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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:17 am

    ultron wrote:Irrepairable. Ukraine will never join NATO because of disputed territory Crimea. US military bases will pop up all over Ukraine. Ukrainians will be brainwashed by Ukrainian state media to hate Russians forever. In about 100 years no Ukrainian will be able to speak Russian. Anyone who speaks Russian in Ukraine will be beaten to a bloody pulp by Right Sector.

    It'll be like between North Korea and South Korea, only a lot worse.

    Maybe. And the Ukrainians will just enjoy living like the North Koreans, as their economy is probably worst now than what North Koreans are.
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    Post  auslander on Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:40 am

    ultron wrote:Irrepairable. Ukraine will never join NATO because of disputed territory Crimea. US military bases will pop up all over Ukraine. Ukrainians will be brainwashed by Ukrainian state media to hate Russians forever. In about 100 years no Ukrainian will be able to speak Russian. Anyone who speaks Russian in Ukraine will be beaten to a bloody pulp by Right Sector.

    It'll be like between North Korea and South Korea, only a lot worse.

    Welcome back, FV, and welcome to my ignore list. Your pontifications rank right up there with Yahoo News comments.
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    Post  Project Canada on Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:49 pm

    ultron wrote:Irrepairable. Ukraine will never join NATO because of disputed territory Crimea. US military bases will pop up all over Ukraine. Ukrainians will be brainwashed by Ukrainian state media to hate Russians forever. In about 100 years no Ukrainian will be able to speak Russian. Anyone who speaks Russian in Ukraine will be beaten to a bloody pulp by Right Sector.

    It'll be like between North Korea and South Korea, only a lot worse.

    lol what if in about 100 years no Ukrainian will be left in Ukraine but only ethnic Russian? Very Happy
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    Post  Rodinazombie on Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:18 pm

    Project Canada wrote:
    ultron wrote:Irrepairable. Ukraine will never join NATO because of disputed territory Crimea. US military bases will pop up all over Ukraine. Ukrainians will be brainwashed by Ukrainian state media to hate Russians forever. In about 100 years no Ukrainian will be able to speak Russian. Anyone who speaks Russian in Ukraine will be beaten to a bloody pulp by Right Sector.

    It'll be like between North Korea and South Korea, only a lot worse.

    lol what if in about 100 years no Ukrainian will be left in Ukraine but only ethnic Russian? Very Happy

    Doubt it, history of ukrainian civilisation lasts at least 40,000 years, so they have survived the worst episodes in history and will survive this russian invasion too.
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    Post  Werewolf on Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:10 pm

    Project Canada wrote:
    ultron wrote:Irrepairable. Ukraine will never join NATO because of disputed territory Crimea. US military bases will pop up all over Ukraine. Ukrainians will be brainwashed by Ukrainian state media to hate Russians forever. In about 100 years no Ukrainian will be able to speak Russian. Anyone who speaks Russian in Ukraine will be beaten to a bloody pulp by Right Sector.

    It'll be like between North Korea and South Korea, only a lot worse.

    lol what if in about 100 years no Ukrainian will be left in Ukraine but only ethnic Russian? Very Happy

    There are no such thing as ethnic ukrainian, they are all entirely russians.
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    Post  Rodinazombie on Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:21 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Project Canada wrote:
    ultron wrote:Irrepairable. Ukraine will never join NATO because of disputed territory Crimea. US military bases will pop up all over Ukraine. Ukrainians will be brainwashed by Ukrainian state media to hate Russians forever. In about 100 years no Ukrainian will be able to speak Russian. Anyone who speaks Russian in Ukraine will be beaten to a bloody pulp by Right Sector.

    It'll be like between North Korea and South Korea, only a lot worse.

    lol what if in about 100 years no Ukrainian will be left in Ukraine but only ethnic Russian? Very Happy

    There are no such thing as ethnic ukrainian, they are all entirely russians.

    Genetically they will be the same yes, and historically their ethnicity is russian too for the most part, but i do feel they have been separated from russia in a way that the ones who want to be ethnically 'ukrainian', have the choice to be. The mistake people make in the west is that they think russians and ukrainians are totally different either side of the border.



