PAK-FA, T-50: News #3

PapaDragon wrote:
Four engines on that thing and of course it is most interesting one that gets blocked from view.....

MOSCOW, December 30 - RIA Novosti. The Russian fifth-generation fighter PAK FA (T-50) can be equipped with is developing in the Russian radar, based on the use of radio-optical phased arrays (ROFAR), adviser of the first deputy general director of Concern "Radio-electronic technology '( KRET, ROFAR software company, is a "Rostec") Vladimir Mikheev.

Photonic technology greatly expand the possibilities of communication and radar ─ their weight decreased by more than half, and the resolution will increase tenfold. Ultra-wideband signal ROFAR allows you to get virtually the TV picture in the radar range. Radiofotoniki technology, in particular, should open up new opportunities for improvement "smart skin" on Russian airplanes and helicopters of the latest generation.

"The output of our work on ROFAR will get a full list of aircraft - manned and unmanned - which we plan to offer equipped with radar-based radio-optical phased arrays. I think that the PAK FA will also be on this list and it will be given to specific proposals "- said Mikheyev reporters, adding that the final decision will take the Department of Defense.

The project ROFAR based KRET laboratory was established radiofotoniki. Concern has already begun to laboratory tests to create ROFAR. Designed for 4.5 years the work is on schedule, which was agreed with the Foundation for Advanced Studies. As reported in November, RIA Novosti deputy general director Igor KRET Nasenkov, the company intends to establish a full-scale sample of the future radar until 2018.

T-50 (PAK FA project) - Russia's fifth-generation aircraft equipped with a fundamentally new avionics, and promising radar with a phased antenna array. The first flight took place in 2010 in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, the first public demonstration of a fighter - in 2011 at the Aviation and Space Salon MAKS in Zhukovsky near Moscow.

KRET was established in 2009. The main directions of its activity - development and production of complex systems and avionics for civil and military aircraft, radar airborne, the state identification, electronic warfare systems, instrumentation for various applications, electrical connectors, connectors and cable assemblies. Among the developments KRET - a family of ground-based electronic warfare "Krasuha" aircraft systems group and individual protection "Khibiny", "Vitebsk" and "Arm-AB" mobile small-sized radar "harmony."

Radio optical phased arrays significantly extend the capabilities of modern communication and radar - their weight decreased by more than half, and the resolution will increase tenfold.

"ROFAR allow us to see the plane, located 500 kilometers away, as if we are standing 50 meters away from him at the airport, his portrait in the baseband. Moreover, if needed, this technology will look in the aircraft itself, to know what kind of people and Appliances are there, because the signal can pass any obstacles, even lead-meter wall, "- he said Mikheyev told reporters.

Isos wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:Ok, i was holding back on entering this dicussion becuase i wasn't to firmiliar with the agreements that Russia and India had signed, luckily our friend MAX was, here's what he wrote:

max steel wrote:Russia offers India new Pak-Fa deal

Yea, the thing is they didn't, apparently they never signed the final design contract, under which both sides were to contribute an initial $6 billion each.

That's the thing, they want the FGFA not so much the FA, but there in a rush so 50 is a good stopgap, until the FGFA is ready for production in 2020/21, and even Russia is predicting they'll have 55 FAs by 2020, so production wise there's no way that over a 100 aircrafts are gonna be produced before the FGFA is ready.
And how is more MKI's not good for Sukhoi??

Trust me Isos, there is no chance in Hell the U.S would go with the military option on Pakistan, Nukes do a good job at preventing that.

Introduction of the J-31 and also J-20 will happen around 2019/20, and that's for China, export of these aircrafts will come later, so overall India will be the First to receive 5th gen fighters.

I didn't know about the contract. I tought it was signed. Knowing that, it's even more curious to see Indian asking for something they didn"t pay

I was meaning selling Pak Fa is better than selling MKI. If they ask for more MKIs they will reduce orders for Pak Fa.

Well, that's not the subject but for Pakistan I wouldn't be sure like you are. Their nuclear potential isn't so powerful and can be counter. Their planes are not the best you can found and their navy is really nothing. At least they have BM and CM but not sure they could be a threat to AEGIS. But if USA stop helping them against talibans and others groupe they could really BECOME the new Afghanistan. And their relations with China and USA complicate the situation.

About the j-31/20, you are right but FGFA will come later because they have to start its conception and production and Russia will produce Pak Fa for RuAF first.

BTW, mack8 very nice image   Is it because of the angle of the picture why engines look a little too big for the plane or is it the case. Will the new ones have smaller size ? However I like their length, it more safety against Manpads

Isos wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

I only found out recently too.

The MKI is a good aircraft, but it can't replace a new 5th gen fighter.

The thing about Nukes is (regardless of Pakistan's conventional strength) that if one starts using them the others will also get trigger happy, and that is one of the things the U.S fears most.

Correct the Russian air-force get's first dibs, but even then the PAK-FA export will still go to India earlier.
So, the Nuclear deterrent

George1 wrote:will we have the 6th prototype in 2016?

max steel wrote:What is the difference between T-50 1,2,3,4 & 5R ?

Vann7 wrote:Looking good. +1

Finally Russia paying attention to the look of things ,the image of quality that their airforce should always project. Does anyone knows how many Pak-fa the Russian Airforce told ,or defense minister that are aiming to get in total? (and include the link with the info about what was told) not only 2020..but beyond that?

sepheronx wrote:I thought total build was 250?

franco wrote:

sepheronx wrote:I thought total build was 250?

Would be nice but 150 is what I heard. Maybe 250 included India?

sepheronx wrote:

franco wrote:

sepheronx wrote:I thought total build was 250?

Would be nice but 150 is what I heard. Maybe 250 included India?

No.  But I recall reading that they wanted total 250 aircraft for Ruaf.  But that isnt achievable right now or near future.  There needs to be an alternative.  Russia cant really afford all these types of aircrafts and still ha e a formidable force.  Either they get rid of Su-35 and Su-30 and Su-27 and such for Pak Fa or they will end up spending a fortune on maintenance.

Militarov wrote: Except for carrier airgroup i belive MiG is kinda dead...

Sunbeam wrote:

Militarov wrote: Except for carrier airgroup i belive MiG is kinda dead...

Don't they working on new interceptors?