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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  wilhelm on Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:38 pm

    It's not "American junk military tech" and it isn't "stealth tech".

    It is Australian. Built in Tasmania.
    It is basically a civilian wave-piercing catamaran design built to civilian standards.

    It was leased by the US to study and test as part of their Expeditionary Fast Transport programme.
    The US then built a similar design called the Spearhead Class for their needs, built in the US by the Australian Austal company.

    The Swift is basically a high speed civilian ferry built out of aluminium. It's little better than a paper bag when it comes to resisting an anti-ship missile.

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    Post  eehnie on Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:36 pm

    wilhelm wrote:It's not "American junk military tech" and it isn't "stealth tech".

    It is Australian. Built in Tasmania.
    It is basically a civilian wave-piercing catamaran design built to civilian standards.

    It was leased by the US to study and test as part of their  Expeditionary Fast Transport programme.
    The US then built a similar design called the Spearhead Class for their needs, built in the US by the Australian Austal company.

    The Swift is basically a high speed civilian ferry built out of aluminium. It's little better than a paper bag when it comes to resisting an anti-ship missile.

    lol, poor bid of defending the "superior" US technology.

    http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=11055

    NORFOLK, Va. (NNS) -- Dec. 20, HSV 2 Swift, a revolutionary catamaran leased by the Navy as a mine countermeasures and sea basing test platform, will be making a stop at Naval Amphibious Base Little Creek before moving on to the nation's capital and ultimately, its homeport of Naval Station Ingleside, Texas.

    The ship, constructed by Australian shipbuilder Incat/Bollinger, is the second catamaran the Navy has leased to test new technologies and concepts associated with the Chief of Naval Operations' Seapower 21 plan.

    It is a wave-piercing, aluminum-hulled, commercial catamaran with military enhancements, such as a helicopter flight deck, small boat and unmanned vehicle launch and recovery capability, and an enhanced communications suite. It features a new, modular design, which will allow the ship to be refitted to support any mission without requiring long shipyard periods.

    ...

    The first ship of this class to be used by the Navy, HSV 1 Joint Venture, proved its military mettle during Operation Iraqi Freedom as a forward staging platform for Marine Fleet Anti-Terrorism and SEAL (SEa, Air, Land) teams in the shallow waters of Umm Qasr, Iraq. The Navy hopes to build upon lessons learned from Swift and its predecessor, and eventually use the information to create a new class of Littoral Combat Ships.

    This was the tone of the news about this ship in the US.

    A ship of around 1700 tons at full displacement.

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:49 pm

    Ship had no chance anyway. And as Wilhelm said it's not exactly some tip of the spear.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:59 am

    wilhelm wrote:.........

    The Swift is basically a high speed civilian ferry built out of aluminium. It's little better than a paper bag when it comes to resisting an anti-ship missile.

    Well these days every ship is paper bag when it comes to handling anti-ship missiles.

    Tech had nothing to do with it, aluminium vs missile. Missile wins every time.

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  George1 on Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:01 pm

    Former President of Yemen Ali Abdullah Saleh urged Houthi rebels to mobilize troops along the border with Saudi Arabia in response to a deadly airstrike on funeral, which he believes was conducted by the Saudi-led coalition, media reported on Sunday.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20161009/1046161702/yemen-saleh-calls-houthis-mobilize-saudi.html


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    Post  Isos on Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:10 pm

    https://news.usni.org/2016/10/11/uss-mason-fired-3-missiles-to-defend-from-yemen-cruise-missiles-attack


    Probably new Attack on aegis cruiser. Houtis said they didn't. SM-2 missile lunched against two anti ship missile and failed, they use decoy and jamming against the missiles.

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:35 pm

    Isos wrote:https://news.usni.org/2016/10/11/uss-mason-fired-3-missiles-to-defend-from-yemen-cruise-missiles-attack


    Probably new Attack on aegis cruiser. Houtis said they didn't. SM-2 missile lunched against two anti ship missile and failed, they use decoy and jamming against the missiles.

    What the hell happened, did the missile fail or did the decoys work?

