame-shock-video-shows-soldiers-beating-female-protesters-with-metal-poles/story-e6frfkyi-1226225384635

    P.S. I wouldn't have made an example out of your stupidity and foolishness, but since you have put down Iran....I'll drive my point across that what is going on in your country makes the 2 week duration protests in Teheran look like a fukking joke! You're as naive as they come by in goofy ass sunni countries. Also while we are at it......I bet you your ass that you are one of those that actually believe the delusional excuse being peddled around that some village idiot in Tunisia who got bitch slapped by some Ben Ali thugs caused the dumb ass Arab Spring? lol! lol!

    You believe it right? lol!
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    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:21 pm

    You can find numbers of videos like this all over the world , but if you can see the whole picture you will find that this female with 40 other citizen were closing the prime ministry office preventing him from doing his work for 20 day !! if that happened in U.S what will the police do ? ,so nice dreams with your video ,

    Rest of points are sh!!t and off topic,

    I hope for you lulldapull to recover from your syndrome " hating arab and muslims " respekt ,

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    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:27 pm


    lulldapull you are insulting me once after once , i demand moderators to do something here,, if not i'll leave that forum coz i can't stand all these insults..

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    Post  lulldapull on Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:37 pm

    Ahmedfire, if you didn't hate Iran I wouldn't have done this to you. Wink ......but you are a typical sunni who hates Iran like the Saudi Al-CIAda.

    You like Al-CIAda and you like Saudi cowards, and you probably like the CIA and the Zionists killing your people like in the street, while you live in your make believe world of teenage 'Arab spring' and believe anything that CNN and BBC peddles to you. lol! lol! lol!

    ahmedfire wrote:
    lulldapull you are insulting me once after once , i demand moderators to do something here,, if not i'll leave that forum coz i can't stand all these insults..

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:55 pm

    Ahmedfire, if you didn't hate Iran I wouldn't have done this to you. Wink ......but you are a typical sunni who hates Iran like the Saudi Al-CIAda.

    Ahmedfire is a member of this forum and is entitled to his own views and opinions. There is no such thing as a typical anything... generalisations can not be applied to individuals... if you don't believe me then tell me... this typical Sunni... are they male or female?

    You like Al-CIAda and you like Saudi cowards, and you probably like the CIA and the Zionists killing your people like in the street, while you live in your make believe world of teenage 'Arab spring' and believe anything that CNN and BBC peddles to you.

    He can like anyone he wants to like. Which is not to say you are right or wrong.
    I don't think much of the CIA or the Zionists, but even I find some of your posts offensive... and a little bit of a stretch... if the Zionists and CIA were that all powerful I would think Israel would be a land of milk and honey by now... they can certainly agitate and influence and they will for their own purposes and no one elses, but I think you finding them the root of all evil... well it makes you appear paranoid.

    Of course just because you are paranoid does not mean the whole world is out to get you.

    Stop making this personal, if you want to discuss matters with Ahmedfire then dramatically tone down your language, or you will find yourself getting a holiday from this forum.


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    Post  lulldapull on Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:03 pm

    Nothing that I say is a stretch Garry........the truth is out on the Arab Spring. The joke is on Ahmedfire, and his countrymen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P1eu7F7m0nI#t=0s

    lol!

    GarryB wrote:
    Ahmedfire, if you didn't hate Iran I wouldn't have done this to you. Wink ......but you are a typical sunni who hates Iran like the Saudi Al-CIAda.

    Ahmedfire is a member of this forum and is entitled to his own views and opinions. There is no such thing as a typical anything... generalisations can not be applied to individuals... if you don't believe me then tell me... this typical Sunni... are they male or female?

    You like Al-CIAda and you like Saudi cowards, and you probably like the CIA and the Zionists killing your people like in the street, while you live in your make believe world of teenage 'Arab spring' and believe anything that CNN and BBC peddles to you.

    He can like anyone he wants to like. Which is not to say you are right or wrong.
    I don't think much of the CIA or the Zionists, but even I find some of your posts offensive... and a little bit of a stretch... if the Zionists and CIA were that all powerful I would think Israel would be a land of milk and honey by now... they can certainly agitate and influence and they will for their own purposes and no one elses, but I think you finding them the root of all evil... well it makes you appear paranoid.

    Of course just because you are paranoid does not mean the whole world is out to get you.

    Stop making this personal, if you want to discuss matters with Ahmedfire then dramatically tone down your language, or you will find yourself getting a holiday from this forum.