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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:27 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Project Canada wrote:
    ultron wrote:Irrepairable. Ukraine will never join NATO because of disputed territory Crimea. US military bases will pop up all over Ukraine. Ukrainians will be brainwashed by Ukrainian state media to hate Russians forever. In about 100 years no Ukrainian will be able to speak Russian. Anyone who speaks Russian in Ukraine will be beaten to a bloody pulp by Right Sector.

    It'll be like between North Korea and South Korea, only a lot worse.

    lol what if in about 100 years no Ukrainian will be left in Ukraine but only ethnic Russian? Very Happy

    There are no such thing as ethnic ukrainian, they are all entirely russians.

    Genetically they will be the same yes, and historically their ethnicity is russian too for the most part, but i do feel they have been separated from russia in a way that the ones who want to be ethnically 'ukrainian', have the choice to be. The mistake people make in the west is that they think russians and ukrainians are totally different either side of the border.




    The whole "Ukraine" myth was created by the German general staff of WW1, and Ukraine's main purpose was to be a logistics hub for the Germans.
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    Post  kvs on Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:51 am

    No, Ukrainians are not all just Russians. There is a lot of Polish, Slovak, Hungarian, Romanian and even Spanish (believe it or not)
    blood in the western part. Back in 1000 AD there was exactly zero difference, but the last 1015 years have resulted in a rather
    noticeable bifurcation. However, the south and east of Soviet-created Ukraine is actually ethnically Russian and should not be
    treated as part of Ukraine. This region includes very old Greek communities and even Serbs who settled in the east over a
    century ago.

    There is no Ukraine there, there.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:34 am

    https://topwar.ru/149683-raschlenenie-ukrainy-konsorciuma-s-limitrofami-ne-poluchitsja.html

    I mostly agree with him; at best, only small areas in W. & S. parts could be taken by Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, & Romania w/o endangering Russia's security.
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:12 am

    Ukraine withdraws from Eurovision 2019 song contest http://tass.com/society/1046727

    KIEV, February 27. /TASS/. Ukraine will not participate in the Eurovision 2019 international song contest, the press service of the National Public Broadcasting Company of Ukraine informed on Wednesday.

    "The National Public Broadcasting Company of Ukraine withdraws from the Eurovision 2019 international song contest," the message informs.

    According to the company’s board member Alexandra Koltsova, "due to excessive politicization of the national selection" the broadcasters decided to withdraw from the Eurovision 2019 song contest.

    Earlier, all three finalists of the Ukrainian national selection for Eurovision 2019 refused to participate in the contest. Members of the group Anna Maria publicly refused to render the events in Crimea in 2014 as "Russian aggression". Various Ukrainian officials also criticized another band that had reached the final, Yuko, whose member, Yulia Yurina, is a Russian citizen.

    When Ukrainian singer Maruv came in first in the national selection, Ukrainian politicians urged her to cancel the tour planned in Russia. As a result, Maruv and the National Public Broadcasting Company failed to sign the contract that would allow her to take part in the contest. Other bands participating in the national selection, such as Freedom Jazz, Kazka, and Brunettes Shoot Blondes, refused to sign a deal with Ukrainian broadcaster out of solidarity with other participants.

    What a joke!!  404istan doesn't recogise any limit to the depth of the hole they can dig for themselves..  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:45 pm

    kvs wrote:No, Ukrainians are not all just Russians.   There is a lot of Polish, Slovak, Hungarian, Romanian and even Spanish (believe it or not)
    blood in the western part.   Back in 1000 AD there was exactly zero difference, but the last 1015 years have resulted in a rather
    noticeable bifurcation.   However, the south and east of Soviet-created Ukraine is actually ethnically Russian and should not be
    treated as part of Ukraine.  This region includes very old Greek communities and even Serbs who settled in the east over a
    century ago.  

    There is no Ukraine there, there.



    And your claim on the Spaniards settling in the western Ukraine is based on what?

    As much as I know Polish history, I never heard or read anything about it. They had more than enough land to settle in the New World and elsewhere, why would they ever come to western Ukraine?

    I know that Vlachs (Romanians) settled in both Poland and Ukraine, and Hungarians used to live a long time ago in what is now Ukraine. I also read about the New Serbia.


    Perhaps you think that the surname Bandera sounds Spanish? Actually, the word bandera in the Polish language means "naval ensign" and I think that a Polish origin of this surname is much more likely than Spanish. You should be able to check this in any Polish-English dictionary.



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