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    Post  Isos on Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:50 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Isos wrote:https://news.usni.org/2016/10/11/uss-mason-fired-3-missiles-to-defend-from-yemen-cruise-missiles-attack


    Probably new Attack on aegis cruiser. Houtis said they didn't. SM-2 missile lunched against two anti ship missile and failed, they use decoy and jamming against the missiles.

    What the hell happened, did the missile fail or did the decoys work?

    Houtis are denying the attack, it may be a lie from US to stop talking about the airstrike. But it seem to be true. The missiles were not acting like normal C-802 as there was no separation of the booster. First they didn't say they tried to engage them but in this article it says they engaged with 2 SM2 + 1 small anti air missile. At the end they needed to activate jammers. So the SM2 probably failed.

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  Isos on Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:02 pm

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/official-yemen-rebels-fire-missiles-us-ship-miss-42755824
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/10/12/more-missiles-fired-from-rebel-held-territory-in-yemen-at-u-s-navy-ships/

    Second attack with again 2 missiles falling near the same US cruiser. Seems like US try to provoke a war between them and Houthis in order to attack them on the ground.

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    Post  Vann7 on Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:31 am



    Probably ,, ill give it.. about 10% of probabiblity.

    That this is an attempt of United States.. a false flag incident ,of missiles that never were launched, to Deviate the Americans attention from Clinton Scandals to wikileaks.
    Or perhaps 5% as incident they artificially creating to justify an honorable exit from the Syrian war. Because "they busy fighting in yemen"..

    Or it could be a way to create artificial nationwide unity (50%) ,behind the government.
    if a warship attacked by any rebels in middle east.

    So Obama administration and US military desperately needs public support. Before
    any major conflict they provoke with Russia. and this incident could be used to create Public Support for the Pentagon and Obama gov..if US warship attacked by rebels.

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    Post  MonkeymodelBananaRepublic on Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:30 am

    I have been itching to ask this question - there are heaps of photos of t55, t62 fighting in yemen. Ive even seen photos of su-100 and t34-85. But where are their darn t80s, dont they have around 100 or so?

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  OminousSpudd on Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:44 am

    US hits multiple Yemeni radar sites: https://www.rt.com/usa/362582-yemen-radar-sites-airstrikes/

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:05 am

    Yemen’s ex-president Saleh asks Russia for help to resolve ongoing domestic conflict

    More:
    http://tass.com/world/906137


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:57 am

    George1 wrote:Yemen’s ex-president Saleh asks Russia for help to resolve ongoing domestic conflict

    More:
    http://tass.com/world/906137

    Good move some 32xKh35 in 1 Bal battery and S-300V4 make Yemen no flight zone bor war criminals Smile

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:20 pm

    MonkeymodelBananaRepublic wrote:I have been itching to ask this question - there are heaps of photos of t55, t62 fighting in yemen. Ive even seen photos of su-100 and t34-85. But where are their darn t80s, dont they have around 100 or so?

    They had about 20 in Running order and they're all stuck or bombed, most of the parts they can source from Iran are older T-type.
    Also in this area the best choice is still Technicals.

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    Post  MonkeymodelBananaRepublic on Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:42 pm

    Thanks for the quick reply Smile

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  OminousSpudd on Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:29 pm

    Any insider info on that alleged attack on the USS Mason? Did it actually happen, or was it a false-flagged revenge attack for the sinking of the Swift?

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:25 am

    Washington reserves the right to strike targets in Yemen whenever “necessary and appropriate”. - Obama
    https://www.rt.com/usa/362839-obama-yemen-necessary-self-defense/

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:10 am

    Hahahaha.. yeah... as that article points out the US has been murdering people in Yemen via drone strike for most of this decade and it has been arming the Saudis to bomb Yemen too.

    Of course attacking radars on land in Yemen is purely self defence... they were just minding their own business thousands of kms from their own waters...

    I say give the Houthies anything they want... Metis-M1s and Kornet-EMs for enemy armour, Yakhonts for coastal defence and a Russian Air base with Su-35s to create a no fly zone over all of Yemen...


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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  Erk on Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:58 am

    So, did the Houthies really shoot at US warships, or are we looking at false flag so the US can enter they war?

    Any pictures of the damage to the US warships?


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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:13 am

    Erk wrote:So, did the Houthies really shoot at US warships, or are we looking at false flag so the US can enter they war?