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    Post  lulldapull on Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:09 pm

    Garry should I stop here or should I post many many more absolutely disgusting video's of Egyptians and especially women getting brutalised by the Egyptian military? What about the pictures of dead Egyptians after getting bludgeoned to death by the baton wielding Egyptian army thugs?

    May be I should start a new topic. Rolling Eyes
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:12 pm

    Lulldapull, you could rephrase quite a few things you have said in a way to make them less offensive, while still getting your point across.

    It is a question of being civil and self control... I am sure you can manage both.

    Ahmed, thank you for not over reacting to some of the terms used.

    I find your answers interesting as the local media seem to show a general dissatisfaction in Egypt over the way the military are handling things... yes I know they are biased and have an agenda... but it is clear from their angle that they seem to think and are showing by pretending Egyptians are thinking that the current military regime is just Mubaraks regime with a different leader in charge.

    If, as you say, all things are sorted, then this suggests that the "west"... or the people who control the western media... which amounts to the same thing, is not yet happy with the result and the people they want to see in power have not made it there yet.

    Would that be a fair assessment?

    Who do you think the west might prefer to see in power there?
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:17 pm

    Sorry, the above post has not appeared in order and should be read before the post I posted above.

    Garry should I stop here or should I post many many more absolutely disgusting video's of Egyptians and especially women getting brutalised by the Egyptian military? What about the pictures of dead Egyptians after getting bludgeoned to death by the baton wielding Egyptian army thugs?

    First of all this topic is:
    Iran used russian Jammers to hijack U.S " RQ-170 " Drone !

    The relevant places to post such things (with warnings if the content is of a graphic nature) would be in a separate thread.

    If you want to discuss the violence in relation to violence in Iran then there was a thread for that, however be very careful about your use of language.

    You can make points without being offensive, and discuss without getting personal.

    When you signed up to this forum you agreed to follow the rules, so perhaps rereading those rules now might be a good idea too.

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    Post  lulldapull on Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:25 pm

    That RT video along with thousands of others on the net from so many big names from alternative news sites regarding the Arab Spring are damning evidence to say the least. It's a real shame.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:46 pm

    It is a tragedy, and extremists on all sides will use it to their own ends that in the end will likely benefit no one.

    Returning to topic however...

    A UAV is not like a plane that flys around all the time on autopilot.
    In many ways it is like a webpage, in that you can write a whole lot of scripts to cater to all sorts of situations, including things like when a target of interest is spotted instead of continuing following a set of waypoints, you can send a command to the UAV to make it start to fly in large circles around an area to orbit an object of interest so you can keep an eye on something.

    Or if an enemy aircraft is spotted you might command the UAV to descend and escape.

    At the end of the mission you might command the UAV to land, or you might land it manually.

    The point is that the UAV is shown on top of material the covers its base, which suggests to me that they probably hacked into its command system and commanded it to land. This possibly resulted in damage to the underside of the UAV, which they are trying to hide.

    Or they have removed optics and cameras and any under body radar antennas for study and they are concealing the absence of these items while they are being studied.

    Being such a long range system they probably intercepted flight commands that were sent via satellite and used that information to take control once it was in Iranian airspace.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:31 am

    GarryB wrote:Lulldapull, you could rephrase quite a few things you have said in a way to make them less offensive, while still getting your point across.

    It is a question of being civil and self control... I am sure you can manage both.

    Ahmed, thank you for not over reacting to some of the terms used.

    I find your answers interesting as the local media seem to show a general dissatisfaction in Egypt over the way the military are handling things... yes I know they are biased and have an agenda... but it is clear from their angle that they seem to think and are showing by pretending Egyptians are thinking that the current military regime is just Mubaraks regime with a different leader in charge.

    If, as you say, all things are sorted, then this suggests that the "west"... or the people who control the western media... which amounts to the same thing, is not yet happy with the result and the people they want to see in power have not made it there yet.

    Would that be a fair assessment?

    Who do you think the west might prefer to see in power there?


    Seems they want asecular party to be in power, aperson like Mohamed Elbaradei will be enough , U.S told egyptian army leader ( Mohamed Hussein Tantawi) to put Elbaradei as aprime minister but Tantawi refused , and now U.S use the human rights to press on the military but with no result, they are using egyptian guys who took trainings in foreign countries like serbia and europe to make disturbances here and Incitement against army , they want asecond revolution in 25/1/2012 against army , Mossad and CIA want to see real blood between egyptians each other , if that not happened ,at least they want asecular president not like Mubarak coz Mubarak didn't comfort them, he refused many things that they want to do in this region like

    1: They want Nuclear Umbrella between egypt, israel,saudi and jordan against Iran but Mubarak is the only one who refused .

    2: Mubarak refused many times any U.S military bases in Egypt .

    3:Egypt co-operate with North Korea in Ballistic missiles projects , egyptian intelligence was resposible for giving N.K some sensitive technology from europe , North koreans used reverse engineering and give the technology to Egypt .

    Egypt's Missile Efforts Succeed with Help from North Korea


    4: Mubarak refused to make the army as U.S Tool against iran ,

    5: U.S detects that egyptian army has the largest number of violations ,They said that egyptian defense officials allegedly let a Chinese military delegation examine U.S.-made F-16s and related technical facilities

    http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Egypt-to-Spend-32B-in-Updating-F-16CD-Fleet-05860/


    6: WE refused to sign CISOMA

    Egypt would have to sign a Communications, Interoperability, and Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA), something Egyptian defense officials have refused to do for over a decade, arguing that the resulting U.S. inspection requirements amount to an infringement on national sovereignty. Such concerns, however, have not kept the countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council from signing the agreement, which raises the likelihood that some other reason underlies Egypt's decision


    There are more situations ,but i think those are enough,


    They want aman who do that , they want anew military leaders who don't refuse things like these, they give us amilitary aid but they can't get their goals Wink ,

    They threaten from 2 days to stop the military aid because egyptian authorities start to investigate with human rights movements to kneW from where it's finance come ( already from U.S Exclamation ) But Tantawi reply and said that egypt is only for egyptians !,So we don't care about that U.S aid , they are the side who will lose alot if they stop it and that explain why they didn't cut it after all these situations ,

    I hate that movements U.S using Exclamation



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    Post  ahmedfire on Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:59 am

    GarryB wrote:It is a tragedy, and extremists on all sides will use it to their own ends that in the end will likely benefit no one.

    Returning to topic however...

    A UAV is not like a plane that flys around all the time on autopilot.
    In many ways it is like a webpage, in that you can write a whole lot of scripts to cater to all sorts of situations, including things like when a target of interest is spotted instead of continuing following a set of waypoints, you can send a command to the UAV to make it start to fly in large circles around an area to orbit an object of interest so you can keep an eye on something.

    Or if an enemy aircraft is spotted you might command the UAV to descend and escape.

    At the end of the mission you might command the UAV to land, or you might land it manually.

    The point is that the UAV is shown on top of material the covers its base, which suggests to me that they probably hacked into its command system and commanded it to land. This possibly resulted in damage to the underside of the UAV, which they are trying to hide.

    Or they have removed optics and cameras and any under body radar antennas for study and they are concealing the absence of these items while they are being studied.

    Being such a long range system they probably intercepted flight commands that were sent via satellite and used that information to take control once it was in Iranian airspace.

    I think they first used powerful jamming signal to cut any signal to or from the UAV specially the GPS P(Y) code that is highly encrypted ,then they start to force the GPS reciver to recieve a C/A code and give the new Coordinates using satellites , but

    If they hack the GPS signal, why the terrain recognition navigation systems didn't work ?!

    Man-in-the-middle attack

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:54 am

    U.S told egyptian army leader ( Mohamed Hussein Tantawi) to put Elbaradei as aprime minister but Tantawi refused

    Glad to hear it.

    More countries in the world need leaders that are strong enough to not bow to the US and to make decisions based on what is best for their own country rather than what is best for the US.

    When the propaganda war continued against Egypt I suspected as much.

    They don't even care that leaders of two countries in the EU were not only not elected but are in power because they probably had something to do with dragging those countries into monetary union in the first place.

    I am surprised they don't burst into flames when they talk about democracy...

    I think they first used powerful jamming signal to cut any signal to or from the UAV specially the GPS P(Y) code that is highly encrypted ,then they start to force the GPS reciver to recieve a C/A code and give the new Coordinates using satellites , but

    If they hack the GPS signal, why the terrain recognition navigation systems didn't work ?!

    You are missing the point... this is a stupid unmanned drone... they don't need to fool it into thinking it is somewhere else, they just need to jam the datalink that transmits instructions to it and transmit their own instruction to land to it... then jam all transmissions to it till it lands/crashes.

    If you couldn't command it to land at any time then imagine if the GPS receiver failed and it is flying over the vast featureless Steppe, or open ocean where there is no distinctive terrain it could possibly recognise. It wouldn't know where it is and the longer it flew the more lost it would become.

    You always need to be able to make it land and that is pretty much all they did.

    Obviously a clear problem with unmanned aerial vehicles.

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