    Any pictures of the damage to the US warships?

    I'm going with false flag. There is no video evidence of the alleged attacks, and the official story is that they fell short of the ship anyway, which conveniently means there would probably be no evidence. Just the US killing more people in 3rd world countries, nothing to see here. Saudi probably requested they take out those radar sites so as to save them any further embarrassments off of the Yemeni coast.

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:59 pm

    The story is evolving, my highlight.

    The Pentagon declined to say on Monday whether the USS Mason destroyer was targeted by multiple inbound missiles fired from Yemen on Saturday, as initially thought, saying a review was under way to determine what happened. Any determination that the USS Mason guided-missile destroyer was targeted on Saturday could have military repercussions, since the United States has threatened to retaliate again should its ships come under fire from territory in Yemen controlled by Iran-aligned Houthi fighters.

    The United States carried out cruise missile strikes against radar sites in Yemen on Thursday after two confirmed attempts last week to hit the USS Mason with coastal cruise missiles.

    "We are still assessing the situation. There are still some aspects to this that we are trying to clarify for ourselves given the threat - the potential threat - to our people," Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook told a news briefing.

    Admiral John Richardson, the chief of naval operations, disclosed the latest incident during an event in Baltimore on Saturday, saying the USS Mason "once again appears to have come under attack in the Red Sea."

    Cook noted that the crew aboard the USS Mason detected what appeared to be a missile threat and responded appropriately.

    U.S. officials cautioned, however, that details from the incident were still under review. It was unclear how soon a final determination might be made about how many, if any, missiles were actually fired at the USS Mason.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-usa-idUSKBN12H284

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:49 am

    Yemeni President Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi agreed to conclude a 72-hour truce with the Houthi rebels, local media reported Sunday, citing Yemeni Foreign Minister Abdel Malek Mekhlafi.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – According to the foreign minister of Yemen, Hadi also considered the possibility to extend the ceasefire, the Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper posted on its Twitter account.

    On October 16, the Saudi Arabian, UAE, UK and US foreign ministers called on parties to the Yemen conflict to end violence tackle the humanitarian situation in the country in a joint statement.

    Earlier in the day, Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Adel Jubeir confirmed that Riyadh stands for cessation of hostilities.

    The situation in Yemen remains extremely unstable since the start of a military conflict between the government headed by Yemeni President Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi and Houthi rebels, which are the country’s main opposition force, in 2014. In April, the warring sides announced a nationwide ceasefire, however it failed to hold. Besides, the plans of UN special envoy for Yemen to bring all actors to the negotiating table after this process was halted in Kuwait in August have collapsed.


    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201610181046434367-yemeni-president-ceasefire-houthis/

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    Re: Yemeni Conflict: News #2

    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:39 pm

    It may already be posted, but read this, this morning.

    Iran: S. Arabia Wants US Complicity to Escape Yemen Quagmire

    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950727001091

    TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Bahram Qassemi said Saudi Arabia aims to bring the US into complicity in its crimes in Yemen in a bid to get rid of the quagmire of the war through rising opportunities.

    "The claim raised about Yemen's missile fire at the US warship can be a plot by the Saudis and certain circles in the US to get Washington involved in direct campaign against Ansarullah and the Yemeni people," Qassemi said on Tuesday.

    "Saudi Arabia aims to engage others in its problems by increasing tensions in the region to find an escape route for itself," he added.

    "I advise the US statesmen to take precise look at issues and pursue a realistic view and beware of the traps laid for them by others in the region, and make use of the experiences of the three past decades in Iraq, Syria and other countries," Qassemi said.

    Earlier this month, the US claimed that Yemeni troops have targeted one of its warships in the Red Sea with two missiles but the Yemeni army and popular forces categorically rejected the allegations.

    "The Yemeni naval forces have had no role in targeting the US warship in the coastal waters of Yemen's Hudayda province," the Arabic-language al-Mayadeen news channel quoted a Yemeni army source as saying.

    The source reiterated that the reports alleging that the Yemeni missiles targeted ships off the Yemeni coast are baseless.

    He said such allegations are aimed at covering up Saudi Arabia's airstrikes on a funeral procession in Sana'a which resulted in the death and injury of hundreds of civilians.


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